Four way Scapular Medal Question

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Hi all. I was just enrolled in the brown scapular and I also had the 4 way metal scapular blessed on the same day. I wear both together and no longer will wear anything else around my neck. The prayers were so beautiful, very formal and moving.
I am going to purchase online from Benedictine monks a few St. Benedict medals for my children to put in their book bags, for our car, wallets, bedrooms…I wanted to wear one on the 4 way metal scapular I just received but it already had St. Benedict on it so I guess it will not be necessary to place another one on there but I wouldn’t mind because it feels like “extra” protection which I would like in my life right now for all of my family.
Would it be ok to do so, knowing it’s not necessary?
Thank you
 
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Thank you. I agree and look forward to receiving them. My four way scapular has it on there already would it be already to add another StBenedict medal on the necklace?
 
There would be nothing wrong with it, it’s not sinful or anything haha. But I’m not sure the power of the medals increase, wearing 12 Miraculous Medals vs 1 doesn’t change the effect. Receiving the Eucharist 5 times vs one doesn’t change the effect.

I would highly suggest putting St. Benedict Medals in the bathroom because some sinful things can happen in the bathroom/shower and also put the medals in bedrooms because sins can also happen there, impurity sins specifically in both locations. So good extra protection in those places would be 👍
 
Excuse me…

Does the power of a scapular come from it, or from the faith in it?

Just asking since people say that it’s not a talisman?
 
Does power come from relics and holy sites or the faith we have in them? I think the answer is our faith. But why do we have statues and stained glass windows in churches? Because they cultivate our faith in this realm. These medals do the same thing. THAT SAID, it is known that there are special graces given to those who say a rosary with a rosary, those who wear these medals and such. So while these aren’t magic stones (lol), there is something more than meets the eye. Perhaps you can explain what I’m trying to explain better?
 
I’m asking a genuine question, I’d like to know, so I’ll take a look in the Catechism first, see you in a mo.

Ok, can’t find a mention of scapulars but they are sacramentals which are sacred once blessed.

Perhaps @Vico could help? Or @Rob2
 
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I’m asking a genuine question, I’d like to know, so I’ll take a look in the Catechism first, see you in a mo.

Ok, can’t find a mention of scapulars but they are sacramentals which are sacred once blessed.

Perhaps @Vico could help? Or @Rob2
Baltimore Catechism
Q. 1052. {292} What is a sacramental?
A. A sacramental is anything set apart or blessed by the Church to excite good thoughts and to increase devotion, and through these movements of the heart to remit venial sin.

Q. 1058. Are prayers and ceremonies of the Church also Sacramentals?
A. Prayers and ceremonies of the Church are also Sacramentals because they excite good thoughts and increase devotion. Whatever the Church dedicates to a pious use or devotes to the worship of God may be called a Sacramental.
 
Thank you @Vico

I also found something which might help too, also saying that the sacramental is a sacred object once blessed but not a talisman which would be superstition basically. They are reminiscent then of holiness and an aid to piety. I think I have that correctly.
The Sign of the Scapular | Catholic Answers

It does make me wonder about the sign we put on our houses? We use blessed chalk and write the intials of the three magi over a doorway etc?
 
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So while these aren’t magic stones (lol), there is something more than meets the eye. Perhaps you can explain what I’m trying to explain better?
This does a great disservice to sacramentals in general and to those being mentioned in this thread specifically.

As far as the Scapular of Carmel, the scapular catechesis done by two friars who each sat on the General Council of their respective branches of the Carmelite family – the Ancient Observance [O. Carm.] and the Teresian Reform [OCD] – do a thorough treatment.

http://www.meditationsfromcarmel.com/content/scapular-catechesis

Medals, such as the Miraculous Medal or the Medal of Saint Benedict are very far removed from the concept of a magic amulet or a magic talisman. Such concepts are completely alien to the mind of the Church.

The matter is quite well explained in the Directory on Popular Piety that was promulgated by the relevant Vatican dicastery, The Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments
[205] The history of Marian piety also includes “devotion” to various scapulars, the most common of which is devotion to the Scapular of Our Lady of Mount Carmel. Its use is truly universal and, undoubtedly, its is one of those pious practices which the Council described as “recommended by the Magisterium throughout the centuries”

The Scapular of Mount Carmel is a reduced form of the religious habit of the Order of the Friars of the Blessed Virgin of Mount Carmel. Its use is very diffuse and often independent of the life and spirituality of the Carmelite family

The Scapular is an external sign of the filial relationship established between the Blessed Virgin Mary, Mother and Queen of Mount Carmel, and the faithful who entrust themselves totally to her protection, who have recourse to her maternal intercession, who are mindful of the primacy of the spiritual life and the need for prayer

The Scapular is imposed by a special rite of the Church which describes it as " a reminder that in Baptism we have been clothed in Christ, with the assistance of the Blessed Virgin Mary, solicitous for our conformation to the Word Incarnate, to the praise of the Trinity, we may come to our heavenly home wearing our nuptial garb"

The imposition of the Scapular should be celebrated with “the seriousness of its origins. It should not be improvised. The Scapular should be imposed following a period of preparation during which the faithful are made aware of the nature and ends of the association they are about to join and of the obligations they assume”
 
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[206] The faithful like to wear medals bearing effigies of the Blessed Virgin Mary. These are a witness of faith and a sign of veneration of the Holy Mother of God, as well as of trust in her maternal protection

The Church blesses such objects of Marian devotion in the belief that “they help to remind the faithful of the love of God, and to increase trust in the Blessed Virgin Mary”. The Church also points out that devotion to the Mother of Christ also requires “a coherent witness of life”

Among the various medals of the Blessed Virgin Mary, the most diffuse must be the “Miraculous Medal”. Its origins go back to the apparitions in 1830 of Our Lady to St. Catherine Labouré, a humble novice of the Daughters of Charity in Paris. The medal was struck in accordance with the instructions given by Our Lady and has been described as a “Marian microcosm” because of its extraordinary symbolism. It recalls the mystery of Redemption, the love of the Sacred Heart of Jesus and of the Sorrowful Heart of Mary. It signifies the mediatory role of the Blessed Virgin Mary, the mystery of the Church, the relationship between Heaven and earth, this life and eternal life.

St. Maximillian Kolbe (+ 1941) and the various movements associated with him, have been especially active in further popularizing the miraculous medal. In 1917 he adopted the miraculous medal as the badge of the “Pious Union of the Militia of the Immaculate Conception” which he founded in Rome while still a young religious of the Conventual Friars Minor.

Like all medals and objects of cult, the Miraculous Medal is never to be regarded as a talisman or lead to any form of blind credulity. The promise of Our Lady that “those who were the medal will receive great graces”, requires a humble and tenacious commitment to the Christian message, faithful and persevering prayer, and a good Christian life.
 
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Thank you Don Ruggero, with all respect to you, can you kindly answer my initial thread question directly as I am easily confused and a bit emotionally fragile at this time. Thank you and God bless.
 
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Thank you for the explanation, I could not explain it as it deserves to be explained. I was getting at medals that are blessed by priests carrying extra importance and they are sacramentals. The rosary for instance has 9 promises for those who pray it. I don’t really understand it myself but that was what I was trying to get at
 
I have a St Benedict medal myself, it’s not a magic thing to ward off evil.
Nor are scapulars.

I pray and ask for protection when I need it and I may pray to St Benedict and ask him to pray for me too on occasion.

The green scapular is a little different and may be worth reading about since it can help even a non believer apparently.
 
Thank you Don Ruggero, with all respect to you, can you kindly answer my initial thread question directly as I am easily confused and a bit emotionally fragile at this time. Thank you and God bless.
Personally, I would not counsel you to wear duplicates of the same sacramental as though wearing two medals of Saint Benedict would afford you more of his protection than one medal…the wearing of the medal is to honour the saint and it is Saint Benedict and the prayer of the Church that is protecting you. He is not more honored by wearing numerically more medals or larger medals, etc. The wearing of a medal is the expression of devotion and of piety and the assurance of the saint’s patronage and protection as well as the prayer of the Church.

If, for example, you are wearing a four way medal which has both the miraculous medal and the medal of Saint Benedict incorporated in it and you had the desire to wear another devotional medal…why not choose to wear a small crucifix or a medal of your patron saint instead of wearing a duplicate medal?

In receiving the scapular of Carmel, you have received an affiliation to the Carmelite family as a member of their confraternity – it is normal for Carmelites to wear a crucifix and that would be a further expression of your familial bonds to that Religious family.

The sacramentals have a wonderful theology at their foundation. The Carmelite scapular, for example, is a garment of particular significance given to the person by the Blessed Virgin to the person through the mediation of the Church. It is rich in symbolism…a mother making a garment for her child…a child wearing the garment of his or her mother. The love and protection that such an act symbolises.

It also has a specific significance in that it ties you in this case to the family and the spirituality of the Carmelites and the rich heritage that is theirs.

To wear the garment of the Blessed Mother is a privilege and, in turn, I am making an expression of my love and dedication by wearing it out of motivation of devotion. One is even comforted by it, not unlike when one is wearing a garment made by one’s own mother.

But one wants to avoid moving toward a mindset that a religious habit has a power in itself. It is the old maxim “The habit does not make the monk”. The habit is an outward sign of inward sentiments and dedication but it does not cause the Religious or empower the Religious to live the Rule of Life or possess the virtues proper to Religious Life.

That being said, one who wears a habit – or its abbreviated form, the scapular – cannot be surprised to have the love and protection of the Mother who gave it.

Does that help?
 
Yes. Thank you for the lovely thoughts your explanation brought to mind and heart. God bless you.
 
I pray and ask for protection when I need it and I may pray to St Benedict and ask him to pray for me too on occasion.

The green scapular is a little different and may be worth reading about since it can help even a non believer apparently.
The wearing of the medal, which is inscribed with invocations, is itself an act of devotion.

With regard to the Green Scapular of the Immaculate Heart…again one would want to ascribe its efficacy to prayer. Yes, it can be placed where there is an unbeliever but any effect is effected by the prayer of the Mother of Jesus, the person who placed the scapular and the prayer of the Church. It is not the scapular which converted the person…it it is God’s grace of which the scapular is a visible sign that points back to God’s salvific action.

The theological distinction is that a sacrament is an outward sign, instituted by Christ, that gives grace, presuming, of course, that the person is disposed to receive the sacrament and that which attends the sacrament…as such, it is a sign which achieves what it signifies; a sacramental on the other hand is a sign instituted by the Church whose efficacy is tied to the prayer of the Church and to the devotion of the people of God who make use it.
 
I have had a green scapular in my room since being an infant. Priest told my parents to put it in my room, for special protection against life-threatening food allergies I am plagued with
 
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Thank you, that’s helped me understand the use of those two sacramentals.

Are the symbols over the door of a house a similar thing?
 
I’m asking a genuine question, I’d like to know, so I’ll take a look in the Catechism first, see you in a mo.

Ok, can’t find a mention of scapulars but they are sacramentals which are sacred once blessed.

Perhaps @Vico could help? Or @Rob2
I haven’t used scapulars @Lee1 . I wear the Medal of the Immaculate Conception, popularly known as the Miraculous Medal .

The most important sacramental I use is Holy Water with its connection to my Baptism .
 
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