Fox and Friends interview with the women from the Texas Polygamy Sect

[deb1]

Fox and Friend had an interesting interview this morning and I wondered if anyone saw it? There were three women from the compound that was raided by authorities on allegation of sexual abuse.

I was struck by how all three women talked in a subdued, soft tone. It struck me as odd. I’ve seen interviews with parents who have lost children in other circumstances. Yet, despite their grief there was not this identical, eye downward, very soft tone. I could see one woman might be unusually shy but all three?

Did anyone else see the interview?

 

[Jerusha]

No, I didn’t see the interview. This is typical for women in a culture that subjugates women. Very common among Mormon women. I once had a Native Mormon friend who was this way to an extreme degree. As she worked her way out of it she became more asssertive. This extremely submissive attitude is just more evidence of the abuse.

 

[jrabs]

Yes, I also notice the soft spoken tone of the women. Very sad situation - actually disturbing is the word.

 

[kalt]

Fox and Friend had an interesting interview this morning and I wondered if anyone saw it? There were three women from the compound that was raided by authorities on allegation of sexual abuse.

I was struck by how all three women talked in a subdued, soft tone. It struck me as odd. I’ve seen interviews with parents who have lost children in other circumstances. Yet, despite their grief there was not this identical, eye downward, very soft tone. I could see one woman might be unusually shy but all three?

Did anyone else see the interview?

I noticed the tone of voice a few days ago, when one woman gave a brief statement to a reporter.

I think it’s brainwashing. She sounded just like Manson’s followers. Same look on her face. Same tone of voice. Same not-quite-in-the-here-and-now look and sound.

Weird.

 

[GemmaRose]

I noticed the tone of voice a few days ago, when one woman gave a brief statement to a reporter.

I think it’s brainwashing. She sounded just like Manson’s followers. Same look on her face. Same tone of voice. Same not-quite-in-the-here-and-now look and sound.

Weird.

I saw both – a few days ago, and this morning. The three this morning looked totally brainwashed. The middle one and the end one especially, with the strange smiles they had on their faces. If they are as upset as they profess to be, why the smiles?

And how about when one would start to answer and another or the two others would join in her answer with the exact same words – as if they had been brainwashed with some sort of memorized script.

Absolutely tooooooo weird!

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*“Dear God, do You know the greatest grief one of Your creatures can bear? It is the thought that she can never love You enough. ” *- St. Gemma Galgani

 

[ibkc]

Video of the interview is linked off of Fox News’ front page:
foxnews.com

‘Disturbing’ is a good way to describe these women’s behavior.

 

[deb1]

I am glad that it struck you all as strange. I wondered if it was just me allowing my biases against the group to color how I viewed them.

 

[Jerusha]

You don’t need to apologize for your perceptions. Invalidation of others’ perceptions and feelings is the way Mormon people turn people into what you saw in those women.

 

[deb1]

You don’t need to apologize for your perceptions. Invalidation of others’ perceptions and feelings is the way Mormon people turn people into what you saw in those women.

A few years back I saw a documentary on polygamy. It depicted a couple of polygamist and spoke with their families. Each woman talked about how difficult it was to restrain their emotions and jealousy toward other women. Understand, these women weren’t simply not letting their emotional reactions control them they were actively repressing their feelings and desires.Their lives sounded suffocating.

I couldn’t finish watching the documentary because it made me feel so sad for these individuals.

Did any one else notice that when the women were asked if they were related to any of the officials in their church they all paused first and then said no. I think that they might have been telling a fib.

 

[geezerbob]

Their faces appeared devoid of emotion and they spoke as if they had been well rehearsed. I also noticed the long pauses when questions were asked for which they apparently had not been prepared to answer and how the other two quickly jumped in to support the first one’s answers. My perception was that the whole thing was phony and meant to make law enforcement look bad. I cannot comprehend how any “normal” woman could speak so dispassionately about something as emotionally devastating as the loss of her kids, even if the loss was only temporary.

 

[Righteousone]

Yes, I saw it and all their hair was the same way. That’s what I noticed along with how they talked like scared little girls…so sad.

 

[Dee_Dee_King]

i’m glad they busted that freak show up. it disgusts me that we allow these cults in our country. they are doing violence to children when raising them in that enviornment.

polygamy is completely incompatible with a just and ordered society and culture, as is pornography, abortion and divorce.

 

[Zooey]

Their faces appeared devoid of emotion and they spoke as if they had been well rehearsed. I also noticed the long pauses when questions were asked for which they apparently had not been prepared to answer and how the other two quickly jumped in to support the first one’s answers. My perception was that the whole thing was phony and meant to make law enforcement look bad. I cannot comprehend how any “normal” woman could speak so dispassionately about something as emotionally devastating as the loss of her kids, even if the loss was only temporary.

I agree. I also noticed that when any one of the women started to show any emotion, that there were others speaking up, interrupting her. It was like she had departed from the “script”.

 

[deb1]

I agree. I also noticed that when any one of the women started to show any emotion, that there were others speaking up, interrupting her. It was like she had departed from the “script”.

I hadn’t thought of this but you are correct.

I watched a episode of Nancy Grey(Grace?) that showed some of the women speaking. The reporter asked one of the women if their cult allowed older men to marry girls. The woman responded like this:

Woman:" Do you know what Zion is?

The reporter, sounding startled: No. What is Zion?

Woman: Heaven on earth and that is what we have here, heaven on earth. (Cue strange, otherwordly smile)

I got a shiver hearing this woman speak. She sounded like a character in a b-rated horror movie about cults.

It was also brought up on the show that the children were taken from the birth mother to be raised by several women. So children had several moms and not much emotional connection to their own birth mother.

My husband pointed out that-just like another poster on this thread-that all the women were dressed exactly alike with similar hairstyles. Their individuality has been robbed.

 

[Zooey]

The reporter asked one of the women if their cult allowed older men to marry girls. The woman responded like this:

Woman:" Do you know what Zion is?

The reporter, sounding startled: No. What is Zion?

Woman: Heaven on earth and that is what we have here, heaven on earth. (Cue strange, otherwordly smile)

That is the same line that I heard from a couple of the women that I heard speak, on a different show…It is like that is what they are expected to say. And it seems like they think that will deflect attention away.

 

[J_C]

some time after the Jim Jones massacre in Guyana, a documentary film about it was made. The event that set off the killings was an investigatory visit by a California U.S. Congressman and some of his staff. Jones and his minions presented a series of demonstrations for the Congressman that were designed to make everyone there seem happy as pie, but he insisted on private interviews with anyone who wanted to talk to him. He didn’t buy the presentation, and Jones realized that bigger problems were coming his way once the Congressman got back to California. So he ordered his minions to ambush the Congressional party as they were boarding their airplane to leave, killing the Congressman and several of his staff. Meanwhile the suicides started back at the compound, and almost 1000 men women and children died, many of them unwilling to take the poison and so were shot to death.

This is the reality of some of these cults. on top of everything else, according to my reading, mormonism has a violent streak in it that goes all the way back to its originator, who far from being a martyr, went down shooting. The second mormonn leader, B. Young, was not a wilting violet, and was undoubtedly behind much violence, a lot of it against his own people.

this FLSD cult is a throwback to an earlier form of mormonnism. judging from the way these ladies are dressed and coiffed, I’d say they think it is maybe 1870 or so. it probably is not a stretch of imagination for the Texas authorities to assume that violence among these people is a real possibility.

 

[ibkc]

This is the reality of some of these cults. on top of everything else, according to my reading, mormonism has a violent streak in it that goes all the way back to its originator, who far from being a martyr, went down shooting. The second mormonn leader, B. Young, was not a wilting violet, and was undoubtedly behind much violence, a lot of it against his own people.

this FLSD cult is a throwback to an earlier form of mormonnism. judging from the way these ladies are dressed and coiffed, I’d say they think it is maybe 1870 or so. it probably is not a stretch of imagination for the Texas authorities to assume that violence among these people is a real possibility.

Because it is:

Under the Banner of Heaven

Anyone read this book? I’ve read Krakaur’s “Into Thin Air” and “Into the Wild” and I am a fan, but I have not yet gotten around to this one.

 

[ArdenB]

What I don’t get is how this group supports themselves. Do they have jobs?

 

[J_C]

tonight, over dinner, my friend and I were discussing this matter. I mentioned that I had psoted on this thread and given the opinion that the FLS sect is a throwback to an earlier form of mormonasm.

Then I remembered reading that the FLDS started around the turn of the 20th century, either in the late 1800s or early 1900s. I realized that this coincided with the end of sanctioned plural marriage among the LDS in the west, and that the FLDS was a breakaway cult that chose not to go along with the new plan.

in that sense, then, we may actually be seeing, in the FLDS, what mormans looked like in the 19th century. After 1900 the mormans started a process of maintstreaming so as to be more palatable to the rest of America. Over time, they actually blended in pretty well. But the FLDS is like a time capsule, you might say. Frozen at year 1900, they look and act much like Mormons looked and acted in the bad old days of Bloody Brigham.

Does this make sense?

 

[ArdenB]

tonight, over dinner, my friend and I were discussing this matter. I mentioned that I had psoted on this thread and given the opinion that the FLS sect is a throwback to an earlier form of mormonasm.

Then I remembered reading that the FLDS started around the turn of the 20th century, either in the late 1800s or early 1900s. I realized that this coincided with the end of sanctioned plural marriage among the LDS in the west, and that the FLDS was a breakaway cult that chose not to go along with the new plan.

in that sense, then, we may actually be seeing, in the FLDS, what mormans looked like in the 19th century. After 1900 the mormans started a process of maintstreaming so as to be more palatable to the rest of America. Over time, they actually blended in pretty well. But the FLDS is like a time capsule, you might say. Frozen at year 1900, they look and act much like Mormons looked and acted in the bad old days of Bloody Brigham.

Does this make sense?

That’s what I thought also. I just wonder if the women back then also talked like robots.