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pnewton
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I thought he resigned that role.
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Eliza10
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Bob_Crowley
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I think I’ve only heard Fr. Corapi speak once, when i happened to stumble upon an EWTN broadcast. Over here the only way to hear EWTN on television is a community channel called Briz 31, which I think is mainly a training station for media students. So the rates would be a lot cheaper.
I’m afraid that as I listened to him, I had this uneasy feeling. I can’t pin it down, so I’m not going go make a judgment either way. He was clearly a powerful speaker, but the uneasy feeling persisted for some unknown reason. And that’s all I can say. And this was well before all this other business came to light.
Morris West, the Australia novelist (author of “The Shoes of the Fisherman” later made into a film), was once a seminary student, but gave it away when h realised he wasn’t cut out for it. He probably had far more impact as a writer.
Scott Hahn seems to have a wide following, and he’s not a priest either.
Maybe Fr. Corapi will have a ministry in some other way, rather than as an ordained priest. In one sense it doesn’t affect me, since I was neither a fan or a detractor.
One thing we do need though is Cathoiic evangelists, along the lines of Bishop Fulton Sheen. They’re sorely lacking in this day and age.
I’m afraid that as I listened to him, I had this uneasy feeling. I can’t pin it down, so I’m not going go make a judgment either way. He was clearly a powerful speaker, but the uneasy feeling persisted for some unknown reason. And that’s all I can say. And this was well before all this other business came to light.
Morris West, the Australia novelist (author of “The Shoes of the Fisherman” later made into a film), was once a seminary student, but gave it away when h realised he wasn’t cut out for it. He probably had far more impact as a writer.
Scott Hahn seems to have a wide following, and he’s not a priest either.
Maybe Fr. Corapi will have a ministry in some other way, rather than as an ordained priest. In one sense it doesn’t affect me, since I was neither a fan or a detractor.
One thing we do need though is Cathoiic evangelists, along the lines of Bishop Fulton Sheen. They’re sorely lacking in this day and age.
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Eliza10
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That uneasy feeling - I’ve had it too. its made me tune him out in the past couple of years, at least.
Here are some similar observations made on a the Catholic Patheos website:
Dvora:
Apparently I’m the only one who does not gaze on Fr Corapi’s countenance with stars in my eyes. I have watched this priest on TV and every time I have ended up switching channels because I’ve heard one too many “I”, “me” and “my” references. I’ve heard him tell his story more than once, when once should be enough. Christocentric preaching attracts me, not ego-centric stories. I shake my head to see that the good Father sees a need to defend himself… and in so doing, he disses the Church’s standards for dealing with accusations of sexual abuse. If he is innocent, then no defense is necessary; if not, no defense will ever suffice.
Stephan:
But there is this difference between St.Padre Pio and Fr. Corapi: Fr. Corapi quite often
bragged about what a great sinner he was. He detailed his exploits: “I had it all: mansion, money, drugs, women. You name it. I was a guy a father would not his daughter to date!” He repeated these revelations two or three times. What shocked me
was that he never expressed any regret or repentance; so, I quit listening. If you don’t believe me, check with someone who taped his talks. I don’t accuse him of present sinful conduct as a priest; however, he should clean up his act.
As for improving his appearance for EWTN, Fr. Pacwa has a rug; even Fr. Benedict seems to have had a facial; and those dudes with the gray habits, especially the oldest
monk,hugging strange young women; et cetera. Enough. We all are lousy sinners Mea culpa!
janet:
A couple of months ago I was listening to Fr. Corapi on the radio. After several minutes of listening to him tell stories about himself I grew increasingling impatient that he was spending waaay too much time talking about himself hoping there was some point to this. Then in his story he said (paraphrasing) ‘he was sunning himself on the roof when he jumped up butt naked!’
I took serious issue with that statement. I really didn’t want the image of this priest’s naked butt in my imagination. A holy man would know better than to place such an immodest image in the minds of his listeners. I turned off the radio & have been concerned for him ever since.
Also, to be honest, I find Fr.’s statement about these accusations sorely lacking in humility especially in this time of Lenten introspection.
Although I can understand the treatment for a Vitamin D deficiency to explain the tan, it doesn’t explain why after all this time he would combine the tan with dying his facial hair.
My comment to the above is that I also was troubled by so much talk about self. It should lessen, over the years, but it increased. I think he just got more and more worldly.
What I found sorely missing when he talks is any reflection on what he has learned about God and God’s purposes for him garnered from hours of prayer and meditation. I HAVE heard him say he wished he could live a monastic life and not preach. That charming statement gets repeated. But those are empty words. Nice-sounding, but empty. No evidence, no talk ever of his contemplations and his prayers, or Masses! When did he ever celebrate Mass? I don’t know!
It has been reported that because of the troubles of being this celebrity he had to stop hearing confessions!! If this is true, this is a serious red flag.
Yes, he looked like a monk in the gray robe on TV. However, his private life, devoid of accountability and exempt from obedience to his order’s rule (or ANY rule), was about the furthest thing from Monastic as possible, particularly in recent years.
So he strongly accused the Church of treating him unfairly and wanting to get rid of him (but offers no evidence). And that’s what people are repeating! That the “Church” is out to get him. That’s our Church, folks! Lets hold back a bit before we jump to his side against our Church.
Here are some similar observations made on a the Catholic Patheos website:
Dvora:
Apparently I’m the only one who does not gaze on Fr Corapi’s countenance with stars in my eyes. I have watched this priest on TV and every time I have ended up switching channels because I’ve heard one too many “I”, “me” and “my” references. I’ve heard him tell his story more than once, when once should be enough. Christocentric preaching attracts me, not ego-centric stories. I shake my head to see that the good Father sees a need to defend himself… and in so doing, he disses the Church’s standards for dealing with accusations of sexual abuse. If he is innocent, then no defense is necessary; if not, no defense will ever suffice.
Stephan:
But there is this difference between St.Padre Pio and Fr. Corapi: Fr. Corapi quite often
bragged about what a great sinner he was. He detailed his exploits: “I had it all: mansion, money, drugs, women. You name it. I was a guy a father would not his daughter to date!” He repeated these revelations two or three times. What shocked me
was that he never expressed any regret or repentance; so, I quit listening. If you don’t believe me, check with someone who taped his talks. I don’t accuse him of present sinful conduct as a priest; however, he should clean up his act.
As for improving his appearance for EWTN, Fr. Pacwa has a rug; even Fr. Benedict seems to have had a facial; and those dudes with the gray habits, especially the oldest
monk,hugging strange young women; et cetera. Enough. We all are lousy sinners Mea culpa!
janet:
A couple of months ago I was listening to Fr. Corapi on the radio. After several minutes of listening to him tell stories about himself I grew increasingling impatient that he was spending waaay too much time talking about himself hoping there was some point to this. Then in his story he said (paraphrasing) ‘he was sunning himself on the roof when he jumped up butt naked!’
I took serious issue with that statement. I really didn’t want the image of this priest’s naked butt in my imagination. A holy man would know better than to place such an immodest image in the minds of his listeners. I turned off the radio & have been concerned for him ever since.
Also, to be honest, I find Fr.’s statement about these accusations sorely lacking in humility especially in this time of Lenten introspection.
Although I can understand the treatment for a Vitamin D deficiency to explain the tan, it doesn’t explain why after all this time he would combine the tan with dying his facial hair.
My comment to the above is that I also was troubled by so much talk about self. It should lessen, over the years, but it increased. I think he just got more and more worldly.
What I found sorely missing when he talks is any reflection on what he has learned about God and God’s purposes for him garnered from hours of prayer and meditation. I HAVE heard him say he wished he could live a monastic life and not preach. That charming statement gets repeated. But those are empty words. Nice-sounding, but empty. No evidence, no talk ever of his contemplations and his prayers, or Masses! When did he ever celebrate Mass? I don’t know!
It has been reported that because of the troubles of being this celebrity he had to stop hearing confessions!! If this is true, this is a serious red flag.
Yes, he looked like a monk in the gray robe on TV. However, his private life, devoid of accountability and exempt from obedience to his order’s rule (or ANY rule), was about the furthest thing from Monastic as possible, particularly in recent years.
So he strongly accused the Church of treating him unfairly and wanting to get rid of him (but offers no evidence). And that’s what people are repeating! That the “Church” is out to get him. That’s our Church, folks! Lets hold back a bit before we jump to his side against our Church.
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mcrow
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I think Mr. Corapi is innocent of what he is accused of. However, this “black sheep dog” persona he’s taking on is concerning in many ways.
#1- It is a clear challenge to the Church’s authority.
#2- It makes it sound like the Church is picking on him, when in fact this is SOP.
#3- It reeks of being a quitter. When things get tough, I’ll take my ball and go home.
#4- It shows the dark place he’s in right now and that perhaps his decision making isn’t at it’s best right now.
#5- It focuses on him and not the faith or the Church. Me, me, ne.
#6- I don’t have a problem with a Priest making a living, but (right or wrong) this seems to be more financially motivated than it should be. I know that not all priests take a vow of poverty but I think that making money should be low on the list of things for a priest.
#1- It is a clear challenge to the Church’s authority.
#2- It makes it sound like the Church is picking on him, when in fact this is SOP.
#3- It reeks of being a quitter. When things get tough, I’ll take my ball and go home.
#4- It shows the dark place he’s in right now and that perhaps his decision making isn’t at it’s best right now.
#5- It focuses on him and not the faith or the Church. Me, me, ne.
#6- I don’t have a problem with a Priest making a living, but (right or wrong) this seems to be more financially motivated than it should be. I know that not all priests take a vow of poverty but I think that making money should be low on the list of things for a priest.
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tonydavies
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I like his name choice. Sheep Dog has no negative connotations obviously but the Black is contentious for some as well as his graphic logo some are describing as satanic.
OK well if the color black is a problem for some I can only draw to your attention that a Catholic Priest traditionally wears black sooooo maybe just maybe that is how Father Corapi came up with the idea of BSD. I like the moniker Black Sheep Dog and think it rocks
OK well if the color black is a problem for some I can only draw to your attention that a Catholic Priest traditionally wears black sooooo maybe just maybe that is how Father Corapi came up with the idea of BSD. I like the moniker Black Sheep Dog and think it rocks
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Eliza10
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Tony, Father Joe Jenkins of the Archdiocese of Washington, D.C. thinks he should call himself the BLACK WOLF. From his blog:
FATHER CORAPI: I shall continue, black sheep that I am, to speak; and sheep dog that I am, to guard the sheep—this time around not just in the Church, but also in the entire world. I am, indeed, not ready to be extinguished. Under the name “The Black Sheep Dog,” I shall be with you through radio broadcasts and writing.
FATHER JOE: The sheep dog has no occupation separated from the chief shepherd or bishop. A dog that runs after the sheep on its own is not a true sheep dog, but rather we use another name for that canine… we call him a wolf. I would suggest that Fr. Corapi change the name of his blog and new label to BLACK WOLF. Indeed, in the future, if he carries out his intent to keep selling his wares and writing and making radio broadcasts, that is what I shall call him.
FATHER CORAPI: I shall continue, black sheep that I am, to speak; and sheep dog that I am, to guard the sheep—this time around not just in the Church, but also in the entire world. I am, indeed, not ready to be extinguished. Under the name “The Black Sheep Dog,” I shall be with you through radio broadcasts and writing.
FATHER JOE: The sheep dog has no occupation separated from the chief shepherd or bishop. A dog that runs after the sheep on its own is not a true sheep dog, but rather we use another name for that canine… we call him a wolf. I would suggest that Fr. Corapi change the name of his blog and new label to BLACK WOLF. Indeed, in the future, if he carries out his intent to keep selling his wares and writing and making radio broadcasts, that is what I shall call him.
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mariafransisca2
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I loved the logo. I cry whenever I think of it. I think Father Corapi is a really good man. I’m glad I found him on the site and know he had been accused unjustly. And been treated unjustly by the bishops for his outspokenness about the errors of the church and of the world. Especially in America. Abortion, and many other evils.
I pray for him every day.
He is a modern St.Paul. I’ve been looking for people who love Jesus and I found none. Maybe one or two.
And I find father corapi. I’m so glad. I will help him with my prayers all the days of my life until the day of my death. I’m on his side.
Listen to his mp3 here
mp3s.pl/mp3/Father_Corapi/
When you read the comments on his youtube channel, you will see that he has many people who love him. And pray for him. It’s very moving. People are helped by Father Corapi’s teaching. Sometimes it cost much to say the truth.
It can even cost a martyrdom, such as St John the Baptist (he was beheaded because of saying that it is not rightful for Herodes to take Herodias, his brother’s wife, as his wife)
But he gets his crown of martyrdom that way.
I’d love to be like St. John the Baptist. I’d love to be a martyr for love of Jesus, soul and body.
Be careful though it contains immodest image as the logo, just scroll down and hear the talk. It’s very moving.
www.theblacksheepdog.us
He also has a tumor. What a cross. And he offered that for conversion of sinners, such as us.
He also have youtube channel. I feel so good and relieved listening to his talk
youtube.com/user/TheBlackSheepdog1
youtube.com/user/FatherCorapi
And his conversion story, what a conversion! From millionaire, drug addict, to be a holy priest
youtube.com/watch?v=mhAyEZR4gUk
I pray for him every day.
He is a modern St.Paul. I’ve been looking for people who love Jesus and I found none. Maybe one or two.
And I find father corapi. I’m so glad. I will help him with my prayers all the days of my life until the day of my death. I’m on his side.
Listen to his mp3 here
mp3s.pl/mp3/Father_Corapi/
When you read the comments on his youtube channel, you will see that he has many people who love him. And pray for him. It’s very moving. People are helped by Father Corapi’s teaching. Sometimes it cost much to say the truth.
It can even cost a martyrdom, such as St John the Baptist (he was beheaded because of saying that it is not rightful for Herodes to take Herodias, his brother’s wife, as his wife)
But he gets his crown of martyrdom that way.
I’d love to be like St. John the Baptist. I’d love to be a martyr for love of Jesus, soul and body.
Be careful though it contains immodest image as the logo, just scroll down and hear the talk. It’s very moving.
www.theblacksheepdog.us
He also has a tumor. What a cross. And he offered that for conversion of sinners, such as us.
He also have youtube channel. I feel so good and relieved listening to his talk
youtube.com/user/TheBlackSheepdog1
youtube.com/user/FatherCorapi
And his conversion story, what a conversion! From millionaire, drug addict, to be a holy priest
youtube.com/watch?v=mhAyEZR4gUk
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Eliza10
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Maria, you sound* enthralled* with John Corapi.
I would rather be enthralled with Jesus alone.
His bishop is doing him wrong! Well, that bishop has a name, and he counts, too, even though he is not a charismatic celebrity!
Consider, Maria, when you say he has been unjustly accused, then you are saying the accuser is unjust. Lying.
It is easy to take sides against an anonymous person you don’t know, and cling to the figure you know and admire. But that person you call unjust, the one who has said that Fr. Corapi has been using drugs and sleeping with multiple woman - what if she is in fact telling the truth? You don’t know! All you have is your idealized picture of him.
Mr. Corapi is not a saint. He is human. He can fall, just like you and me. He is capable of sin. He can stumble. He can fall into the evil one’s snares and temptations.
Only in storybooks are heroes perfect and faultless.
So Maria, since you do NOT know, by taking sides against the the Catholic Church and against a woman you know nothing about at all, you are joining in the crowd of Corapi-supporters who accuse her. You, in fact, may be a contributor to the great, great pain of a wrongfully accused woman.
Think about that.
I would rather be enthralled with Jesus alone.
It makes me sad what divisions John Corapi has introduced. By becoming too much a celebrity figure and now his adoring fans are anxious to take sides - sides against the Church Herself!!! To make statements such as yours - the bishops have treated him unfairly. Well, Maria, maybe some have but maybe many more have treated him quite fairly. Now they are being maligned by association. And maybe Mr. Corapi hasn’t treated everyone in his life with perfect fairness 100% of the time, either!
His bishop is doing him wrong! Well, that bishop has a name, and he counts, too, even though he is not a charismatic celebrity!
Consider, Maria, when you say he has been unjustly accused, then you are saying the accuser is unjust. Lying.
It is easy to take sides against an anonymous person you don’t know, and cling to the figure you know and admire. But that person you call unjust, the one who has said that Fr. Corapi has been using drugs and sleeping with multiple woman - what if she is in fact telling the truth? You don’t know! All you have is your idealized picture of him.
Mr. Corapi is not a saint. He is human. He can fall, just like you and me. He is capable of sin. He can stumble. He can fall into the evil one’s snares and temptations.
Only in storybooks are heroes perfect and faultless.
So Maria, since you do NOT know, by taking sides against the the Catholic Church and against a woman you know nothing about at all, you are joining in the crowd of Corapi-supporters who accuse her. You, in fact, may be a contributor to the great, great pain of a wrongfully accused woman.
Think about that.
As a new convert, I once breathlessly expressed this same dreamy ideal - I wished to be a martyr! My more seasoned Catholic friend laughed. He said, “Of course! One, quick painful end and you shoot straight to heaven! Who wouldn’t want that to be in that elite class? How much more wonderful that would be than to instead suffer the day-to-day trials and temptations and humiliations of a long life, and then have to spend time in purgatory, too - like the vast majority of heaven-bound humanity!”
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pnewton
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I find this phrase particularly disturbing. In putting this man so high, it unfairly judges all others, including the bishops and priests that have given their whole life for love of Christ. This attitude is indicative of the danger faced in trying to be a sheep dog with no shepherd. You will find followers to be sure if you have this type of charismatic followers, but the danger is high. The authority structure we have was put in place by this same Jesus and guided by the Holy Spirit. Any personality that divides between the haves and the have nots must have that authority structure as a balance, lest pride, elitism and schism set in.
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Eliza10
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But life continues on, as it does for all of us. This is how I see the story standing now:
From millionaire, to drug addict and womanizer, to holy priest, to worldly priest, to millionaire, to accused drug-user and womanizer, to quitter of the Holy Priesthood…
It is sad indeed. With all my heart, I wish the last part (underlined) was:
…to reclusive priest, to repentant priest, to most-powerful witness of the Grace of God.
Sadly, it doesn’t look like its going that way right now. But God can do all things, at least when we have even the tiniest bit of willingness to cooperate with Him. So I will continue to pray for God’s grace and John Corapi’s openness to it. He desperately needs our prayers, Maria. May God use your genererous prayers abundantly.
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mcrow
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Yes, this statement is the very problem with Mr. Corapi. He’s made himself too much of a cult personality. When people start calling you the "modern St. Paul’, then it’s time to take a step back a look at what you’re doing. In no way does Mr. Corapi resemble St. Paul with the exception of once being a Priest. Now, I thought he was a good priest I enjoyed the talks but I think he grew into something else, a media mogul.
While I think he is innocent and perhaps delt a raw deal with the Church stopping his ministry, I can’t help but think there may have been some good in it. Perhaps he needed to be out of the public eye to rethink his ministry and to take the focus off of him and back to God.
I was told by a priest: “If the laity begins to notice you and thus focus less on God, you are failing in your Priestly duties”
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JVSantos
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FATHER JOE:" The sheep dog has no occupation separated from the chief shepherd or bishop. A dog that runs after the sheep on its own is not a true sheep dog, but rather we use another name for that canine… we call him a wolf. I would suggest that Fr. Corapi change the name of his blog and new label to BLACK WOLF. Indeed, in the future, if he carries out his intent to keep selling his wares and writing and making radio broadcasts, that is what I shall call him."
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Sailor_Kenshin
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The feeding frenzy continues.
Father Corapi has been tried, convicted, and hanged—without benefit of trial, judge or jury.
I think someone is glad it’s playing out this way.
Father Corapi has been tried, convicted, and hanged—without benefit of trial, judge or jury.
I think someone is glad it’s playing out this way.
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JVSantos
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Corapi, enjoy your earthly riches.
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scoobydoo6v92
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I am getting tired of John Corapi. I am tired of his arrogance his pride. I am tired of how he is unapproachable!!! Christ is more approachable. I realize that I have put him on a pedestal and the only one to put on a pedestal is Jesus Christ. We don’t need Fr Corapi or John Corapi or whatever he wants to be called to learn our faith we need our eyes to read and read the catechism. How come so many people feel sorry for him??? What he did to the priesthood something so many men die do be and get rejected or become priests all they do to get there is reduced to an inconvenience or something that is not worthy HE SOLD OUT!!! for his Santa Cruz Media. That is how I feel. If the priesthood meant that much to him he would have given anything to keep it. I am sorry but I feel no sorrow for him and I think he is a little baby that got his little fingie hurt and is pouting. When Mr Pride becomes a priest again and renounces his pride and becomes approachable and HUMBLE!!! and stops BSing about how many miracles he has gotten ( I learned spanish in one night) yeah right. spare me, once he humbles himself and man up take his cross become the priest God chose him to be I will respect him again. Till then I will listen to other priests that love thier priesthood as a man his wife. He devorced himself from the church. Scoob
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Edward_H
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His order released details of their investigation and the results are thick and atrocious…sex, drugs, and lots of property.
And what’s worse an unrepentant manner.
And what’s worse an unrepentant manner.
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scoobydoo6v92
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Doesn’t that make one tearful for the Holy Priesthood?? What a precious gift to be called to priesthood and then spit it back in God’s face it literally makes me deeply sad and tear up over the priesthood. Something so dear so precious so awesome that it is uncomprehendable (sp?) that it is too much for me to read the findings in the investigation. It is just sad. I hope God talks to him and shows him how much a gift priesthood is. He lost big time.
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RosaryFan
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I feel the same way. St. Pio also suffered great trials and persecution by the Bishops. He was called a “fake”, he was accused of sexual misconduct, and he wasn’t allowed to hear confessions or say Mass publicly for some time because of this. He was obedient and suffered greatly from this unjust punishment. But he took the punishment even though he knew it was unjust because he was obedient above all. He offered up his sufferings and many souls benefitted from that, I’m sure. He eventually got permission once again to hear confessions and say Mass publicly. I’m sure if Fr. Corapi would stick it out like St. Pio, he too would rise above it.
I love Fr. Corapi, but I have to say, there is an element of pride here that is disturbing to me. He’s letting the devil win and doesn’t even realize it.
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onenow1
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I can’t put my finger on it one way or the other, but something does not add up.
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