Fr. Cutie is a Priest Again (Episcopal)

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Apparently, he has just been officially received as a priest on Saturday. I am not sure whether he was required to take time for a period of discernment or went through another period as a deacon as one article suggested when the whole thing began.

In any case, his parish has grown from 28 to 250 according to the article.
miamiherald.com/2010/05/29/1655231/cutie-is-a-priest-again-and-a.html

It is ironic that he is going to the Episcopal Church are a time when many orthodox are fleeing it and they and others are considering becoming part of the Anglican ordinariates with the Roman Catholic Church.
 
How sad. Still I am relieved to hear that relatively few of his parishioners jumped ship with him, as the article puts it; “a testament to faith over celebrity.”
 
They are more than welcome to him. I hope he is more faithful to their church than he was to ours.
 
We need to be praying for Father Cutie’s conversion as well as that of his wife. I am so sad by this. We need to pray fervently for our priests and especially for the ones who have fallen away.

I pray no souls follow down the path he has chosen. A friend used to say to me that heresy begins below the belt. I keep thinking this whenever I hear anything about Fr. Cutie.

St. John Vianney, pray for us!
 
In the tradition of Matthew Fox. And he seems every bit as flakey.

Why they would take either one is a mystery. If it’s because of open-mindedness, then their minds are so open their brains are falling out.

Don’t know about in the States, but here in Canada, Anglicans don’t re-ordain from Catholic orders. The people just tell the Anglican bishop they think the Anglican Church is Catholic, and that’s it, they’re Anglicans.

Blessings,

Gerry
 
Gerry_Hunter said:
In the tradition of Matthew Fox. And he seems every bit as flakey.

Why they would take either one is a mystery. If it’s because of open-mindedness, then their minds are so open their brains are falling out.

Don’t know about in the States, but here in Canada, Anglicans don’t re-ordain from Catholic orders. The people just tell the Anglican bishop they think the Anglican Church is Catholic, and that’s it, they’re Anglicans.

Blessings,

Gerry
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More accurately, they are received in their Orders, Anglicans of all stripes (or plaid) recognizing that RC orders are valid.

GKC
 
I guess I am not as hard on him as most. I saw his interview on Oprah (which I DO NOT watch regulary) and he seemed truely searching. There is an old saying that goes…
“for perfect people there is the Catholic church, for sinners the Episcopal Church will do.” I don’t judge any one elses journey, just their sincerity.
 
GKC said:
More accurately, they are received in their Orders, Anglicans of all stripes (or plaid) recognizing that RC orders are valid.

GKC
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Thanks for the insight. I’ve never seen that done, but I’ve seen the reception of Catholics, and it’s done (in Canada) at confirmation events. After the individual says that Anglicans are Catholics, the bishop shakes his/her hand and bids welcome. That’s it.

Blessings,

Gerry
 
bauerice said:
I guess I am not as hard on him as most. I saw his interview on Oprah (which I DO NOT watch regulary) and he seemed truely searching. There is an old saying that goes…
“for perfect people there is the Catholic church, for sinners the Episcopal Church will do.” I don’t judge any one elses journey, just their sincerity.
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And that saying is anti-Catholic screed, nothing less!

Are we to act as if merely being part of one’s “journey” makes an action acceptable? And what are we to make of the malefactor who, with “sincerity,” believes that for him, the action is good, or appropriate, or necessary, and therefore nothing about it is wrong?

We must never loose sight of the fact that declining to offer judgement is not the same thing as, and does not demand, the abandonment of the exercise of discernment.

Christ told us clearly, “By their fruit you shall know them.” And this is bad fruit.

Blessings,

Gerry
 
Why is it bad fruit? how about a different kind of fruit?
Gerry_Hunter said:
And that saying is anti-Catholic screed, nothing less!

Are we to act as if merely being part of one’s “journey” makes an action acceptable? And what are we to make of the malefactor who, with “sincerity,” believes that for him, the action is good, or appropriate, or necessary, and therefore nothing about it is wrong?

We must never loose sight of the fact that declining to offer judgement is not the same thing as, and does not demand, the abandonment of the exercise of discernment.

Christ told us clearly, “By their fruit you shall know them.” And this is bad fruit.

Blessings,

Gerry
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Gerry_Hunter said:
Thanks for the insight. I’ve never seen that done, but I’ve seen the reception of Catholics, and it’s done (in Canada) at confirmation events. After the individual says that Anglicans are Catholics, the bishop shakes his/her hand and bids welcome. That’s it.

Blessings,

Gerry
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Never seen that. The principle with respect to the sacrament of confirmation would be the same for Anglicans receiving RCs as for the sacrament of Orders. If the individual was confirmed in the RCC, then Anglicanism, understanding the RCC to possess the historic episcopacy, would not try to “reconfirm” them.

OTOH, I can’t answer for what you may have seen. Something from one of the plaid Anglicans, maybe. It is far from my ken.

GKC
 
bauerice said:
I guess I am not as hard on him as most. I saw his interview on Oprah (which I DO NOT watch regulary) and he seemed truely searching. There is an old saying that goes…
“for perfect people there is the Catholic church, for sinners the Episcopal Church will do.” I don’t judge any one elses journey, just their sincerity.
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I saw his interview on Telemundo and I never forget Father Cutie’s words:

Just because I am priest did not mean I stopped being a man.

Nice excuse their Father Cutie.

What part of ‘vows’ did you fail to comprehend?
 
The Episcopal Church does not usually accept converting clergy into its clergy ranks with any kind of speed. The church chooses to put any converting clergy through a period of discernment that is similar to one become a priest from the ranks of the laity.

Anglicans recognize the validity of RC orders, so RC and Orthodox priests are received, not ordained. In the case of Fr. Cutie, he was received as a deacon with lightening speed, and I am glad they took some time allowing him to function as a priest.

I know of a former RC priest who had to go through many years of discernment before being received as an Episcopal priest. It was no slam-dunk. I also know of two former Lutheran ministers who became Episcopal priests. It took them at least 5 years to be received in the Episcopal church.

Before the Fr. Cutie example, I think the example of Richard John Neuhaus is one of the fastest movements ever. He was received by Cardinal Cooke one year and ordained one year later. I expect that is not the norm among Catholics.

As to Matthew Fox, he is a priest in my diocese, but is rarely seen.
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In the tradition of Matthew Fox. And he seems every bit as flakey.

Why they would take either one is a mystery. If it’s because of open-mindedness, then their minds are so open their brains are falling out.

Don’t know about in the States, but here in Canada, Anglicans don’t re-ordain from Catholic orders. The people just tell the Anglican bishop they think the Anglican Church is Catholic, and that’s it, they’re Anglicans.

Blessings,

Gerry
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Is this the sect of the Episopalian Church that supports abortion and sodomy (gay marriage), and lesbian Bishops ?

Wasn’t there was a split in the Episcopalian Church a couple of years ago over these issues ? If so, what do they call each sect ?
Reporters never let us know which is which. Makes the entire Episcopalian Church look bad, and its not fair to those who try to follow Christ’s teachings.
 
Usbek_de_Perse said:
… I think the example of Richard John Neuhaus is one of the fastest movements ever. He was received by Cardinal Cooke one year and ordained one year later. I expect that is not the norm among Catholics.

As to Matthew Fox, he is a priest in my diocese, but is rarely seen.
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It’s on a case by case basis, but in Fr. Neuhaus’s case, he was a trained theologian, who was known to be fully conversant with the Catholic theology he was embracing. He had been involved in much ecumenical theological work. His two sponsors when he was received into the Church were theologians: George Weigel, and (later) Cardinal Avery Dulles. And that, certainly, is not the norm. And the one year wait is the minimum, since the Sacred Canons do not permit a neophyte to receive Holy Orders.

The Anglicans in these parts had Fox up here a few years ago. Anglican friends (who did not attend) tell me they lost money on it.

Although I cannot, of course, condone any priest leaving the Catholic Church and entering a Protestant ministry, I can certainly understand, and not at all fault, Protestant clergy for being selective of whom they admit into their numbers. We do that, too. Another former Anglican clergyman of Vancouver Island, also with advanced education in theology, was a Catholic many years before his ordination was approved - by Rome, since he was married. Very much case by case.

Blessings,

Gerry
 
Soldier_X said:
This dude loves the spotlight, doesn’t he?
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Frankly, I found his so-called reasons for leaving pretty weak. He acted as though being a RCC priest the church took away his manhood?

That would be like myself saying: Just because I joined the miliatry does not mean I stopped being a man. The Air Force never said I would stop being a man,if anything it made me more of man. 👍
 
Nicea325 said:
Frankly, I found his so-called reasons for leaving pretty w**eak. He acted as though being a RCC priest the church took away his manhood?

That would be like myself saying: Just because I joined the miliatry does not mean I stopped being a man. The Air Force never said I would stop being a man,if anything it made me more of man. 👍
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Except that the military doesn’t discourage you from getting married or dating as a prerequisite to serving.
 
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