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emsvetich
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And your point?
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cathgal
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Point? It’s all there in the news. Difference between celibate hetero and ‘celibate’ homo. What is there to say.
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Skotnicki
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Fr Haley was suspended by his Bishop and is not a priest in good standing.
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cathgal
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Can anyone provide info as to why he’s not in good standing?
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Confiteor
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He brought to light --in a deposition that he was subpoened for–some scandalous behavior in the Arlington Diocese. According to his sworn deposition, he was punished for it. The RCF site you quoted from has the deposition, and it is not appropriate reading for a general audience.
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cruxnews.com/rose/rose-19march04.html
I don’t know anything about what happened, so I don’t know if Fr Haley is “a classic whistleblower” or simply disobedient. But he seems to be a controversial person.
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cathgal
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Guar Fan said:
I don’t know if being a whistleblower is a serious offense or not. If the Church done nothing wrong or scandalous, then there’s nothing to hide. Only the wrongs and the shames are kept hidden. Take child molesting for instance. If these incidents were exposed decades ago, there wouldn’t be so much trouble in the Church today. If the bishops are not doing their job, maybe the priests should. Better a whistleblower than one going against the teaching of Church. I don’t know the detail about Fr. Haley except for a glimpse of what was said in the previous responses.
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cathgal
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Guar Fan said:
After reading the article, I don’t think Fr. Haley did anything wrong. To call him disobedient and controversial are nonsense. He did what any person with common sense would do. On the other hand, Bishop Loverde doesn’t sound like a good shepherd. :nope:
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Della
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I feel sorry for Fr. Haley, but his comments about the Church not having the fullness of the truth are very troubling. I mean, talk about it all being about him. I’d take him more seriously if he left his hurt feelings out of it and stood up like a man to say what the whole issue is really about. I didn’t read the whole thing because it seemed more of a pity party rant than useful for understanding what happened. And what was all that about the possibility that he could end up in prison? Since when would a church tribunal be able to put anyone in prison? What I read was such a mesh-mash of self pity, I really couldn’t say what he was trying to tell us except he is deeply hurt. It made no sense to me.
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emsvetich
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The resulting replies indicate how a random post can lead to random chatter.That was and is my primary issue with the original posting. It was posted with no comments. Therefore I am given no insight into what the original poster intended. Are thye looking for agreement or a counterpoint? That leads to a disconnected string of analysis as everyone tries to make something of it. That was the reason for my original “And your point?” Your point and my point may be miles apart and we end up going in circles. If I refer to an article, I will state my position so that a counterpoint can be made rather than no point at all. It is not only this particular post, it occurs frequently. I still don’t know where this is going. Just my thoughts.
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cathgal
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That’s how you see it. I never see it that way. The forum is titled ‘Catholic News’ and that’s all I’m doing is posting news. If I have more to say about the article, then I will say it.
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Pentecost2005
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Therefore…
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beckyann2597
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I read the article and agree with him on the difference between hetro and homo celibacy, but I looked around the sight and saw it was supported by the late Fr. Malachi Martin. His advocacy worries me. He was a super paronoid guy who believed in alien stuff and was even on Art Bell’s Coast to Coast am.
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