Fr. Jenkins of ND - on the board of a pro-abortion group!

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Well - this is no surprise.

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Fr. John Jenkins of Notre Dame is on the board of directors of The Millennium Promise, an organization comprised of government organizations and non-government organizations that promote and support abortion and contraception.

The list of board members

PewSitter article

This man seriously needs prayers.

~Liza
 
Our Bishops seem to exercise much patience, in many cases more than what I would consider reasonable. But that is my impatient, human folly. As Christ shows much patience with us, our Bishops in my view exercise remarkable patience towards those that otherwise deserve the boot right out the door.

It seems to be at the point, though, that the Church needs to put down it’s collective foot, or rather, give a few festering heretics the boot right out the door…
Well - this is no surprise.

CLICK HERE

Fr. John Jenkins of Notre Dame is on the board of directors of The Millennium Promise, an organization comprised of government organizations and non-government organizations that promote and support abortion and contraception.

The list of board members

PewSitter article

This man seriously needs prayers.

~Liza
 
Did anyone else think that Michael Vorris sounded obnoxious in that ad? I think there’s a way to make your point without being disrespectful to a Catholic priest.

But that aside, I don’t think Catholics should necessarily avoid holding positions of influence in organizations that are not in line with Catholic teaching, especially if they use their influence and authority to bring about positive change. After all, the Millenium Goals are fundamentally Catholic ideals: to reduce poverty, combat disease, ensure environmental sustainability… If the Millenium Promise is the only organization really dedicated to these goals, then Fr. Jenkins should use his influence as a board member to bring them about in a way that is in keeping with the Catholic faith.

As an analogy, consider a faithful Catholic who wanted to become a politician. Perhaps she feels that she can be a powerful voice for life in a government that in increasingly anti-life. What would you advise her? The American government uses federal tax monies to pay for abortions and fund Title X clinics that provide contraception. It allies with governments that also promote abortion and contraception. Does this suggest that no Catholic should be involved in public life? On the contrary, I think it suggests that we need to be involved in public life, to serve in whatever way we feel we can best contribute.

I don’t know Father Jenkins personally, though I admire the institution that he is leading. But, in the words of St. John Vianney, “There is no such thing as a bad priest. Only priests from whom there has not been enough prayer.”

God bless.
 
Did anyone else think that Michael Vorris sounded obnoxious in that ad? I think there’s a way to make your point without being disrespectful to a Catholic priest.

But that aside, I don’t think Catholics should necessarily avoid holding positions of influence in organizations that are not in line with Catholic teaching, especially if they use their influence and authority to bring about positive change. After all, the Millenium Goals are fundamentally Catholic ideals: to reduce poverty, combat disease, ensure environmental sustainability… If the Millenium Promise is the only organization really dedicated to these goals, then Fr. Jenkins should use his influence as a board member to bring them about in a way that is in keeping with the Catholic faith.

As an analogy, consider a faithful Catholic who wanted to become a politician. Perhaps she feels that she can be a powerful voice for life in a government that in increasingly anti-life. What would you advise her? The American government uses federal tax monies to pay for abortions and fund Title X clinics that provide contraception. It allies with governments that also promote abortion and contraception. Does this suggest that no Catholic should be involved in public life? On the contrary, I think it suggests that we need to be involved in public life, to serve in whatever way we feel we can best contribute.

I don’t know Father Jenkins personally, though I admire the institution that he is leading. But, in the words of St. John Vianney, “There is no such thing as a bad priest. Only priests from whom there has not been enough prayer.”

God bless.
Wow, it’s hard to know where to start! How can you possibly suggest that a Catholic Priest can sit on the board of an organization that promotes abortion and contraception?

I’m assuming that you know that Archbishop Raymond Burke is the prefect of the Supreme Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura, the highest court in the Roman Catholic Church. Have you not read his comments regarding the invitation of President Obama to Notre Dame? Have you not read his address to the National Catholic Prayer Breakfast in Washington, D.C. on Friday. Below is a link, you should read this before reading the rest of my post:

cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=47912

In his remarks on Notre Dame and in his address to the Prayer Breakfast he said,
“But,” said Burke, “there is no element of the common good, no morally good practice, which a candidate may promote and to which a voter may be dedicated, which could justify voting for a candidate who also endorses and supports the deliberate killing of the unborn, euthanasia or the recognition of a same-sex relationship as a legal marriage. The respect for the inviolable dignity of innocent human life and for the integrity of marriage and the family are so fundamental to the common good that they cannot be subordinated to any other cause, no matter how good it may be.”
These sentiments have been detailed by Archbishop Burke in other writings and reiterated time and again by the Vatican and other bishops. Your notion that it is OK for Fr. Jenkins to participate in Millenium Promise, in the face of Church teachings, is just plain sad.

The Archbishop encourages Catholics to participate in politics and makes it clear in his writings how Catholic politicians are obliged to behave and vote.

With respect to voters he said,
“An important part of our moral reflection must include a clear understanding of the principles regarding cooperation in evil, especially by the act of voting."
If you explore this area you will find that a faithful Catholic cannot in good conscience vote for a politician who supports intrinsically evil policies when there is a less evil option available.

Finally, I agree we should pray for Fr. Jenkins but he, by his behavior, is spreading serious scandle and error. These are grave matters. He should disciplined and removed from Notre Dame and Millenium Promise immediately. Priests are men too and can be evil.

We should keep all of our priests in our prayers…no priest…no Eucharist…no Church.

God Bless,

Iowa Mike

PS This isn’t a matter of debate for the Church’s teaching is clear…this is a matter of faithful obedience.
 
Wow, it’s hard to know where to start! How can you possibly suggest that a Catholic Priest can sit on the board of an organization that promotes abortion and contraception?
Well first, the organization doesn’t promote abortion. The newslink in the OP said that several of the board members were pro-abortion. But if the organization promotes abortion just by virtue of Angelina Jolie being on the board of directors, then it also promotes pro-life Catholic social teachings by virtue of Jenkins’ presence. I think it does neither. I’ll try to make my point, as follows.
I’m assuming that you know that Archbishop Raymond Burke is the prefect of the Supreme Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura, the highest court in the Roman Catholic Church. Have you not read his comments regarding the invitation of President Obama to Notre Dame? Have you not read his address to the National Catholic Prayer Breakfast in Washington, D.C. on Friday. Below is a link, you should read this before reading the rest of my post:
I wasn’t familiar with Archbishop Raymond Burke, but I did read the link you posted, and I agree with it. I think Catholics should vote pro-life. But we’re not debating the merits of voting for a particular politician. We’re discussing whether a Catholic can legitimately hold a position of influence in an organization that promotes contraception. And I think he can.
These sentiments have been detailed by Archbishop Burke in other writings and reiterated time and again by the Vatican and other bishops. Your notion that it is OK for Fr. Jenkins to participate in Millenium Promise, in the face of Church teachings, is just plain sad.
The Archbishop encourages Catholics to participate in politics and makes it clear in his writings how Catholic politicians are obliged to behave and vote.
With respect to voters he said, If you explore this area you will find that a faithful Catholic cannot in good conscience vote for a politician who supports intrinsically evil policies when there is a less evil option available.
I think you may have misunderstood my analogy. When I referred to a Catholic politician, I was suggesting that the person in question would be faithful. In other words, the politician already is pro-life, for the sanctity of marriage, etc. My question is, can such a person participate in a system which is fundamentally flawed? After all, the American government has serious problems. But should Catholics shy away from public service because of these issues? Or could a faithful Catholic, after prayer and reflection, decide to run for office anyway?

Let’s look at this another way: What if, by Fr. Jenkins’ presence and voting power on the board of directors, he was able to prevent the Millenium Promise from supporting abortion? What if his vote was the deciding factor? What if, by Fr. Jenkins’ participation in the Millenium Promise, he was able to prevent a very influential and wealthy NGO from presenting abortion as a legitimate option to vulnerable mothers in sub-saharan Africa? In a situation like this, I would consider it highly irresponsible for him to resign the board.

I’m not asking you or Father Jenkins or anyone else to subordinate the dignity of human life to other issues. I consider the life issues to be of the utmost importance. I am as pro-life and pro-marriage as they come. What I’m arguing is that, just as a Catholic can legitimately choose to run for office, so too can a Catholic legitimately choose to participate in a system that does good, even if the system has serious flaws with its approach. This is especially true if the Catholic, by his participation, is able to enact positive change and do good. Note that I am not suggesting that a person can do evil so that good may come of it. I’m saying that being on a board of directors for an organization whose stated mission is to eliminate poverty is not an evil act.
Finally, I agree we should pray for Fr. Jenkins but he, by his behavior, is spreading serious scandle and error. These are grave matters. He should disciplined and removed from Notre Dame and Millenium Promise immediately. Priests are men too and can be evil.
I think that Fr. Jenkins showed serious lack of judgement by deciding to honor President Obama with an honorary degree. Perhaps his pride has kept him from doing what he knows is right, or maybe he truly believes what he’s doing is acceptable. Either way, I think his decision was in violation of the US Bishops 2004 statement on Catholic Universities. That said, it’s uncharitable to say that someone is “evil” and I certainly wouldn’t characterize Fr. Jenkins as such.

God Bless.
 
Well first, the organization doesn’t promote abortion. The newslink in the OP said that several of the board members were pro-abortion. But if the organization promotes abortion just by virtue of Angelina Jolie being on the board of directors, then it also promotes pro-life Catholic social teachings by virtue of Jenkins’ presence. I think it does neither. I’ll try to make my point, as follows.

I wasn’t familiar with Archbishop Raymond Burke, but I did read the link you posted, and I agree with it. I think Catholics should vote pro-life. But we’re not debating the merits of voting for a particular politician. We’re discussing whether a Catholic can legitimately hold a position of influence in an organization that promotes contraception. And I think he can.

I think you may have misunderstood my analogy. When I referred to a Catholic politician, I was suggesting that the person in question would be faithful. In other words, the politician already is pro-life, for the sanctity of marriage, etc. My question is, can such a person participate in a system which is fundamentally flawed? After all, the American government has serious problems. But should Catholics shy away from public service because of these issues? Or could a faithful Catholic, after prayer and reflection, decide to run for office anyway?

Let’s look at this another way: What if, by Fr. Jenkins’ presence and voting power on the board of directors, he was able to prevent the Millenium Promise from supporting abortion? What if his vote was the deciding factor? What if, by Fr. Jenkins’ participation in the Millenium Promise, he was able to prevent a very influential and wealthy NGO from presenting abortion as a legitimate option to vulnerable mothers in sub-saharan Africa? In a situation like this, I would consider it highly irresponsible for him to resign the board.

I’m not asking you or Father Jenkins or anyone else to subordinate the dignity of human life to other issues. I consider the life issues to be of the utmost importance. I am as pro-life and pro-marriage as they come. What I’m arguing is that, just as a Catholic can legitimately choose to run for office, so too can a Catholic legitimately choose to participate in a system that does good, even if the system has serious flaws with its approach. This is especially true if the Catholic, by his participation, is able to enact positive change and do good. Note that I am not suggesting that a person can do evil so that good may come of it. I’m saying that being on a board of directors for an organization whose stated mission is to eliminate poverty is not an evil act.

I think that Fr. Jenkins showed serious lack of judgement by deciding to honor President Obama with an honorary degree. Perhaps his pride has kept him from doing what he knows is right, or maybe he truly believes what he’s doing is acceptable. Either way, I think his decision was in violation of the US Bishops 2004 statement on Catholic Universities. That said, it’s uncharitable to say that someone is “evil” and I certainly wouldn’t characterize Fr. Jenkins as such.

God Bless.
After this post I will be silent on this issue because the Church’s teachings on this matter are clear, available to those that want to understand them and, therefore, eliminate the need for debate.

Millennium Promise is, contrary to your denial, pro-abortion and pro-contraception. All one has to do is get up on their web-site and check out their writings, review their association with the UN, other associations etc. To say they do not advocate for abortion and contraception rights for women is misleading.

I can’t take anyone seriously that would assert that while the board members of an organization actively advocate for abortion and contraception programs, the organization itself does not.

The Church teaches:
  1. Politicians may not vote for policies or laws that violate Natural Law or are intrinsically evil.
  2. Catholics may not vote for a politician that supports policies or laws that violate Natural Law or are intrinsically evil if another option exists.
  3. Politicans who support policies or laws that violate Natural Law or are intrinsically evil and Catholics who vote for them are guilty of cooperating in evil.
  4. There are no proportionate reasons that rise to the evil of abortion, contraception, ethanasia, same sex marriage, stem cell research or cloning. You simply cannot vote or support someone who advocates for these things because they have a program you favor that fights racism, hunger, etc.
The writings of Archbishop Chaput and Archbishop Burke explain the above in detail. If you don’t think these teachings apply to those who support or participate in an organization that advocates policies and laws that violate Natural Law or are intrinsically evil, further discourse is pointless.

For a priest or any Catholic to participate in any advocacy group that conflicts with core Church teachings is unconscionable. Not only should Fr. Jenkins resign from the board of Millennium Promise but I believe he should be removed from public ministry for a period of prayer and reflection. These scandles are just the latest…I can remember writing to Fr. Jenkins urging him not to host the Vagina Monologues on campus. He did so anyway and he did so after rejecting his bishops call not to.

The Church urges Catholics to engage in politics, hold office etc. but expects them to vote, advocate and behave in conformance with Church teachings. So, in answer to your questions, yes…a Catholic can run for office.

God Bless,

Iowa Mike
 
Well - this is no surprise.

CLICK HERE

Fr. John Jenkins of Notre Dame is on the board of directors of The Millennium Promise, an organization comprised of government organizations and non-government organizations that promote and support abortion and contraception.

The list of board members

PewSitter article

This man seriously needs prayers.

~Liza
So I guess this was the big news alluded to yesterday… IF it’s true, it’s a bombshell.
 
So I guess this was the big news alluded to yesterday… IF it’s true, it’s a bombshell.
How is it not true? His name is listed on their website as being on the board of directors. Unless someone hacked into the site and put his name in there, I can’t see how it is anything less than true.

🤷

~Liza
 
From the Millenium Villages Handbook

millenniumvillages.org/docs/MVP_Handbook_complete_18jun08.pdf%between%
Abortion services: In countries where abortion is legal, safe abortion services in controlled settings by skilled practitioners should be established. In villages with a nearby district center with sound surgical capacity, these services can be referred. However, in instances where no district center or alternate post for safe abortion practices is accessible, abortion services can be offered at the village level, provided that surgical capacity exists.
Kaboom. Given the Vatican’s monumental struggle with the U.N. to prevent abortion services earmarked for developing nations, this is not going to go over well in Rome.
 
Mike, you keep restating that which I agree with. I agree that Catholic politicians must not vote in favor of abortion, embryonic stem cell research and the like. I agree that ending poverty and racism are not more important than ending abortion, and must not be subordinate to them. What I’m arguing is that a Catholic who acts on the board of directors of an organization is not personally responsible for all the decisions that the organization makes.

You have said that Catholics can engage in politics, hold office, etc. so long as they always act in conformance with Church teaching. I agree. Furthermore, I’d argue that a Catholic engaging in politics is not responsible for decisions that his government makes when he himself opposes them and votes against them. Herein lies the crux of our dispute.

Consider this. The United States Senate is responsible for reviewing bills and providing oversight for the executive office. It is comprised of two senators from each state, each person represents different views, goals, ideology, etc. Let’s say a bill comes up for vote: Should the US use federal money to pay for condoms to be distributed in public schools? The Senators debate. A vote is taken. 99 to 1. The vote in overwhelmingly in favor of using money to promote condom usage. The one Catholic politician, however, voted according to his informed conscience. He voted no. He even tried to dissuade his colleagues, though unsuccessful. Is he responsible when the bill is passed and federal money is spent promoting condom use to teenagers? No. Would it be better if he were to resign from the body, an organization that now formally supports contraception? No. On the contrary, I think we need more faithful Catholic politicians in the Senate. How else will things change?

The Board of Directors is a body of individuals charged with ensuring the financial health of an organization and advising on key issues. As a board member, Jenkins has one voice and one vote. The other twenty six board members, likewise. If the board members were to convene and vote on an issue such as “should we promote condom usage in India?” then Jenkins would only be responsible for the organization’s decision to do so if he himself voted in favor of or showed support for the proposition in any way. Now I have no idea how Jenkins votes or debates in these board meetings, but I think it’s reasonable, and certainly more charitable, to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he’s being faithful to Catholic teaching.

God bless.
 
How is it not true? His name is listed on their website as being on the board of directors. Unless someone hacked into the site and put his name in there, I can’t see how it is anything less than true.

🤷

~Liza
Oh, I don’t doubt it, but sometimes sensational developments turn out to be bad information passed along. I wanted to verify the actual position of the organization, and I did. (see post above).
 
Mike, you keep restating that which I agree with. I agree that Catholic politicians must not vote in favor of abortion, embryonic stem cell research and the like. I agree that ending poverty and racism are not more important than ending abortion, and must not be subordinate to them. What I’m arguing is that a Catholic who acts on the board of directors of an organization is not personally responsible for all the decisions that the organization makes.

You have said that Catholics can engage in politics, hold office, etc. so long as they always act in conformance with Church teaching. I agree. Furthermore, I’d argue that a Catholic engaging in politics is not responsible for decisions that his government makes when he himself opposes them and votes against them. Herein lies the crux of our dispute.

Consider this. The United States Senate is responsible for reviewing bills and providing oversight for the executive office. It is comprised of two senators from each state, each person represents different views, goals, ideology, etc. Let’s say a bill comes up for vote: Should the US use federal money to pay for condoms to be distributed in public schools? The Senators debate. A vote is taken. 99 to 1. The vote in overwhelmingly in favor of using money to promote condom usage. The one Catholic politician, however, voted according to his informed conscience. He voted no. He even tried to dissuade his colleagues, though unsuccessful. Is he responsible when the bill is passed and federal money is spent promoting condom use to teenagers? No. Would it be better if he were to resign from the body, an organization that now formally supports contraception? No. On the contrary, I think we need more faithful Catholic politicians in the Senate. How else will things change?

The Board of Directors is a body of individuals charged with ensuring the financial health of an organization and advising on key issues. As a board member, Jenkins has one voice and one vote. The other twenty six board members, likewise. If the board members were to convene and vote on an issue such as “should we promote condom usage in India?” then Jenkins would only be responsible for the organization’s decision to do so if he himself voted in favor of or showed support for the proposition in any way. Now I have no idea how Jenkins votes or debates in these board meetings, but I think it’s reasonable, and certainly more charitable, to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he’s being faithful to Catholic teaching.

God bless.
You are defending the indefensible.

God Bless,

Iowa Mike
 
Did anyone else think that Michael Vorris sounded obnoxious in that ad? I think there’s a way to make your point without being disrespectful to a Catholic priest.

But that aside, I don’t think Catholics should necessarily avoid holding positions of influence in organizations that are not in line with Catholic teaching,
Au contraire. Being “not in line with” Church teaching, and facilitating intrinsic evils are two very different levels of gravity.

Allow me. If a bunch of neo-Nazis decided to set up a “humanitarian” organization whose goal is to end world hunger, and one of the methods they wish to employ is to reduce the population by promoting the extermination of the Jews, would it be okay for a Catholic priest to sit on that board?
 
The Millenium Promise is not a “pro-abortion group.” It is a anti-poverty group that works with many charities, including Catholic Relief and others. Reviewing their website, my impression is that Notre Dame has been involved in projects to reduce malaria and tuberculosis, improve civil engineering, establish sustainable farming, etc. The fact that some participants in the programs also provide abortion counseling does not make Father Jenkins a board member of a pro-abortion group. If Catholic charities never worked with groups that favor abortion or contraception it would be very difficult to work effectively in Africa and South America. To suggest that working with this group make Jenkins pro-abortion is like suggesting that being American makes one pro-abortion. Being involved with an organization that believes in legal abortion (like both the Millenium Project and the United States) does not make one pro-abortion.
 
The Millenium Promise is not a “pro-abortion group.” It is a anti-poverty group that works with many charities, including Catholic Relief and others. Reviewing their website, my impression is that Notre Dame has been involved in projects to reduce malaria and tuberculosis, improve civil engineering, establish sustainable farming, etc. The fact that some participants in the programs also provide abortion counseling does not make Father Jenkins a board member of a pro-abortion group. If Catholic charities never worked with groups that favor abortion or contraception it would be very difficult to work effectively in Africa and South America. To suggest that working with this group make Jenkins pro-abortion is like suggesting that being American makes one pro-abortion. Being involved with an organization that believes in legal abortion (like both the Millenium Project and the United States) does not make one pro-abortion.
Twisted logic my friend. First your facts are wrong…read earlier posts. Second and lastly a Catholic priest cannot sit on the board of a pro-contraception or pro-abortion organization without spreading scandle.

God Bless,

Iowa Mike
 
The Millenium Promise is not a “pro-abortion group.” It is a anti-poverty group that works with many charities, including Catholic Relief and others. Reviewing their website, my impression is that Notre Dame has been involved in projects to reduce malaria and tuberculosis, improve civil engineering, establish sustainable farming, etc. The fact that some participants in the programs also provide abortion counseling does not make Father Jenkins a board member of a pro-abortion group. If Catholic charities never worked with groups that favor abortion or contraception it would be very difficult to work effectively in Africa and South America. To suggest that working with this group make Jenkins pro-abortion is like suggesting that being American makes one pro-abortion. Being involved with an organization that believes in legal abortion (like both the Millenium Project and the United States) does not make one pro-abortion.
Their own handbook states a mission to facilitate abortions!

As I stated above, what if one of their preferred methods to end hunger and poverty was to advocate extermination of African Jews under the heading of “population control”? Okay or not okay to sit on that board?

The analogy of American citizenship and legalized abortion is off the mark. Patriotism is meritorious and obliges the citizen to fight for basic human rights. Volunteering to sit on the board of a (sic) charitable organization that advocates intrinsic evil is indefensible. Since Father Jenkins has not taken advantage of this position to advocate against their mission to facilitate abortions, his silence can only be interpreted as consent.
 
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