Fr. Kramer, FSSP, on Tradition (short video)

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I saw this on the Rorate blog. Here’s the direct youtube link:

youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZLeomOG3bN8#!

Fr. Kramer is the FSSP priest assigned to the personal parish for the EF in Rome.

He makes some interesting points, especially about the younger generation’s growing attraction to Tradition. He also says this (2:50):
The old Mass, and the Latin of the old Mass, helps both the priest and the laity understand a lot more, I think, about the theology of the Church right back to the 3rd century.
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Interesting video. The part which really stuck out at me was not the statements about the liturgy as they focus on the EF of the Mass, but rather the statement about the younger generation being able to handle clearer teaching. I agree with this wholeheartedly.

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EcceAgnusDei said:
I saw this on the Rorate blog. Here’s the direct youtube link:

youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZLeomOG3bN8#!

Fr. Kramer is the FSSP priest assigned to the personal parish for the EF in Rome.

He makes some interesting points, especially about the younger generation’s growing attraction to Tradition. He also says this (2:50):
The old Mass, and the Latin of the old Mass, helps both the priest and the laity understand a lot more, I think, about the theology of the Church right back to the 3rd century.
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That is as long as they can understand Latin.

While the Liturgy is a place where one can get some catechesis, it is neither the ideal place nor the main place to recieve such.
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A lack of understanding Latin is always thrown into this. One doesn’t need to “speak” or “understand” Latin like a scholar to participate in the EF Mass. The missals are translated with Latin on the left, English, Spanish, Farsi, or whatever, on the right.

When I was a pre-Vatican II child, my missal had Latin on the left, English on the right. Beside me sat my Abuelita with her missal, Latin on the left, Spanish on the right.🙂

When I was stationed in Germany, I wished the Mass had been in Latin, because I was unable to follow along in German. I could have had a missal with Latin on the left, English on the right.

By the way, almost always the Epistle and the Gospel are re-read in English from the pulpit, so even if I don’t have a missalette with me, I do know what is being preached. And the homilies were always given in the vernacular!
 
Great video. Glad to see tradition is growing and the clergy are realizing it. I could not help but wonder how Fr. Kramer would have gotten attacked on here at CAF for saying what he thought on video.
 
I pray this is so. I was chatting with a CAF’er recently and asked where are all the young people that are supposed to be so gung-ho about the EF? I don’t see them in NYC. Is it because NYC is the bastion of liberalism?
 
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I pray this is so. I was chatting with a CAF’er recently and asked where are all the young people that are supposed to be so gung-ho about the EF? I don’t see them in NYC. Is it because NYC is the bastion of liberalism?
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Perhaps. Most young “Catholics” are apostates or heretics. The faithful few that remain go to the Latin Mass, including myself. The Novus Ordo’s have next to no young people, most are baby boomers and older.
 
ImmaculataFides said:
The Novus Ordo’s have next to no young people, most are baby boomers and older.
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This isn’t even remotely true. The vast majority of people in the world do not have access to the EF of the Mass near them. Yet, somehow there are still Catholics under the age of 60 to be found.
 
jwinch2 said:
This isn’t even remotely true. The vast majority of people in the world do not have access to the EF of the Mass near them. Yet, somehow there are still Catholics under the age of 60 to be found.
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I think it’s pretty clear he wasn’t attempting to make a global statement, although he didn’t restrict his assertion grammatically.

Such statements should always be read with an implied “in my neck of the woods” or “in my experience” as preface.
 
I agree with Fr. Kramer in that the generation that grew up with no stability in the home crave discipline in their lives. I know that from my own personal experience I grew up with my mother being a non-practicing Catholic and my dad not having any religion at all.

At ages 9 and 10 I was going to the church across the street from my house all by myself because my soul was drawing me into the Catholic Church whereas the adults in my life couldn’t be bothered with church. I sense this same “being drawn in to the Catholic Church” for many other people my age who also grew up in instability.

The Holy Spirit is working in wonderous ways for my generation and the younger generation…

God bless and Happy 4th Sunday of Easter!
 
wasserfall said:
I think it’s pretty clear he wasn’t attempting to make a global statement, although he didn’t restrict his assertion grammatically.

Such statements should always be read with an implied “in my neck of the woods” or “in my experience” as preface.
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I disagree. This is a forum where we are basically limited to the written word. The only way that works is if people actually write what they mean, and not rely on others to project their own assumptions onto their text.
 
If Easter is the 1st Sunday of the Easter Season, today is the 4th. Thus, 4th Sunday of Easter for the OF. The EF seems to keep tract of Sundays after a big feast. Thus the 3rd Sunday after Easter in the EF today.
When the OF returns to Ordianary Time after Pentecost, the EF will have Sundays after Pentecost.
 
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If Easter is the 1st Sunday of the Easter Season, today is the 4th. Thus, 4th Sunday of Easter for the OF. The EF seems to keep tract of Sundays after a big feast. Thus the 3rd Sunday after Easter in the EF today.
When the OF returns to Ordianary Time after Pentecost, the EF will have Sundays after Pentecost.
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Ah I see. Thanks.
 
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