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vern_humphrey
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Of course not – you have a need to attack those who disagree with you.
You can do that without attacking those with whom you disagree.
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vern_humphrey
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Thank heaven!I agree with you. This thread has digressed to such a point that it’s become utterly useless other than that I’ve placed estesbob and vern on my “ignore” list.
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Ani_Ibi
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What am I? Chopped liver? :crying:
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sprout
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sorry, didn’t mean to make you feel left out.
you wouldn’t happen to be the middle child would you?
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mapleoak
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What about me? Wasn’t I good enough to make the list?
I was represented as not caring about children. Doesn’t that qualify? :doh2:
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sprout
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I have no issue with those who can debate in an honest way.What about me? Wasn’t I good enough to make the list?
I was represented as not caring about children. Doesn’t that qualify? :doh2:
My decision to “ignore” those other two was directly because they were intentionally mischaracterizing me as someone who is “more upset that someone might see the picture a dead baby then there {sic} are of the fact that baby is dead the first place” or that I “minimize the indiscriminate killing of 1.2 million children a year.” I simply won’t tolerate such false accusations and false witness. It’s a waste of my time to even read such duplicity.
Besides, I had noticed in other threads that I’m not alone in my decision to ignore one of these individuals.
So until such a time as you decide to bear false witness against me I will continue to read your posts and debate you. Lucky you! eh?
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estesbob
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Hopefully nobody will post graphic pictures of chopped liver. we wouldnt want to offend anyone, now would we?
It is a sad say when you see people who care more about offending children than children being killed. Makes on wonder what their real view on abortion are.
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vern_humphrey
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But nobody accused you of bombing abortion clinics. So I get first prize for the Most Maligned. <Neener, neener, neener>What about me? Wasn’t I good enough to make the list?
I was represented as not caring about children. Doesn’t that qualify? :doh2:
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Mag_Uidhir
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Sorry wasn’t meant to get at you, just expressing my opinion, and that is how some people get their knickers in a twist over a picture because a child who probably is too young to understand in the first place may be traumatized.
I’ll bet I could show a picture to my 3-half year old grandchild, or his 5 year old sister and they’d say "what is it grandad " ?
Some are too young to understand, and if they’ve reached the age of reason, then maybe they should know, I was horrified about hell, no-one kept that off me.
And keeping the hell knowledge away from people won’t stop them from falling into it, and burying our children’s heads in the sand won’t condition them for the real world, which isn’t pretty when it comes to the murder of children.
And as you know my opinion on the subject, then this shall be my last, we all know where we stand.
Bye !
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Nino
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I recall in the mornings at school when a group of teens would walk into our school. from their bus and walking abreast …some 6 or so…stomp down the hall…forcing all in front of them to reach for the wall…I never did…holding onto my one spot I would simply place my left hand on my left hip and tense…always one would bang into me …stumble a bit…then yell…How Rude!..this is the childish comments we get here…like the demonic aclu …if you dont again give us our way…then comes the domino theory…such and such will happen so there…when ever a Catholic on this site defends a moral teaching various comments are tossed about…'gee,what christian charity…or…how rude…or gee, I am only asking I thought this was a polite site boo hoo etc…also I notice the graphic images of dogs etc in the latest outrage of professional athletes acting more like thugs then wealthy o-wrist-ta-crats!.. Nino
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KarenNC
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estesbob
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I would not be too concerned. This is a common tactic in any discussion forum, When one’s arguments fail they first start by demanding apologies from those who disagree with them, then putting those whose arguments they can address on the ignore list, and then stopping off in a huff. I wish we could see half as much enthusiasm towards ending abortion as we have seen in this thread criticizing those working to do it.
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estesbob
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In your opinion. But of course those of us who actually work in the pro-life ministry know these images can be effective. The idea that somehow these images trouble young children is ancedotal at best at best. I would suggest you spend some time assisting sidewalk counsleors and after you better understand the issue get back with us,
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Joe_Kelley
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I recall hearing an old guideline for lawyers. When the law is on your side pound on the judge, when the facts are on your side pound on the jury, when neither is on your side pound on the table. We seem to have a number of table pounders.
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KarenNC
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Might that be because “is abortion wrong” is not the topic of the thread? Or that we are not (presumably) on this thread talking to people who perform abortions, but are decidedly on this thread talking to people who choose to parade tractor trailer sized graphic color photos of mutilated, dismembered bloody corpses of babies indiscriminately in front of young children?
Having done something inappropriate for 25 years does not suddenly make it acceptable, desirable or good. Nor am I willing to adopt a laissez-faire attitude toward something that I believe is actively detrimental to young children, regardless of your goals for doing so.
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KarenNC
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Then it shouldn’t be hard to find at least one study that says showing tractor trailer sized graphic images of mutilitated bloodcovered dismembered corpses of babies to children ages 2-7 without their parents’ permission has a neutral or positive effect on those children, should it?
Or that doing so is more effective in teaching them to value the lives of children before birth than showing them pictures of normally developing babies?
Or that doing so is more effective than other ways of teaching them that it is wrong to hurt others?
Or that showing these pictures in ways that knowingly allow access to young children is more effective than showing them is ways that do not?
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boppaid
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Vern, honestly, by picking bits and pieces of posts and responding to them seperately like this, I wonder if you read them as intended…as a whole. You accuse the poster in question of believing that murdering doctors and using graphic photos are the same even when you READ IN THE VERY NEXT SENTENCE “Not saying that showing pics is as bad as murder”, to which you respond “I’m glad you added that – but it would have been better if you had not taken that tack in the first place.”.
If you read the post in its entirety as written, you would see that he did not “take that tack in the first place”, as he IMMEDIATELY clarified to avoid your misunderstanding him.
Either you enjoy twisting people’s intended meanings to prove a point you already have made up in your head, or you have trouble comprehending the “main idea” of a paragraph. (And I’m not questioning your intelligence…but you really don’t need to keep trying to make yourself sound so. I don’t know how many times I’ve read, “When I was running for Congress…”
)This is not meant to be an attack on you. I think you are a good man. But I think you try too hard to appear a certain way on this board, and it kind of messes up your credibilty. Further, I also think you do twist people’s words to prove your point which is so uncharitable, even if it’s what what you are intending to do…another way of losing credibility.
I am pointing this out to you, to help you understand some people’s annoyance in this thread. I am sure you don’t realize this is how you sometimes come off, and you probably don’t even realize that you are twisting people’s words. I’m sure you wouldn’t do so intentionally, as I believe you are a good person. I’m trying to be charitable to you, in pointing it out. Hope it helps, and I sincerely hope you take this advice in the spirit it is given.
Please reread the post you quoted, and **really read **what he is saying.
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boppaid
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This is truly an unfair statement. There are ways to combat abortion without offending children. It is not an either/or thing.
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boppaid
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I missed this. Who accused you of bombing clincs? That is terrible!But nobody accused you of bombing abortion clinics. So I get first prize for the Most Maligned. <Neener, neener, neener>
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