Mrs SThere are more reputable commentators than the late Fr Brown.
Sorry, his failing are serious enough to either avoid him, or rely on others to point out those failings.
One interesting source is
**LECTURE: What Have they Done With God’s Word?
Robert Sungenis, Ph.D.
**A live video recording of Robert’s speech at the International Conference on Biblical Inerrancy. Learn why there are so many problems in the Church today. It all starts with a dilution of Scripture’s authority. Your eyes will be opened.
on DVD from
I have this DVD. Unfortunately, Sungenis is simply out of his league in his “critique” of Brown, and his lecture merely selects portions of the New Jerome Commentary out of their contexts and applies Sungenis’s stenuously fundamentalistic approach to Scripture in an effort to discredit Brown as a “liberal” scholar (i.e, “liberal” = “that with which Sungenis disagrees”). As a result, his evaluation is only likely to be convincing to an audience which is itself as biblically ill-informed as is Sungenis himself. (You might recall that this is the self-proclaimed apologist who has written a two-volume work proclaiming that “Galileo was wrong,” and that the earth is indeed the center of the solar system!) While I can generally recommend his “Not By…” books, his scientific opinions, as well as his opinion of biblical scholarship, strike one as simply uninfomed and factually naive.One interesting source is
LECTURE: What Have they Done With God’s Word?
Robert Sungenis, Ph.D.
Only if one possesses no scholarly frame of reference by which to judge Sungenis’s own ill-informed opinions regarding Brown’s scholarship.Your eyes will be opened.
In addition, his “teaching” on scripture has influenced way too many college grads. One in particular became the “Faith Formation Director” at Univ Of Mich Student Chapel.
“Only if one possesses no scholarly frame of reference by which to judge Sungenis’s own ill-informed opinions regarding Brown’s scholarship” (Post #6 above).As for Sungenis…he is spot on with Brown.
Again, they’re only likely to seem convincing to those who are already predisposed to to a Protestant Fundamentalist-style approach to the Bible. To those who know no better, faulty argumentation often has the appearance of sound criticism.Just do a search at this site… there is lots of posts to discuss the Brown doctrines.
Not hardly.Mrs S
Isn’t Bob Sungenis a sedevacantist?
predisposed to to a Protestant Fundamentalist-style approach to the Bible. To those who know no better, faulty argumentation often has the appearance of sound criticism.already
A question buffalo. You continually post as rebuttal someone else’s rebuttal. Have you ever read anything by Fr. Brown? I mean its okay to just site others who criticise what someone else says, but if you’ve never read them, then it appears you just seek out apologetic criticism and that’s your answer. That seems a bit dishonest to me. You are apparently disagreeing because you have a differernt theological viewpoint so its not necessary to read them at all? This of course is fair, but should be stated.
What would you have us do buffalo? Just let the church tell us everything we should believe? Should they now pick my newspaper and tv shows? Clearly you suggest that we shouldn’t read things unless we are sure the Church approves. Is this what being in the image of God is all about? Just following orders? That always seems to be the jist of the ultra-conservatives. I guess I’m to ignore my mind in the service of God?This is an important encyclical:
ENCYCLICAL OF POPE PIUS X
ON THE DOCTRINES
OF THE MODERNISTS
After reading this encyclical should Raymond Brown’s Impramatur and Nihil Obstat be rescinded?
No, he should be considered for sainthood. Thank God the church’s position on scripture has continued to grow beyond such narrow views (but it is good of you to remind us how far we’ve come). Too bad Pius X didn’t get to read Pius XII’s groundbreaking encyclical on biblical studies that gave Catholic biblical scholars the green light to employ all scientific means possible to explore the Bible in order to expound its meaning, Divino Afflante Spiritu.This is an important encyclical:
ENCYCLICAL OF POPE PIUS X
ON THE DOCTRINES
OF THE MODERNISTS
After reading this encyclical should Raymond Brown’s Impramatur and Nihil Obstat be rescinded?
As the Pope said in his encyclical not all they teach is in error.A question buffalo. You continually post as rebuttal someone else’s rebuttal. Have you ever read anything by Fr. Brown? I mean its okay to just site others who criticise what someone else says, but if you’ve never read them, then it appears you just seek out apologetic criticism and that’s your answer. That seems a bit dishonest to me. You are apparently disagreeing because you have a differernt theological viewpoint so its not necessary to read them at all? This of course is fair, but should be stated.
As I stated, I never read a lot by him, but certainly i was assigned a few pages on a particular subject from a journal or something. I never remember reading anything that I thought was incorrect. Apparently he was considered an important scholar by the priest and nuns who were teaching me. I have nowhere seen you express your own personal experience with Brown and the reasons why you dismiss him.
His higher criticsm and hermeneutics of suspicion. Separating the constant Tradition from his studies does not produce good fruit.A question buffalo. You continually post as rebuttal someone else’s rebuttal. Have you ever read anything by Fr. Brown? I mean its okay to just site others who criticise what someone else says, but if you’ve never read them, then it appears you just seek out apologetic criticism and that’s your answer. That seems a bit dishonest to me. You are apparently disagreeing because you have a differernt theological viewpoint so its not necessary to read them at all? This of course is fair, but should be stated.
As I stated, I never read a lot by him, but certainly i was assigned a few pages on a particular subject from a journal or something. I never remember reading anything that I thought was incorrect. Apparently he was considered an important scholar by the priest and nuns who were teaching me. I have nowhere seen you express your own personal experience with Brown and the reasons why you dismiss him.
The truth has to be the highest importance.What would you have us do buffalo? Just let the church tell us everything we should believe? Should they now pick my newspaper and tv shows? Clearly you suggest that we shouldn’t read things unless we are sure the Church approves. Is this what being in the image of God is all about? Just following orders? That always seems to be the jist of the ultra-conservatives. I guess I’m to ignore my mind in the service of God?
He gave a cautionary green light. Nowhere does it state one can completely reinterpret the Bible outside of the constant understanding and teaching of the Church. In other words the bible cannot be taken out of context. It has to be studied in light of the complete Bible and Tradition.No, he should be considered for sainthood. Thank God the church’s position on scripture has continued to grow beyond such narrow views (but it is good of you to remind us how far we’ve come). Too bad Pius X didn’t get to read Pius XII’s groundbreaking encyclical on biblical studies that gave Catholic biblical scholars the green light to employ all scientific means possible to explore the Bible in order to expound its meaning, Divino Afflante Spiritu.