Franciscan woman priest?

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Neofight didn’t ask - he jumped to judgement - but if anyone is interested, I’ll explain what I meant (tho I did think I was clear).

St. Francis was quite clear that we are to obey the Pope. Non-Catholic Franciscans say they are “following Christ in the footsteps of St. Francis,” but they aren’t really. They refuse to be Catholic and obey the Pope. Which is why I am annoyed by them.

It would be more honest if they said they were sort-of following St. Francis. Which is how I see them.

Of course, no Franciscan - me for sure - follows St. Francis perfectly, but becoming Catholic seems like an easy & straight forward thing to do. On the rare occasions I’ve met non-Catholic Franciscans, I feel like asking them point-blank why they have not become Catholic.
 
Bonnie said:
Neofight didn’t ask - he jumped to judgement - but if anyone is interested, I’ll explain what I meant (tho I did think I was clear).

St. Francis was quite clear that we are to obey the Pope. Non-Catholic Franciscans say they are “following Christ in the footsteps of St. Francis,” but they aren’t really. They refuse to be Catholic and obey the Pope. Which is why I am annoyed by them.

It would be more honest if they said they were sort-of following St. Francis. Which is how I see them.

Of course, no Franciscan - me for sure - follows St. Francis perfectly, but becoming Catholic seems like an easy & straight forward thing to do. On the rare occasions I’ve met non-Catholic Franciscans, I feel like asking them point-blank why they have not become Catholic.
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Yup!
 
Don_Ruggero said:
The Benedictines had been in England for just shy of a thousand years when England broke communion with Rome and their presence in England was at the very bedrock of the English Church. The Franciscans also had a vibrant presence in the English Church. These, together with more contemporary institutions for perfection, have expressions in worldwide Anglicanism. They are a very important presence in the Anglican Roman Catholic dialogues and they are important partners in ecumenical endeavours.

There are no ties, certainly, at the level of governance but there are warm and cordial relations – the Anglican Benedictines are always listed in the Annual Yearbook of the English Congregation of the Benedictine Confederation, for example.

The Franciscans are popular enough and present enough that one can never automatically presume, when one encounters something Franciscan in England that it is Roman Catholic, it very well may be Anglican.
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Thank you, Don Ruggero. I’m British but living abroad and very out of touch. I find it an encouraging sign that the two sides are able to get on so well together.
 
Speaking of Franciscans who were not Catholic, I am happy to share on this thread the incredible life and work of Father Paul of Graymoor and of Mother Lurana.

Father Paul was ordained an Episcopal priest and founded an institute of the Franciscan charism in the US Episcopal Church. He was seconded by Mother Lurana, who founded a community of vowed women Religious.

By God’s good grace, they were guided by the Holy Spirit to seek full communion with Rome, which was granted to them. It is an amazing story. Both Father Paul and Mother Lurana did untold good. Their lives impacted me and my ministry. The work they began continues where they started it, at Graymoor, New York, but in other places in the world, too. Father’s cause for beatification is advancing, happily.

It is a wonder to behold the work of the Lord and the operation of His grace…which can come about in ways we do not expect or foresee.

atonementfriars.org/
 
Bonnie said:
There are no Catholic validly ordained priests who are women. There are other religions that do have ministers & priests who are women, and the Church “recognizes” them.
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Oops, I meant to say “does not” recognize women priest. Pardon my typing. Sorry.
 
Bonnie said:
What - ask them? No, can’t figure out how to do it without seeming rude. Besides, I think I’ve met only 2 or 3 non-Catholic Franciscans in all the years I’ve been one.
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So, you are a Catholic Franciscan nun, Bonnie?

Mary Estelle, don’t worry, we all do a million glaring typos. Everyone knows what you meant. 😉
 
CCC 1577 “Only a baptized man (vir) validly receives sacred ordination.” The Lord Jesus chose men (viri) to form the college of the twelve apostles, and the apostles did the same when they chose collaborators to succeed them in their ministry. The college of bishops, with whom the priests are united in the priesthood, makes the college of the twelve an ever-present and ever-active reality until Christ’s return. The Church recognizes herself to be bound by this choice made by the Lord himself. For this reason the ordination of women is not possible."
 
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CCC 1577 “Only a baptized man (vir) validly receives sacred ordination.” The Lord Jesus chose men (viri) to form the college of the twelve apostles, and the apostles did the same when they chose collaborators to succeed them in their ministry. The college of bishops, with whom the priests are united in the priesthood, makes the college of the twelve an ever-present and ever-active reality until Christ’s return. The Church recognizes herself to be bound by this choice made by the Lord himself. For this reason the ordination of women is not possible."
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The woman, however, was an Anglican Franciscan…she was not Roman Catholic.
 
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