Fraud from Obamaphone program approaching 500 mill $

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You said the government has the responsibility to provide such things. Where does the constitution say the Federal government is responsible for such things?

This is just another example of our growing entitlement system.
I did not say the government has the responsibility. I was just explaining how the USA system works.
 
In our area, Comcast offers free wifi. I think it’s an hour a day with the option to buy hours as needed (you don’t need to be a Comcast customer). When we moved my wife was taking an online course and it saved the day. It wasn’t the fastest or most reliable but it’s better than nothing. Hopefully it’ll be expanded.
I think eventually some big tech company will suggest constant, free high speed internet connection all the time to everyone, its really the direction society is heading, with self driving cars coming out in 2018, it wont be long after until pretty much everything is switched over to run online or use internet to function in some way, and it will probably become mandatory at some point.
 
I think eventually some big tech company will suggest constant, free high speed internet connection all the time to everyone, its really the direction society is heading, with self driving cars coming out in 2018, it wont be long after until pretty much everything is switched over to run online or use internet to function in some way, and it will probably become mandatory at some point.
So much wrong in one post.

First, the big companies would LOVE to be REQUIREF to give everyone free phones & internet. Of course, nothing is free, cause the taxpayers will pay for it (and at an exorbitant price).

Second, regarding the driverless cars…should government provide those for free as well? Afterall, everyone needs cars to have jobs!
 
If the FCC is responsible for monitoring and auditing this program, they should not have outsourced it. I was not voicing an opinion on the program itself.
Yes, relying on phone companies to police themselves is a mistake. The “Independent Economic Household” provision has a legitimate use: when a person is residing in a homeless shelter or other group home, people unrelated to one another should be allowed to get service. However, the FCC hasn’t been verifying that people claiming to be an IEH actually are living in such a facility.

A verification program does exist, however it hasn’t been implemented. Why I don’t know. But expecting the fox to guard the henhouse is a mistake.

Here is a more detailed news article, including Commissioner Pai’s entire letter, can be read here:

thehill.com/policy/technology/282707-fcc-republican-raises-new-questions-about-phone-subsidy-fraud
 
So much wrong in one post.

First, the big companies would LOVE to be REQUIREF to give everyone free phones & internet. Of course, nothing is free, cause the taxpayers will pay for it (and at an exorbitant price).

Second, regarding the driverless cars…should government provide those for free as well? Afterall, everyone needs cars to have jobs!
A more robust public transportation system would do more good than giving free cars (autonomous or otherwise). As the cities get too expensive for average people to live and raise families, more and more are forced to live outside the city where all the jobs are so cars are required unless there is a commuter rail system. Boston is definitely moving in this direction. It’s very expensive and I expect it to get much worse. We would have a pretty good public transportation system except for the fact the infrastructure is crumbling resulting in frequent delays and other issues. Also, it should be fully socialized because as it stands now there is no accountability for anything the MBTA/Keolis does. Currently, the customers are left to suffer with no recourse.
 
NOTE: The FRAUD is approaching 500 million dollars a year. The tab for providing what would be assumed legitimate was not stated in the original report. Probably its another hidden secret!

If you were in charge of a business that acquired 500 million per year in fraud - you would be fired and most likely spending some time in a federal prison. Is that not happening anymore? How about robbing social security payments to recipients - no problem with that either? Would that be allowed to continue at 500 million per year? :hmmm:
 
NOTE: The FRAUD is approaching 500 million dollars a year. The tab for providing what would be assumed legitimate was not stated in the original report. Probably its another hidden secret!

If you were in charge of a business that acquired 500 million per year in fraud - you would be fired and most likely spending some time in a federal prison. Is that not happening anymore? How about robbing social security payments to recipients - no problem with that either? Would that be allowed to continue at 500 million per year? :hmmm:
With the state of the world right now, especially the US, would you expect anything else? We all know what happens when a person rejects God, the same can be said of a nation who does this too, naturally, when you go against Gods laws in favor of yours, and give in to all sorts of immorality and evil, of course things are going to get worse.

Greed is absolutely rampant in the US, whether it be the average Joe next door or the fortune 500 company in NYC, when there is so much greed in one place, fraud will be a big problem too.

I dont think any of this will get any better, and really it cant, until our nation starts recognizing Gods laws are more important that their own, Id love to hear my parish priest talk more about how greed is so prevalent and even encouraged in the world today, this is a HUGE problem that we are just gearing our kids to be the exact same way when they grow up.
 
Personally, I think the people who say a phone is not required or internet is not required (as they post on a internet forum) do not really know what it is like to not have a phone or internet access and try to find a job. Everything is so much slower and more complicated, so even if there are jobs, everyone else beats you to them because they can spot the good jobs at any time, not just in the time they happen to have gas money for their car, or bus fare, or be able to bum a ride (with no gas money) to the library, to use the internet, and then remember they left their resume flash drive at home, go back home, go back to the library, THEN look for jobs…you get the idea.

And no, it hasn’t been me. It’s my sister. But it happens. And she has a phone but no internet. Imagine not having a phone!

However, I am shocked at the lack of accountability and verification on the system, that is indeed a failure.
 
Internet, cell phones with cameras, audio, games, all the trappings of electronics in this day and age are amazing and we must be prepared to do without them. Sometimes they stop working - temporarily or …

Don’t depend exclusively on any of it.
 
Internet, cell phones with cameras, audio, games, all the trappings of electronics in this day and age are amazing and we must be prepared to do without them. Sometimes they stop working - temporarily or …

Don’t depend exclusively on any of it.
If you look at the numbers, cell phone, internet being as popular as they are today, in reality it has not been this way for THAT long, most people started getting cell phones around 2001-2002, and really only the past 10 yrs have they become so deeply ingrained in our daily lives.

If we had an EMP attack and all these things were gone tomorrow, I dont think it would take long for people to forget them and go back to the way things were before, after all, everyone survived just fine and thrived without electronic devices for centuries.
 
Probably not my generation. My entire adult life I have had no phone but a cell phone. My entire adult life I have used and depended on the internet for my college education, graduate school, TTC, pregnancy, childrens growth and deveopment, their doctors. The internet is what led me to become Catholic, without it I would not have found the true church, at least not in the time frame that I did.
 
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