Free Contraception dramatically lowers abortion rate?

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Study: Free contraception dramatically lowers the rate of abortions

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Rate of abortions cut about two-thirds, according to the study.

From the article:

When more than 9,000 women ages 14 to 45 in the St. Louis area were given no-cost contraception for three years, abortion rates dropped from two-thirds to three-quarters lower than the national rate, according to a new report by Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis researchers.

From 2008 to 2010, annual abortion rates among participants in the Contraceptive Choice Project – dubbed CHOICE – ranged from 4.4 abortions per 1,000 women to 7.5 abortions per 1,000. That’s far less than the 19.6 abortions per 1,000 women nationwide reported in 2008, the latest year for which figures are available.
 
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Study: Free contraception dramatically lowers the rate of abortions
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Rate of abortions cut about two-thirds, according to the study.

From the article:

When more than 9,000 women ages 14 to 45 in the St. Louis area were given no-cost contraception for three years, abortion rates dropped from two-thirds to three-quarters lower than the national rate, according to a new report by Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis researchers.

From 2008 to 2010, annual abortion rates among participants in the Contraceptive Choice Project – dubbed CHOICE – ranged from 4.4 abortions per 1,000 women to 7.5 abortions per 1,000. That’s far less than the 19.6 abortions per 1,000 women nationwide reported in 2008, the latest year for which figures are available.
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This is so totally wrong on so many levels. Methinks I sense bias and manipulation of data. :mad:

I know MSNBC is totally biased to the left, but I can’t believe they would blatantly peddle something like this even with their obvious bias. (And yes, I believe other networks have their biases. Even FOX. But we are talking about bias in MSNBC right now. This goes beyond the pale---------to me. Sorry). 👍

Through the prayers of the Mother of God-----have mercy on us and save us. Amen.
 
OrdinaryMelkite said:
This is so totally wrong on so many levels. Methinks I sense bias and manipulation of data. :mad:

I know MSNBC is totally biased to the left, but I can’t believe they would blatantly peddle something like this even with their obvious bias. (And yes, I believe other networks have their biases. Even FOX. But we are talking about bias in MSNBC right now. This goes beyond the pale---------to me. Sorry). 👍

Through the prayers of the Mother of God-----have mercy on us and save us. Amen.
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Dear OrdinaryMelkite–

I’m curious,why do you think the data have been manipulated?

Jala
 
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Study: Free contraception dramatically lowers the rate of abortions
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Rate of abortions cut about two-thirds, according to the study.

From the article:

When more than 9,000 women ages 14 to 45 in the St. Louis area were given no-cost contraception for three years, abortion rates dropped from two-thirds to three-quarters lower than the national rate, according to a new report by Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis researchers.

From 2008 to 2010, annual abortion rates among participants in the Contraceptive Choice Project – dubbed CHOICE – ranged from 4.4 abortions per 1,000 women to 7.5 abortions per 1,000. That’s far less than the 19.6 abortions per 1,000 women nationwide reported in 2008, the latest year for which figures are available.
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Happened when the pill began production too. It dropped off noticeably, but then spiked, went way over the top of what it was before, and hasn’t really subsided since.
 
Remember, the moning after pill, kill babies but studies like this don’t count them as abortions.
 
Jala said:
Dear OrdinaryMelkite–

I’m curious,why do you think the data have been manipulated?

Jala
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Look at #4. Not mentioning that and “selectively” putting that away counts as a form of manipulation for me. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
Even if it is true, I go by the Kantian argument that the ends do not justify the means.
 
Does anyone else think this was a silly study? Saying that women taking contraceptives have fewer abortions is the same as saying people that wear sunscreen are less likely to have skin cancer. It’s doing what it was designed to do. Anybody that hasn’t been lobotomized would be able to see that correlation.
 
The liberals just can’t understand the pro life argument. This is not about the word abortion. Fudging statistics like this is just a new low for them. Let’s pretend for the sake of the argument that these statistics are accurate as reported. Nothing changes! The liberals think it’s a big “progressive” step forward since once abortions are lowered pro lifers (predominantly we Catholics) will have to shut up about contraception because look at the “good” it’s doing. They can’t comprehend that we are not fighting over words. We are fighting over the essence of life itself. Through abortion life is terminated. Through contraception it is prevented. At the end of the day they are one and the same thing. It’s mankind stepping in the way of life. THAT is what we are fighting against. Not the number of abortions vs the percentage of women between age x and y who have admitted to using birth control once in the last fifteen years.
 
As catholics doesn’t this beg the question? :confused: Or am I stating what’s already clear?
 
SaintPatrick333 said:
The liberals just can’t understand the pro life argument. This is not about the word abortion. Fudging statistics like this is just a new low for them. Let’s pretend for the sake of the argument that these statistics are accurate as reported. Nothing changes! The liberals think it’s a big “progressive” step forward since once abortions are lowered pro lifers (predominantly we Catholics) will have to shut up about contraception because look at the “good” it’s doing. They can’t comprehend that we are not fighting over words. We are fighting over the essence of life itself. Through abortion life is terminated. Through contraception it is prevented. At the end of the day they are one and the same thing. It’s mankind stepping in the way of life. THAT is what we are fighting against. Not the number of abortions vs the percentage of women between age x and y who have admitted to using birth control once in the last fifteen years.
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👍👍
 
A bit like saying that handing out free guns reduces the rate of knife-related suicides, murders and injuries … who cares?
 
Planned Parenthood’s Frederick S. Jaffe, in Abortion Politics, says
… even if everyone were to practice contraception, and use the most effective medically prescribed methods, there would still be a very large number of unwanted pregnancies
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1995 Alfred Kinsey said
At the risk of being repetitious, I would remind the group that we have found the highest frequency of induced abortions in the groups which, in general, most frequently uses contraception
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British Abortionist Judith Bury, Brook Advisory Centres, 1981
… women… have come to request [abortions] when contraception fails. There is overwhelming evidence that, contrary to what you might expect, the provision [availability] of contraception leads to an increase in the abortion rate’
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Abortionist and international contraception promoter Malcolm Potts who was former director of Planned Parenthood of England, an abortinist and international promoter of contraception said in 1976 and apparently as early as 1973) quoted in ‘Sex and Social Engineering’ by Valerie Riches
As people turn to contraception, there will be a rise, not a fall, in the abortion rate…
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In Abortion, he said
… those who use contraception are more likely than those who do not to resort to induced abortion…
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Multiple shows increased use of contraception among the public and/or promotion of contraception does not reduce the abortion rate

Between 1995 and 2001 in Sweden abortion rate fore teens grew 32% in a time when oral contraceptions, cheap condoms, and over the counter emergency contraception:

10 year study in Spain reported to have found:
[C]ontraception use increased by about 60%, the abortion rate doubled. In other words, even with an increase in contraception use, there weren’t fewer unwanted pregnancies, there were more
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National Review reported that ‘out of 23 studies on the effects of increased access to ECs, not one study could show a reduction in unintended pregnancies or abortions’

Research arm of Planned Parenthood, Guttmacher Institute showed a simultaneous increase in contraception use and teen abortion rate in the US, Denmark, Cuba, Singapore, the Netherlands, and South Korea

Guttmacher says 55%-60% of women getting an abortion are on contraception

Sex ed program in Scotland over 3 years, scientists discovered it did not delay intercourse improve use of contraceptives or reduce pregnancies or abortions. The government decided to continue the program because students reported feeling less regret about the first time they slept with their most recent partner

In England in 1999 the government put £15 million to sex education, Students where offered condoms, morning after pills, while having ‘safe sex education’ in schools. In March 2004 they found that STD rates had gone up 64%, teens pregnancies where also up, some areas experience 34% overall leap. The greatest increases where in areas where the program had been implemented
 
SaintPatrick333 said:
The liberals just can’t understand the pro life argument. This is not about the word abortion. Fudging statistics like this is just a new low for them. Let’s pretend for the sake of the argument that these statistics are accurate as reported. Nothing changes! The liberals think it’s a big “progressive” step forward since once abortions are lowered pro lifers (predominantly we Catholics) will have to shut up about contraception because look at the “good” it’s doing. They can’t comprehend that we are not fighting over words. We are fighting over the essence of life itself. Through abortion life is terminated. Through contraception it is prevented. At the end of the day they are one and the same thing. It’s mankind stepping in the way of life. THAT is what we are fighting against. Not the number of abortions vs the percentage of women between age x and y who have admitted to using birth control once in the last fifteen years.
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Preventing pregnancy and having abortion are the same? That means that every time you don’t have sex you are pretty much having an abortion…because not having sex is preventing pregnancy. Right?
 
Acerunner said:
Does anyone else think this was a silly study? Saying that women taking contraceptives have fewer abortions is the same as saying people that wear sunscreen are less likely to have skin cancer. It’s doing what it was designed to do. Anybody that hasn’t been lobotomized would be able to see that correlation.
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It’s also a terrible argument to make besides being silly. I will preach this in my homily this weekend, “study shows how to reduce abortion; use contraceptives! Btw, the government is making sure all employers make it available and everyone will help you pay for it, so the fight is over and abortion has lost, praise God for the inventions of men that even though may be in itself immoral, stops another immoral act, so it’s fine, go for it.”

Think Bishop will call me in? I think so. Ends do not justify means. Church truth is the only truth that matters with God, no matter how much we disagree with that truth.

Abortion = intrinsic evil
Contraceptive not a moral option to reduce it.
 
interestedman said:
Preventing pregnancy and having abortion are the same? That means that every time you don’t have sex you are pretty much having an abortion…because not having sex is preventing pregnancy. Right?
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You are right in highlighting and challenging the other posters opinions. Abortion and birth control are not the same thing. They’re not even in the same ballpark.
 
Washington U is as liberal a place as liberal gets. It’s possible in studies to influence the outcome simply by the way the subjects are dealt with. Sometimes that can be inadvertent. Sometimes it isn’t.
 
How about just making it illegal. That is the simplest way of reducing the abortion rate.

The abortion rate is substantalliy lower in countries like Malta where abortion is illegal.
 
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