Free will and determinism

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We all know that free will is not possible under materialism since laws of nature determisntically determine how a system should evolve. This restriction is obvious when the number of laws are limited. One can however argue that the number of laws of nature is infinite and that is where we become free. That is true since in this case we cannot find a close system of laws which determine our decision because infinity+infinity=infinity.
 
Anything that is ordered by law is deterministic. Even if the number of laws was infinite, matter would be acting in a law-like, determined manner and not capable of freedom.
 
Anything that is ordered by law is deterministic. Even if the number of laws was infinite, matter would be acting in a law-like, determined manner and not capable of freedom.
Incontrovertible! Free will is a violation of the law of conservation of energy and it presupposes the existence of spiritual power without which we would be biological robots. Even animal behaviour cannot be fully explained in terms of physical cause and effect because its plasticity reveals a mental dimension is lacking in complex crystalline structures, notably in the will to survive.
 
Simple answer. God gave us free will. It is part of how we were created in God’s image.

Free will, however, is the freedom to love God and the truth. To choose against truth and against God impairs free will and thus enslaves us.

No set of laws “determines” us. We also have the freedom to choose. We can choose truth and be free, or we can choose error and be enslaved.

As Jesus said, “You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.”
 
Anything that is ordered by law is deterministic. Even if the number of laws was infinite, matter would be acting in a law-like, determined manner and not capable of freedom.
Dualism is a failure. We even have evidence that there is an area in brain which is responsible for creating the sense of self! So what is left that we can assign it to soul! Monism is the only solution. The infinitsicmy of system is the only solution to the problem of free will. How possibly we can predict the behavior a system which is infinitely internally complex. You can look at it this way.
 
Incontrovertible! Free will is a violation of the law of conservation of energy and it presupposes the existence of spiritual power without which we would be biological robots.
Brilliantly nonsensical. A phenomenon that we can’t prove exists…namely freewill…violates the law of the conservation of energy, therefore you think that the logical conclusion isn’t that freewill doesn’t exist, but rather that we should invoke an unseen cause for an unseen effect. It boggles the mind.
Even animal behaviour cannot be fully explained in terms of physical cause and effect because its plasticity reveals a mental dimension is lacking in complex crystalline structures, notably in the will to survive.
Classic God of the gaps. Science can’t yet explain how the brain creates consciousness, therefore the brain can’t create consciousness, and the only other possible explanation is the supernatural. The theistic brain at its finest.
 
Please read post #5 first.
Incontrovertible! Free will is a violation of the law of conservation of energy and it presupposes the existence of spiritual power without which we would be biological robots.
We could be infinity internally complex. That is the only solution in materialism for free will.
Even animal behaviour cannot be fully explained in terms of physical cause and effect because its plasticity reveals a mental dimension is lacking in complex crystalline structures, notably in the will to survive.
I agree with you that animals (including human) in general have the power to create ideas in order to resolve a complex situation and survive.
 
We even have evidence that there is an area in brain which is responsible for creating the sense of self!
We don’t have any evidence that the brain is the cause of the sense of self.
We have evidence that there is some correlation of brain activity with aspects of a sense of self - but this does not tell us that the brain creates this sense, only that there are brain locations that respond physically to various inner states. This is far from proving a causal linkage.
 
We don’t have any evidence that the brain is the cause of the sense of self.
We have evidence that there is some correlation of brain activity with aspects of a sense of self - but this does not tell us that the brain creates this sense, only that there are brain locations that respond physically to various inner states. This is far from proving a causal linkage.
Yes. Correlation. That is the only way to induction. Why there is a center there if soul is the experiencer and self is property of soul?
 
Why there is a center there if soul is the experiencer and self is property of soul?
Because the soul interacts with matter. It is not caused or created by the brain.
Free-will decisions from the immaterial soul light up sectors of the brain.
 
Because the soul interacts with matter. It is not caused or created by the brain.
Free-will decisions from the immaterial soul light up sectors of the brain.
Yes, the lit up sectors of the brain is the effect of the soul and its powers on the brain and the body.
 
Dualism is a failure. We even have evidence that there is an area in brain which is responsible for creating the sense of self! So what is left that we can assign it to soul! Monism is the only solution. The infinitsicmy of system is the only solution to the problem of free will. How possibly we can predict the behavior a system which is infinitely internally complex. You can look at it this way.
The free will cannot will simply and absolutely anything as if it has no object or purpose. As the eyes are made for seeing and the ears for hearing, so the object of the will is the good. The very nature of the will is that good is its object, it cannot help but will or desire the good, either true or apparent good. Consequently, the free will cannot will evil as such but only evil under the aspect of apparent good. St Thomas Aquinas argues that even God necessarily wills his own goodness as the divine goodness is the proper object of the divine will even as man necessarily wills his own happiness.
 
Because the soul interacts with matter. It is not caused or created by the brain.
Free-will decisions from the immaterial soul light up sectors of the brain.
That is a common problem in regards to dualism: How immaterial soul can interact with material body. They don’t share any property in common in order to interact.
 
That is a common problem in regards to dualism: How immaterial soul can interact with material body. They don’t share any property in common in order to interact.
What “properties” do you think a soul has?
 
Energy is the inner strength. That doesn’t help you. You need a property which couples soul to body. Something like charge, etc.

Needless to say that even if you can find that property then you face with another property of physical world which says that physical world is closed and move based on laws of nature.
 
Energy is the inner strength. That doesn’t help you.
You don’t know what the soul is composed of. You’re measuring an immaterial soul by material standards and concepts.
 
So please tell me that how soul and body interact?
You mean, how does the soul leave the body and end in either Heaven or Hell until the Last Judgement?
I haven’t asked God about that yet - He knows.
You would be best to ask Him yourself – are you praying for answers to these questions?
God will reveal them to you if you persevere.
 
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