Is there really a total forbidding of ritual? I know that there are prohibitions against pagan rituals, but it seems bizarre that there would be a total prohibition of any ritual despite the fact that rituals have played a major role among God’s people since the time of Israel. Today, things like the Mass, processions, and sacraments all have a ritualistic element to them.
I’m saying that that doesn’t seem consistent with the fact that God established rituals or the fact that His Church has continued the practice. The Mass is itself quite ritualistic when you consider all the goes on in it for a weekly Mass and even more for special ones like those of the Easter Triduum.
You raise a very pertinent point. I understand that the CC teaches that the first Mass was the Last Supper. I have been privy to observe Mass many times and am convinced there is much more ritual in a modern Mass than what is present in the Biblical account of the Last Supper.You said:
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I’m saying that that doesn’t seem consistent with the fact that God established rituals or the fact that His Church has continued the practice. The Mass is itself quite ritualistic when you consider all the goes on in it for a weekly Mass and even more for special ones like those of the Easter Triduum.
I was like no…that doesn’t fall under “church”Some Buddhists call their assemblies “churches”.The Mason I know called a Buddhist Temple a “church”.
OK, I thought you were speaking much more broadly. Thanks for clarifying.
Technically, it was the first Mass, since the requirements of Mass, that the Eucharist was validly celebrated, did happen.
Freemasonry is evil and is looking for the downfall of the Catholic Church. It is completely incorrect that they have no issue with the Church.
Freemasonry as a visible organization may or may not die out, but that’s not what’s important. What’s important is that freemasonry is first and foremost a principle, i.e. that man is here to fashion the world after his own liking, regardless of what God’s intentions for the world and man were and are. And this, the freemasonic principle, is utterly rampant in the modern world. In fact, it’s no exaggeration to say that the modern world is based on this principle entirely. Modern education and upbringing are lengthy training courses in how to partipate in such a freemasonic system. In this sense – which is the important sense – freemasonry is not dying out. It is stronger than ever, and has more (unwitting) adherents than ever.
If I could give this post a hundred likes I would. It is the ultimate truth of the insidious influence of Freemasonry on Western civilisation.OKComputer:
Freemasonry as a visible organization may or may not die out, but that’s not what’s important. What’s important is that freemasonry is first and foremost a principle, i.e. that man is here to fashion the world after his own liking, regardless of what God’s intentions for the world and man were and are. And this, the freemasonic principle, is utterly rampant in the modern world. In fact, it’s no exaggeration to say that the modern world is based on this principle entirely. Modern education and upbringing are lengthy training courses in how to partipate in such a freemasonic system. In this sense – which is the important sense – freemasonry is not dying out. It is stronger than ever, and has more (unwitting) adherents than ever.
The 1983 Code of Canon Law was promulgated in January 1983. In November 1983, with the approval of Pope John Paul II, Cardinal Ratzinger (as prefect of the CDF) stated, "The Church’s negative position on Masonic association… remains unaltered, since their principles have always been regarded as irreconcilable with the Church’s doctrine. Hence, joining them remains prohibited by the Church. Catholics enrolled in Masonic associations are involved in serious sin and may not approach Holy Communion.”