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At_Trent
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sigh, I don’t know French
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HCC
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God bless Cardinal Richard! Interesting film, of course, the average French “Catholic” will think they’re extreme and crazy.
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Just to let you know, the documentary appears to be exclusively on the SSPX.
I found it interesting to hear what it was like from the point of view of so many of their members.
The last 10 or 12 minutes had very poor audio…hard to make out what was being said.
Some very good points were made by them concerning modernism and something there seems to be a french word only for - “moyenisme” - which is a close cousin of relativism ; “moyen” means average in french. A good synonym for “moyenisme” might be “homogenism”. These guys (& girls) are quite attuned to the fact that society is largely in opposition to our religion today.
You have to admire the way they speak up against abortion too.
I thought one young member of their society seemed to trip on his words a bit:
11:57 " I don’t consider myself having entered into the confraternity against the Vatican”
then at 12:15 "I’m not entering a movement which is in opposition to the Pope…I’m entering a movement which wants to be the closest to what the Church has always taught”
But the next member expressed his position quite profoundly by way of analogy (to keep the translation as close to the french literal version as possible I had to add several words - so the blue highlighted words in parentheses explain the sense of the words:
At 12:27 :
Member: " Its a little like the son who knows what he is doing is good, he can see it, but his father doesn’t want him…so…it’s terrible…he continues to act even though his father doesn’t acknowledge him… he knows he is doing good for his father”
It’s (really) crucifying (to us- for one in our position, particularly), if one loves the pope…"
Commentator: "*And you love him *?..”
Member nodding]: “*And I love him *(the pope”).
I found it interesting to hear what it was like from the point of view of so many of their members.
The last 10 or 12 minutes had very poor audio…hard to make out what was being said.
Some very good points were made by them concerning modernism and something there seems to be a french word only for - “moyenisme” - which is a close cousin of relativism ; “moyen” means average in french. A good synonym for “moyenisme” might be “homogenism”. These guys (& girls) are quite attuned to the fact that society is largely in opposition to our religion today.
You have to admire the way they speak up against abortion too.
I thought one young member of their society seemed to trip on his words a bit:
11:57 " I don’t consider myself having entered into the confraternity against the Vatican”
then at 12:15 "I’m not entering a movement which is in opposition to the Pope…I’m entering a movement which wants to be the closest to what the Church has always taught”
But the next member expressed his position quite profoundly by way of analogy (to keep the translation as close to the french literal version as possible I had to add several words - so the blue highlighted words in parentheses explain the sense of the words:
At 12:27 :
Member: " Its a little like the son who knows what he is doing is good, he can see it, but his father doesn’t want him…so…it’s terrible…he continues to act even though his father doesn’t acknowledge him… he knows he is doing good for his father”
It’s (really) crucifying (to us- for one in our position, particularly), if one loves the pope…"
Commentator: "*And you love him *?..”
Member nodding]: “*And I love him *(the pope”).
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wisdomseeker
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beautifull, how can the pope not accept these people? how can the pope allow such holiness be outside of the Church? i know the holy father wants them to come back, but the holy father is surround by modernists wolves that if the Traditionalists come back, it will put them to shame.
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ConvertaKat
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Wow! This is in France?
I had thought that the country had all but rolled over and given up their faith.
Thank God for these people! May the seeds of revival continue!
I had thought that the country had all but rolled over and given up their faith.
Thank God for these people! May the seeds of revival continue!
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