French students obliged to justify abortion in an exam of "Baccalauréat"

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Recently, a subject given for an examination of sciences asked the students to justify abortion, on the basis of a document (a newspaper article) favourable to abortion.

A Catholic pro-life association has threatened to start a law suit to aks the annulment of the exam.

Read all this on dawnofeurope.blogspot.com , the blog on human rights and bioethics.

And tell me if you have similar occurrences in the States or wherever across the world!
 
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All I can say is France is getting deeper and deeper into sin.

God Bless
Saint Andrew.
 
They were forced to do this?

So much for being “pro-choice.”
 
Here is start of my essay:

I believe abortion is justified because men should be able to use women in short term “relationships”, preferable one night stands, and not have to be responsible for the potential consequences.
 
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Maranatha:
Here is start of my essay:

I believe abortion is justified because men should be able to use women in short term “relationships”, preferable one night stands, and not have to be responsible for the potential consequences.
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:yup: Yes, that assignment could easily be turned into a work exposing all the hypocrisys of abortion.

I hope there are some very clever pro-life students that could turn the tables on the teacher.
 
None of the other posters have mentioned which exam this was for, the *Baccalauréat *and I suspect many on this forum do not know the significance of this exam, as there is no equivalent in the US. Your score on this exam determines whether you are allowed to attend college. The exam is basically pass/fail. If you pass, you can attend college. Failure prevents you from attending ANY college. Nor is this a joke exam like some of the exams to test if you can graduate high school in the U.S. (1/4 + 1/3 = ? from the NJ test). Many french students take le Bac more than once, hoping to pass. (Note: my knowledge of the Bac is as an American who studied French, so somewhat limited and not definitive. However, I suspect most on the forum know less, so figured I’d add what I know to the conversation.)

The importance of the exam makes it incredibly risky to answer the question in an unexpected manner, no matter how tempting that may seem. I like Maranatha’s idea, but I can’t really see many French students willing to gamble their future on whether the grader will be accepting of answers that are contradictory to the intention of the question. The importance of the test, and the severe consequences for failure, make the compulsory nature of this question even worse!
 
As you can see the death agenda is stepping up the battle and if you concede even for your "future"the consequences will be devestating.Jesus said whoever lays down his life for Him will save it and whoever tries to save is life will lose it.This situation seems to apply.:nope:
 
Voice]Recently, a subject given for an examination of sciences asked the students to justify abortion, on the basis of a document (a newspaper article) favourable to abortion.

A Catholic pro-life association has threatened to start a law suit to aks the annulment of the exam.

Read all this on dawnofeurope.blogspot.com , the blog on human rights and bioethics.

And tell me if you have similar occurrences in the States or wherever across the world!

Free Voice:

Here’s our version (found by the wife of Michael Medved, Dr. Diane Medved)

Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - Page updated at 12:00 AM
Faking your type to “pass” a personality test
By Kyung M. Song
Seattle Times staff reporter

*One of the most widely accepted personality models is known as the Big Five, which sorts personality traits into five broad dimensions: extraversion, agreeableness, conscientiousness, emotional stability and openness to new experiences. But employers use dozens of types of tests that are based on different personality theories.

The tests commonly ask applicants true or false questions or ask them to rank statements on a scale from strongly disagree to strongly agree… *

So far, so good…

… Questions to gauge a person’s openness to new ideas might include whether she avoids philosophical discussions (negative score) or* tends to vote for liberal candidates (positive score)**.*

… And, This continues on the Sidebar…

Openness to new experience: wide interests, imaginative, insightful, cultured, creative, broadminded

*High scorer: Believes in the importance of art

Low scorer: Tends to vote for conservative political candidates

Source: Tom Buchanan, University of Westminster, England*

seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/health/2002343492_healthpersonality22.html

The test itself is here:

outofservice.com/bigfive/ (Please Note Questions # 46 & 47 - These are career killers).

personalitytest.org.uk/ (Question #1, 17, 24)

Employers use the scores from thee tests to determine whether or not they will hire people or even give them the time of day.

Since most Christians who are serious about their faith vote for Pro-Life political Candidates, and most Pro-Life Candidates are “Conservatives”, these tests automatically discriminates against Christians.

It’s amazing that HR employees would actually use this to screen Christians out, since Christians are usually the most conscientious hard-working employees a complany can have.

It’s almost like the last persecution of the Roman Empire which effectively gutted the Roman Welfare state (the only effective welfare state on record because Christians ran it).

It forced all the people, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to be given a stamped image on their right hands or their foreheads, so that no one could buy or sell except one who had the stamped image of the beast’s name or the number that stood for its name. Wisdom is needed here; one who understands can calculate the number of the beast, for it is a number that stands for a person. His number is six hundred and sixty-six.
Revelation 13:16-18. NAB
vatican.va/archive/ENG0839/_P12W.HTM#D6

The idea is very simple, the Academics and power elites who wrote these tests and the scoring systems don’t care about the companies. what they care about is marginalizing Pro-Life Christians and making us as poor as church mice. They know the poor have NO power, and that’s how they plan to take away whatever political clout we’ve had.

Once they’ve done that, they can pretty much do to us whatever they want. After all, we’ve been the definition of “Inconvenient”.

The next persecution is most definitely coming, and apostate Christians will probably help the persecutors against us.

We have our work cut out for us, and we had better make sure our congregations are knit together more strongly than they are.

I just don’t see how we’re going to be able to learn how to love and trust each other while the civil authorities and the secular society are turning us against each other.

Blessed are they who act to save God’s Little Ones. Michael
 
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urbana:
None of the other posters have mentioned which exam this was for, the *Baccalauréat *and I suspect many on this forum do not know the significance of this exam, as there is no equivalent in the US. Your score on this exam determines whether you are allowed to attend college. The exam is basically pass/fail. If you pass, you can attend college. Failure prevents you from attending ANY college. Nor is this a joke exam like some of the exams to test if you can graduate high school in the U.S. (1/4 + 1/3 = ? from the NJ test). Many french students take le Bac more than once, hoping to pass. (Note: my knowledge of the Bac is as an American who studied French, so somewhat limited and not definitive. However, I suspect most on the forum know less, so figured I’d add what I know to the conversation.)

The importance of the exam makes it incredibly risky to answer the question in an unexpected manner, no matter how tempting that may seem. I like Maranatha’s idea, but I can’t really see many French students willing to gamble their future on whether the grader will be accepting of answers that are contradictory to the intention of the question. The importance of the test, and the severe consequences for failure, make the compulsory nature of this question even worse!
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There is another element which makes the French “Bac” and a high grade very important: unlike the US, France’s elites go to non-university Hautes Ecoles where selection is drastic and where it is important to have very high grades. To give you an idea, it is difficult to enter a haute école with anything less than an average of at least 16/20 at the Bac (and during the year).

Just a remark for those who thought that they might have been allowed to get away with denouncing abortion: this was a scientific essay, meaning that there is only one “good” reply, not a reply according to your opinion. That is the principal concern of the pro-life associations: it is a way of discriminating against students who are pro-choice…
 
Free Voice:
There is another element which makes the French “Bac” and a high grade very important: unlike the US, France’s elites go to non-university Hautes Ecoles where selection is drastic and where it is important to have very high grades. To give you an idea, it is difficult to enter a haute école with anything less than an average of at least 16/20 at the Bac (and during the year).

Just a remark for those who thought that they might have been allowed to get away with denouncing abortion: this was a scientific essay, meaning that there is only one “good” reply, not a reply according to your opinion. That is the principal concern of the pro-life associations: it is a way of discriminating against students who are pro-choice…
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Free Voice:

That’s why I quoted that test many employers are using. I thought it was not only analogous, but similar in intent.

I don’t see how anyone could write a “Scientific essay” based on one paper, let alone a paper that’s as biased as the one you quoted.

To be “Scientific” a defense of a position must consider all the available evidence, and not just that found in one paper. Most “Scientific” research papers quote from a variety of sources, and if the authors are trying to justify a particular position, they will quote from experiments and studies that support and oppose their position.

I can’t see how it would be fair if such an above statement were made at the beginning of the essay and they marked the essay down because of it or because of the Pro-Life position which would follow based on sources OUTSIDE the biased paper the testers have chosen to use for purposes of indoctrination.

A “Scientific” paper on Abortion has to be allowed to look at evidence for the other position, or it simply isn’t “Scientific”.

Here’s something that happened in a California Community College:

BEST OF THE WEB TODAY

BY JAMES TARANTO
Wednesday, June 29, 2005 3:12 p.m. EDT

To Get a Zero, Cite Its Reciprocal

*In California, however, one student succeeded in failing, reports the Victorville Daily Press:

For using the “G” word 41 times in a term paper, Bethany Hauf was given an “F” by her Victor Valley Community College instructor.

Hauf’s teacher approved her term paper topic–Religion and its Place within the Government–on one condition: Don’t use the word God. Instead of complying with VVCC adjunct instructor Michael Shefchik’s condition Hauf wrote a 10-page report for her English 101 class entitled “In God We Trust.”

Represented by the American Center for Law and Justice, a Christian counterpart to the ACLU, Hauf is threatening legal action. Actually, Shefchik’s condition was a bit unclear:

Hauf first approached her teacher about writing her paper in an April 12 e-mail. . . . Shefchik wrote her back an e-mail approving her topic choice, but at the same time cautioning her to be objective in her reporting. “I have one limiting factor,” Shefchik wrote, according to the ACLJ. “No mention of big ‘G’ gods, i.e., one, true god argumentation.”

Although she got a failing grade on this paper, she got a “C” in the class, proving she’s at least as smart as John Kerry.*

opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110006887

Just so you know, stuff like this happens all the time in our colleges and Universities. That’s Dennis Prager says to send your kids to the LEASE EXPENSIVE college you can afford.

This is pretty much what happened when Christians and Conservatives allowed the Radical Secularists and Heretics to take over our upper division educational system during the 1950’s - 1970’s. They now resist all attempts to restore ballance citing Academic Freedom and Freedom of Speech.

Just try saying something they don’t want to hear in their classrooms or on a term paper!

But, remember, we were told it would be like this, The Elites of the time crucified Our Lord and murdered the Apostles and many of the first Disciples. What made us think we were going to be exempt?

Blessed are they who act to save God’s Little Ones. Michael
 
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