Friars & priests & monks & deacons & monsignors & bishops & nuns & sisters; Oh my!

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I wasn’t sure where to put this. So, since I’m not Catholic, just plunked it here. To Whomever is in charge, feel free to move.

To those of us on the outside looking in, these positions (for lack of a more knowledgeable term) are very confusing. Please enlighten!

I know a bit. I know somewhat about what the Pope’s position is. Successor to Peter, Bishop to Rome and I believe, first among equals? There are priests at every church and the one in charge is the Pastor. There are deacons, some of which are permanent (volunteer?) positions and others are priests prior to being ordained.(?) A Monsignor is a special rank of priest.(?) A Bishop is over a diocese. An Arch Bishop is over an Archdiocese and may have auxiliary Bishops.

Enough of my guessing. I’m sure most of you have more of an understanding that I. Please share the knowledge.
 
The main things you need to know:

As far as the Sacrament of Holy Orders goes, there are just three:

Bishops have the fullness of Orders and are therefore priests who offer sacrifice (the Mass).

Simple Priests (a.k.a. “priests”) also offer Mass and the seven sacraments, but receive jurisdiction from the bishop, without which they cannot perform certain functions (such as hearing Confessions). They cannot ordain, and require special authorization for certain other functions (e.g. administering Confirmation).

Deacons are not priests, but assist the bishops and priests in their functions, both in the Mass and in things like visiting the sick. They can also preach and perform baptisms, weddings, and funerals.

“Permanent” deacon means not transitional. A transitional deacon is on the way to the priesthood.

I’ll let others fill in the rest.
 
Monsignors and Cardinals are both manmade positions. Monsignors are given their title by the Pope, on the recomemdation of their bishop to recognize valuable service given to the Church. Cardinals are appointed by the Pope and have two main functions: an advisor to the Pope and one of the electors to select a new Pope. These men usually have other functions such as heading a major diocese such as New York or Boston.
 
Great thread title!~
Looks like you’ve received excellent answers.
God Bless,
Mary.
 
Right -

Okay: the three main divisions in the Catholic hierarchy are deacon, presbyter-priest, and bishop.

Deacons, which can be “permanent” (they are not preparing for the priesthood) or “transitional” (generally in their final year of seminary) are called to serve at table - that is, taking care of the poor, proclaiming the Gospel, leading the assembly in prayer, and being an assistant to the bishop and priest. Deacons are the Ordinary Minister of the Cup for communion, and can act as a sort of “head altar server” at Mass. Deacons can baptize, be the church’s witness for marriages, and assist at funerals, but they cannot act in persona Christi for the sacraments of Holy Eucharist and Confession, anoint the sick, confirm, or confer Holy Orders. Deacons are also required by their vows to pray the Liturgy of the Hours daily.

Presbyter-priests are called to act in persona Christi in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass and Confession. They are also allowed to anoint the sick. In addition, priests can do everything deacons are allowed to do, though in many cases (such as proclaiming the Gospel), the deacon is the preferred minister, while in other cases (such as the homily), the presiding priest is the preferred minister. Priests are asked to say Mass daily, when possible. Priests can only confirm when a bishop has delegated them to do so (usually done for Easter Vigil), but cannot confer Holy Orders. A pastor is the priest placed in charge of a parish, and often, there are associate pastors who are also assigned to the parish.

Bishops are the successors of the apostles. They are in charge of a diocese, though some, especially in larger dioceses may have “auxiliary bishops”, who are full bishops in their own right. An archbishop is in charge of an archdiocese - the most important diocese in an area. Bishops often break up their dioceses into deaneries (headed by priests) to help administration. Bishops are allowed to confirm, confer Holy Orders, as well as any tasks priests and deacons are allowed to do. All diocesan priests and deacons owe their allegiance to their bishop and receive their orders from him. The bishop also determines parish assignments. The Pope is the Bishop of the diocese of Rome, founded by Sts. Peter and Paul themselves. As St. Peter was named first among the equal apostles, the Pope is also first among equals - the secular equivalents would be the British Prime Minister or the German Chancellor (Pope Francis’s favorite papal title is simply “Bishop of Rome”). As such, when the Pope speaks, he speaks in the name of the entire Church.
 
I wasn’t sure where to put this. So, since I’m not Catholic, just plunked it here. To Whomever is in charge, feel free to move.

To those of us on the outside looking in, these positions (for lack of a more knowledgeable term) are very confusing. Please enlighten!
Your question would be better suited in the Catholic Living section under vocations. People there would be able to give you more detailed answers. Anyway you will get a general idea of the various terms and their functions in the Catholic Church here.🙂
I know a bit. I know somewhat about what the Pope’s position is. Successor to Peter, Bishop to Rome and I believe, first among equals?
A Pope is elected from the College of Cardinals. This tradition of electing the Pope has been going on for more than eight centuries already. Yes, he is the successor to Peter, the Vicar for Christ. That is quite awesome and which even by itself is just too much for Protestants to stomach.
There are priests at every church and the one in charge is the Pastor.
The priest in charge of a church or parish is the rector. The appointment is often on the discretion of the Bishop. His other brother priests if there are more than one can take up various roles like assistant rector.
There are deacons, some of which are permanent (volunteer?) positions and others are priests prior to being ordained.(?)
Deacons are not priest as being pointed out. They are actually seminarians who have passed out from seminary colleges. While waiting to be ordained as priest, they serve as deacons. There are permanent deacons though and these will not become priests.
A Monsignor is a special rank of priest.(?)
Monsignor is a senior priest especially when there are many priests in a parish, one priest would be appointed Monsignor and quite often is the rector of the parish too.
A Bishop is over a diocese. An Arch Bishop is over an Archdiocese and may have auxiliary Bishops.
A Bishop rise from the rank of priests and must be appointed by the Pope usually on the recommendation of the Pope’s representative in his country. The feedback that leads to the recommendation would be varied but nevertheless the selection be such that he should be the most appropriate priest to hold such position and who would be able to carry out the vision and mission of the Church accordingly.

An Archbishop is the Bishop ‘in charge’ of an archdiocese and his brother Bishops.

An archdiocese is usually made up from a number of dioceses. Each diocese is headed by a Bishop. Then we talk about Bishop’s jurisdiction. A Bishop of the diocese is quite autonomous in matter pertaining to the local administration of his diocese which he can decide by himself. Yet on the whole, the Archbishop can issue letters to all the dioceses under him.

Auxiliary Bishop is another Bishop serving with the Archbishop until such a time he is given a position of his own. Usually he is recently appointed.

Bishops and priests are clergies while nuns and brothers are religious. All (except for certain categories of brothers) of them observe the Church discipline of celibacy.
Enough of my guessing. I’m sure most of you have more of an understanding that I. Please share the knowledge.
Hope that helps though it is merely a general summarization. Then you may want to know their functions; and what they can and can’t do. Then there are religious order of priests and diocesan priests, et al.

Eidt: Look like your questions have been answered already and this post is actually overlapping with the others.
 
I wasn’t sure where to put this. So, since I’m not Catholic, just plunked it here. To Whomever is in charge, feel free to move.

To those of us on the outside looking in, these positions (for lack of a more knowledgeable term) are very confusing. Please enlighten!

I know a bit. I know somewhat about what the Pope’s position is. Successor to Peter, Bishop to Rome and I believe, first among equals? There are priests at every church and the one in charge is the Pastor. There are deacons, some of which are permanent (volunteer?) positions and others are priests prior to being ordained.(?) A Monsignor is a special rank of priest.(?) A Bishop is over a diocese. An Arch Bishop is over an Archdiocese and may have auxiliary Bishops.

Enough of my guessing. I’m sure most of you have more of an understanding that I. Please share the knowledge.
The first reply gave you some of the theology, which I can write on if you wish to know. If you only wish to know the organizational aspects, your post is accurate, except for the “first among equals”, which is more of an Orthodox understanding of a Patriarch. The Catholic understanding of the Pope is much more monarchical. Cardinals*, archbishops, bishops, Popes - all are bishops, but the Pope alone has additional power above the other bishops by virtue of his office. (To put it another way, cardinals and archbishops aren’t infallible.)

Wikipedia has articles on all the different types of clergy, I believe on a general “Christian clergy” page.

*Cardinals are generally bishops today, and today must be ordained, although in the past there have been lay cardinals, and numerous cardinals who were not bishops. The orders of “cardinal-priest” and “cardinal-deacon” etc. don’t mean the cardinal is a priest or deacon: a bishop can be a “cardinal-priest”, etc.
 
So nobody addressed some of the other titles yet. I’ll give it a try.

Friars are men who make vows – usually some form of poverty, chastity, and obedience. The word friar means brother. Some groups (such as the Franciscans) refer to their members are Friars. Others use the title Brother. Rather than “belonging” to the Diocese or Archdiocese, they are members of a religious community with a specific rule of life and constitutions. They may be ordained as priests at some point, and I think (but can’t be sure at this time of the night) that they will then be called Father.

Monks are like Friars/Brothers in that they are members of a religious community and make vows. A monk, however, lives in a monastery and does not engage in ministries outside of the monastery. Monks can also be ordained as priests at some point, but it’s not a required part of their life. And monks would probably refer to each other as “brother.”

Nuns are female monks. The are women who are members of a religious community, make vows, and follow a rule of life. The most well-known are the Carmelites and the Poor Clares (female side of the Franciscans). In the monastery they would refer to each other as “sister” or “mother.”

By the way, most woman who belong to religious communities are not monastic and therefore are not “nuns” but rather “sisters.” Just one more title for you to deal with :o

God bless you!

Gertie
 
Ordained religious are still called “brother” or “friar”, at least in the Dominicans, insofar as I know.
 
Friars & priests & monks & deacons & monsignors & bishops & nuns & pope Oh my!

I wasn’t sure where to put this. So, since I’m not Catholic, just plunked it here. To Whomever is in charge, feel free to move.

To those of us on the outside looking in, these positions (for lack of a more knowledgeable term) are very confusing. Please enlighten!
**Bishops **(episcopoi) have the care of multiple congregations and appoint, ordain, and discipline priests and deacons. They sometimes appear to be called “evangelists” in the New Testament. Examples of first-century bishops include Timothy and Titus (1 Tim. 5:19–22; 2 Tim. 4:5; Titus 1:5).

**Priests **(presbyteroi) are also known as “presbyters” or “elders.” In fact, the English term “priest” is simply a contraction of the Greek word presbyteros. They have the responsibility of teaching, governing, and providing the sacraments in a given congregation (1 Tim. 5:17; Jas. 5:14–15). Mentioned in the New Testament (Acts 15:6, 23). They are ordained by the laying on of hands (1 Tm 4:14, 5:22), they preach and teach the flock (1 Tm 5:17), and they administer the sacraments (Jas 5:13-15).

**Deacons **(diakonoi) are the assistants of the bishops and are responsible for teaching and administering certain Church tasks, such as the distribution of food (Acts 6:1–6).

Although the terms “bishop,” “priest,” and “deacon” were somewhat fluid in the apostolic age, by the beginning of the second century they had achieved the fixed form in which they are used today to designate the three offices whose functions are clearly distinct in the New Testament.

Church Father Ignatius of Antioch, disciple of John the Evangelist, wrote in AD 110:
Take care to do all things in harmony with God, with the bishop presiding in the place of God, and with the presbyters in the place of the council of the apostles, and with the deacons, who are most dear to me, entrusted with the business of Jesus Christ …]
Take care, therefore, to be confirmed in the decrees of the Lord and of the apostles, in order that in everything you do, you may prosper in body and in soul, in faith and in love, in Son and in Father and in Spirit, in beginning and in end, together with your most reverend bishop; and with that fittingly woven spiritual crown, the presbytery; and with the deacons, men of God. Be subject to the bishop and to one another as Jesus Christ was subject to the Father, and the apostles were subject to Christ and to the Father; so that there may be unity in both body and spirit …]
Indeed, when you submit to the bishop as you would to Jesus Christ, it is clear to me that you are living not in the manner of men but as Jesus Christ, who died for us, that through faith in his death you might escape dying. It is necessary, therefore—and such is your practice that you do nothing without the bishop, and that you be subject also to the presbytery, as to the apostles of Jesus Christ our hope, in whom we shall be found, if we live in him. It is necessary also that the deacons, the dispensers of the mysteries [sacraments] of Jesus Christ, be in every way pleasing to all men. For they are not the deacons of food and drink, but servants of the Church of God. …]
In like manner let everyone respect the deacons as they would respect Jesus Christ, and just as they respect the bishop as a type of the Father, and the presbyters as the council of God and college of the apostles. Without these, it cannot be called a church. …] In other words, anyone who acts without the bishop and the presbytery and the deacons does not have a clear conscience.
Church Father Clement of Alexandria writes in AD 208:
Even here in the Church the gradations of bishops, presbyters, and deacons happen to be imitations, in my opinion, of the angelic glory and of that arrangement which, the scriptures say, awaits those who have followed in the footsteps of the apostles and who have lived in complete righteousness according to the gospel.
 
A **monk **may be conveniently defined as a member of a community of men, leading a more or less contemplative life apart from the world, under the vows of poverty, chastity, and obedience, according to a rule characteristic of the particular order to which he belongs. The word monk is not itself a term commonly used in the official language of the Church. It is a popular rather than a scientific designation, but is at the same time very ancient, so much so that its origin cannot be precisely determined. The term comes from the Latin monachus, a mere transliteration of the Greek monachos. This Greek form is commonly believed to be connected with monos, lonely or single, and is suggestive of a life of solitude. Church Father Jerome writes: “Interpret the name monk, it is thine own; what business hast thou in a crowd, thou who art solitary?” St. Augustine on the other hand fastens on the idea of unity (monas) because those who are monks should have but one heart and one soul. In any case the fact remains that the word monachus in the fourth century was freely used of those consecrated to God, whether they lived as hermits or in communities.

A friar is a member of one of the mendicant orders. From the Latin frater, brother. In the early Church it was usual for all Christians to address each other as fratres or brothers, all being children of the one Heavenly Father, through Christ. Later, with the rise and growth of the monastic orders, the appellation began gradually to have a more restricted meaning; for obviously the bonds of brotherhood were drawn more closely between those who lived under the rule and guidance of one spiritual father, their abbot. The word occurs at an early date in English literature with the signification of brother, and from the end of the thirteenth century it is in frequent use referring to the members of the mendicant orders.

The word friar is to be carefully distinguished in its application from the word monk. For the monk retirement and solitude are undisturbed by the public ministry, unless under exceptional circumstances. His vow of poverty binds him strictly as an individual but in no way affects the right of tenure of his order. In the life of the friar, on the contrary, the exercise of the sacred ministry is an essential feature, for which the life of the cloister is considered as but an immediate preparation. His vow of poverty, too, not only binds him as an individual to the exercise of that virtue, but, originally at least, precluded also the right of tenure in common with his brethren.

Nuns (from Late Latin nonna (“tutor”), but the proper ecclesiastical term is soror, sister) devote themselves in various religious orders to the practice of a life of perfection. Their existence dates from the first ages of the Church. St. Paul speaks of widows, who were called to certain kinds of church work (1 Timothy 5:9), and of virgins (1 Corinthians 7), whom he praises for their continence and their devotion to the things of the Lord. The virgins were remarkable for their perfect and perpetual chastity. Many also practiced poverty. From the earliest times they were called the spouses of Christ, according to St. Athanasius, the custom of the Church. Tertullian distinguishes between those virgins who took the veil publicly in the assembly of the faithful, and others known to God alone; the veil seems to have been simply that of married women. Virgins vowed to the service of God, at first continued to live with their families, but as early as the end of the third century there were community houses, and certainly at the beginning of the same century the virgins formed a special class in the Church, receiving Holy Communion before the laity. When the persecutions of the third century drove many into the desert, the solitary life produced many heroines; and when the monks began to live in monasteries, there were also communities of women. St. Jerome made famous the monastery of St. Paula at Bethlehem. St. Augustine addressed to the nuns a letter of direction from which subsequently his rule was taken. There were monasteries of virgins or nuns at Rome, throughout Italy, Gaul, Spain, and the West.

Titles like Monsignor, Cardinal, or Pope are honorific, to designate a given office within the Church.

Source: Catholic Encyclopedia
 
Boy! Did you get a lot thrown at you and all at once at that! I came from a liturgical Protestant church, so it was not as difficult as it would be for Assembly of God, Baptists etc to grasp or accept this. It still remains that for us Catholics our focus must remain on Jesus.
 
Just FYI, in the States we commonly refer to the head priest of the parish as the “pastor” rather than the “rector”. I know other English-speaking use the term “rector”. This is the common usage here, but there are other positions that use the term “rector”.

newadvent.org/cathen/12676c.htm
 
I wasn’t sure where to put this. So, since I’m not Catholic, just plunked it here. To Whomever is in charge, feel free to move.

To those of us on the outside looking in, these positions (for lack of a more knowledgeable term) are very confusing. Please enlighten!

I know a bit. I know somewhat about what the Pope’s position is. Successor to Peter, Bishop to Rome and I believe, first among equals? There are priests at every church and the one in charge is the Pastor. There are deacons, some of which are permanent (volunteer?) positions and others are priests prior to being ordained.(?) A Monsignor is a special rank of priest.(?) A Bishop is over a diocese. An Arch Bishop is over an Archdiocese and may have auxiliary Bishops.

Enough of my guessing. I’m sure most of you have more of an understanding that I. Please share the knowledge.
It can be confusing.

The area of theology that studies church structure is called ecclesiology.

The basic unit of the Catholic Church is churches. Yes, that’s correct churches. The technical term is particular church. Most particular churches are dioceses. In some places there are other similar structures that exist for various reasons. We won’t get too complicated and go there but examples of a few are a territorial abbacy, prefecture apostolic, vicariate apostolic.

Every diocese has its own bishop. He is a successor of the apostles. In ancient times he’d have been everyone’s pastor. Overtime as the size of the Church grew it became impractical for bishops to minister to their entire flock. To accommodate these circumstances priests were ordained by bishops to minister to widespread communities that the bishop couldn’t reach regularly enough.

To make a very long story extremely short we now have dioceses with the bishop as the chief pastor. The diocese will be divided into parishes. Each parish will have a priest who is it’s pastor.

Deacons have always assisted bishops. In ancient times men were ordained as deacons and remained a deacon for life. Overtime it developed such that a man only became a deacon on his way to the priesthood. After the Second Vatican Council Pope Paul VI re-introduced the permanent diaconate. We now have permanent deacons who will be deacons for life. There are also temporary deacons who will become priests.

Most dioceses are, well, dioceses. Some are given the name ‘archdiocese’. There is no difference between an archdiocese and a diocese. The bishop of an archdiocese is called an archbishop. In his archdiocese, an archbishop’s authority is exactly the same as a diocesan bishop.

The Catholic Church groups dioceses together into provinces. Each province contains one archdiocese and one or more dioceses. The archdiocese is called the metropolitan see of the province. See is another word used to refer to particular churches. The dioceses in a province are known as its suffragan sees.

The archbishop of a diocese that is the metropolitan see of a province is called the metropolitan of the province. The diocesan bishops of the suffragan sees are the suffragan bishops of the province. Metropolitans have no real authority over the suffragan bishops. Metropolitans do have a small range of limited powers; many of which they exercise when a suffrgan bishop fails to discharge some duty.

Some archdioceses are not part of a province and so they are not metropolitan sees. A small number of dioceses are not part of provinces. These are exceptions to the rule rather than the norm. These particular churches report directly to the Holy See.

Any archdiocese or diocese can have one or more bishops appointed to assist the (arch)bishop. These assistant bishops are called auxiliary bishops. Sometimes the Pope gives an auxiliary bishop the right of succession. This means when the diocesan bishop retires or dies this auxiliary bishop automatically becomes the new diocesan bishop. An auxiliary bishop with the right of succession is called a coadjutor bishop.

The hierarchy of the Catholic Church is reasonably straightforward. It becomes complicated because overtime various exceptions are made to the basic structure. An obvious example would be the latest exception to the normal structure: the introduction of personal ordinariates to allow former Anglican clergy and laity to be received into the Catholic Church as groups, rather than individually, and retaining their own praxis.

Some priests are given honorary titles. They get the title off the Pope. I won’t go into details but there are three such titles. Any priest with such a title is called ‘monsignor’. The title monsignor has other uses that are outside the experience of most catholics. Certain post holders in the Holy See’s Curia are also monsignori. Although it is often not used in this manner, all bishops can be correctly addressed as monsignor.

Above I’ve talked of lots of different posts. To become a clergyman, or cleric, in the Catholic Church you must receive a sacrament called Holy Orders. There are three grades of Holy Orders. The first grade is deacon and all clerics are ordained as a deacon. Some become permanent deacons. Other deacons are ordained to the next grade after six to twelve months as a deacon. That next grade is priest. Most priests remain priests for life. A relatively small proportion of them are ordained to the third and highest grade of Holy Orders, that is bishop. The Pope and all other bishops I’ve mentioned have been ordained as bishops.

The above is a very simplified description of the basic structure of the Catholic Church; however, it could provide a basis for you to ask further questions.
 
So nobody addressed some of the other titles yet. I’ll give it a try.

Friars are men who make vows – usually some form of poverty, chastity, and obedience. The word friar means brother. Some groups (such as the Franciscans) refer to their members are Friars. Others use the title Brother. Rather than “belonging” to the Diocese or Archdiocese, they are members of a religious community with a specific rule of life and constitutions. They may be ordained as priests at some point, and I think (but can’t be sure at this time of the night) that they will then be called Father.

Monks are like Friars/Brothers in that they are members of a religious community and make vows. A monk, however, lives in a monastery and does not engage in ministries outside of the monastery. Monks can also be ordained as priests at some point, but it’s not a required part of their life. And monks would probably refer to each other as “brother.”

Nuns are female monks. The are women who are members of a religious community, make vows, and follow a rule of life. The most well-known are the Carmelites and the Poor Clares (female side of the Franciscans). In the monastery they would refer to each other as “sister” or “mother.”

By the way, most woman who belong to religious communities are not monastic and therefore are not “nuns” but rather “sisters.” Just one more title for you to deal with :o

God bless you!

Gertie
Close but friars and bothers and sisters make promises and all live in convents regardless of gender.

Monks and Nuns take solemn vows and live in monasteries regardless of gender.

It is a common mistake to say males live in monasteries and females live in convents
 
Close but friars and bothers and sisters make promises and all live in convents regardless of gender.

Monks and Nuns take solemn vows and live in monasteries regardless of gender.

It is a common mistake to say males live in monasteries and females live in convents
Friars do indeed make solemn vows like monks. Also like monks, friars take temporary solemn vows prior to perpetual profession.

I also believe all religious make vows (solemn or simple) to the evangelical counsels rather than make promises.
 
Friars do indeed make solemn vows like monks. Also like monks, friars take temporary solemn vows prior to perpetual profession.

I also believe all religious make vows (solemn or simple) to the evangelical counsels rather than make promises.
I likely got the vows and promises, simple and solemn confused. I was going by what a novice master told me in 1983. I never made it after I was a postulant. OFM TDR.

Could it also be different between First and Third orders?
 
I likely got the vows and promises, simple and solemn confused. I was going by what a novice master told me in 1983. I never made it after I was a postulant. OFM TDR.

Could it also be different between First and Third orders?
First orders make vows. Second orders make vows. Third orders make promises.
 
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