Friday abstinence question

[NoPlaceLikeRome]

For those of you who do abstain from meat on Fridays, does this include things like soups made with meat stock, flavored with bacon, etc.? I usually assume it does but want to avoid scrupulosity.

Whoops the title cut off some of it but it’s all in this post.

 

[jj2011]

For those of you who do abstain from meat on Fridays, does this include things like soups made with meat stock, flavored with bacon, etc.? I usually assume it does but want to avoid scrupulosity.

Whoops the title cut off some of it but it’s all in this post.

Yes, at least before Vatican II abstinence from meat meant abstinence from meat flavoring too.

 

[Melanie01]

…it took me a while to get the hang of it…mainly through forgetfulness but it is easy and no hardship at all…I reckon there should be a book called the Catholic Diet Book…and it would become the latest fad…

 

[Andreas_Hofer]

The Angelus Press '62 missal provides the laws on fasting and abstinence, and though I don’t have it in front of me I’m almost positive that soups made from meat stock are alright.

 

[Tietjen]

The Angelus Press '62 missal provides the laws on fasting and abstinence, and though I don’t have it in front of me I’m almost positive that soups made from meat stock are alright.

I abstain from meat on all Fridays. I was taught that nothing from an animal is to be consumed. In the last year or two I have heard it said that some animal byproduct is okay (within reason and using common sense) for example, a person may have a glass of milk with his/her dinner, but NOT a milkshake. And of course how many people look at a piece of cake and see it as having a meat byproduct (IE - eggs, milk, butter)? So, for me, I attempt to keep it simple and eat my tuna sub from Subway (I hate fish) and I have 1 glass of milk. During lunch (if I even bother - usually don’t) a PBJ sandwich. Breakfast is instant oatmeal or a granola bar. The rest of the week… STEAKS, CHICKEN, PORK CHOPS!!!

 

[lak611]

It is really no problem for me. My favourite foods are fish and seafood. I also love pasta. Therefore, since the abstinence is no real sacrifice for me, I read more chapters of the Bible than I do on other days of the week (I read the Bible every day) in order to do something that is truly penitential to me.

 

[BobP123]

It is really no problem for me. My favourite foods are fish and seafood. I also love pasta. Therefore, since the abstinence is no real sacrifice for me, I read more chapters of the Bible than I do on other days of the week (I read the Bible every day) in order to do something that is truly penitential to me.

I read the Unix Bible. Does that count?

Fish are rich in Omega-3 and heart-healthy and good-tasting too. Good on other days of the week too.

 

[puzzleannie]

the current guidelines allow broth or condiments like gravy made from meat, on the same principle as allowing butter, lard or bacon grease, but it is no hardship to do without if you prefer, there are vegetarian broths on the market, margarine, imitation bacon bits etc. It would be much more profitable to focus on the reason for fast and abstinence than worrying about pushing the envelope, or in the other direction, becoming obsessive about it.

 

[Malcolm_McLean]

For those of you who do abstain from meat on Fridays, does this include things like soups made with meat stock, flavored with bacon, etc.? I usually assume it does but want to avoid scrupulosity.

Whoops the title cut off some of it but it’s all in this post.

Most vegetarians are quite strict on meat traces. Since we live in the same culture, I think that calls for a certain stringency on our part too.

 

[bpbasilphx]

Since I’m in Stage 4 Chronic Kidney Disease, I take the advice of the dietician as the fasting and abstinence God wants me to follow, and try to keep it in that spirit.

 

[LilyM]

I abstain from meat on all Fridays. I was taught that nothing from an animal is to be consumed. In the last year or two I have heard it said that some animal byproduct is okay (within reason and using common sense) for example, a person may have a glass of milk with his/her dinner, but NOT a milkshake. And of course how many people look at a piece of cake and see it as having a meat byproduct (IE - eggs, milk, butter)? So, for me, I attempt to keep it simple and eat my tuna sub from Subway (I hate fish) and I have 1 glass of milk. During lunch (if I even bother - usually don’t) a PBJ sandwich. Breakfast is instant oatmeal or a granola bar. The rest of the week… STEAKS, CHICKEN, PORK CHOPS!!!

Eggs, milk or butter aren’t problematic. ANIMAL byproducts aren’t at issue in Friday abstinence, it’s specificaly MEAT and meat byproducts.

Which doesn’t include eggs, milk or butter in any sense of the word. Meat means muscle tissue or other body parts from animals. Hence some vegetarians having problems with gelatine (which is derived from hooves and horns). Only vegans (stricter than your average vegetarian) worries about things like eggs and dairy.

 

[Andruschak]

For those of you who do abstain from meat on Fridays, does this include things like soups made with meat stock, flavored with bacon, etc.? I usually assume it does but want to avoid scrupulosity.
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Hmmmm…I don;t know. I do avoid meat stocks etc etc as part of abstainence, but not out of scrupulosity. Just never though of it as otherwise. I look forward to other replies to this question

 

[NoPlaceLikeRome]

Andruschak, I didn’t mean to imply that what you do is scrupulous. It’s just that I wasn’t raised paying much attention to specific rules (and have only recently started cooking for myself) so want to have them clear. If it’s Canon Law, or the custom, then it’s not scrupulous, no worries.

 

[lak611]

Andruschak, I didn’t mean to imply that what you do is scrupulous. It’s just that I wasn’t raised paying much attention to specific rules (and have only recently started cooking for myself) so want to have them clear. If it’s Canon Law, or the custom, then it’s not scrupulous, no worries.

Homemade soup or gravy is rather time-consuming to make anyway, so it would be easy to make something quick and easy that does not include these items containing meat. Personally, if I’m not having seafood, I’ll have canned tomato soup, spaghetti with a sauce from a jar that doesn’t have meat, macaroni and cheese from a box, or canned vegetarian vegetable soup.

 

[Tietjen]

Eggs, milk or butter aren’t problematic. ANIMAL byproducts aren’t at issue in Friday abstinence, it’s specificaly MEAT and meat byproducts.

Which doesn’t include eggs, milk or butter in any sense of the word. Meat means muscle tissue or other body parts from animals. Hence some vegetarians having problems with gelatine (which is derived from hooves and horns). Only vegans (stricter than your average vegetarian) worries about things like eggs and dairy.

So I have heard and so I have been doing now for a couple of years. BUT, it has not always been so. God bless.