Friday obligation

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Some replies in this thread appear to conflate abstinence and fast. In more recent decades prior to the 1960s, in the Roman rite Fridays were days of abstinence, barring specific times of the year such as Lent. This means avoiding meat and items prepared with meat, and covers, traditionally, all Fridays, Ash Wednesday, Holy Saturday, the Vigil of the Assumption, and the Vigil of Christmas. Fast days are weekdays of Lent, Ember days, the Vigil of Pentecost, the Vigil of the Assumption, and the Vigil of Christmas. Note that fast and abstinence are distinct, and can both apply to the same day.

The laws have changed but I always strive to live in a way that reflects Catholic tradition. Centuries’ of saints avoided meat on Fridays, so this is my practice. Traditionally there is also such a thing as partial abstinence, which allows meat and meat ingredients once per day, and applies to Ember Wednesdays, Ember saturdays, and the Vigil of Pentecost.

Sadly, most Catholics no longer celebrate Ember Days.

The practices concerning food have varied quite a bit throughout Catholic history and geography. Some times/places have had much more extensive fasting than that outlined above. All of that only proves that how we approach food is significant, and that to ignore this issue is very much at odds with Catholic history.

People give odd reasons for ignoring or even scoffing at the “old ways”. They say, ‘people like fish just as much as meat, so what’s the sacrifice?’ or ‘why is eating a lobster instead of a steak a sacrifice?’ The answer is: make it a sacrifice. Get a plain fish. Make a plain meal of a plain fish. I always wonder at those who scoff at the traditions of the Church, even the traditions that have changed with time. And I wonder: if giving up meat is really such a small thing, why can’t they do it? Why not do a small thing for Our Lord, to commemorate His sacrifice for us?
 
It seems strange that the emphasis is so strong on giving up things that are basically good for you, as if to say that restricting vital nourishment is somehow spiritually rewarding. What about giving up all forms of sugar or fat? Do something good for your body and soul that is a little more difficult than choosing T-bone or salmon…

Pat
 
if you’d really want to sacrifice, give up the internet and computer time on fridays. that would mean more to a lot of people than a steak.

there, a spiritual gauntlet has been thrown.
 
I voted “Other”.
Having never been around catholics in my pre-conversion life (38 years), having NOT been taught about Friday abstainance in my catechesis, …
OLD HABITS very hard to break.
What usually happens is I will get halfway through the day and I will say “DOH!!” :banghead: I forgot!!
I know, forgetting is a bad excuse.
So I have been thinking about this lately and want to try harder. But I am never around any catholics except at church, I have no catholic family. And this practice has just not been a priority. But I hope to change.
 
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csr:
Sadly, most Catholics no longer celebrate Ember Days.

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What is an “Ember Day”?
Having no catholic family or history - I have a lot of catching up to do! 😦
 
I have decided, with good spiritual advisor, that sticking to the rather strict dietary guidelines imposed by my doctor, I am performing penance and fasting with regard to food. I am trying to fast from things that are posing a particular spiritual danger to me, such as abuse of time and other resources. I try to do this more consciously and strictly on Fridays, during Lent etc.
 
For those who have convinced themselves that a Friday obligation to peform penance still exists, read this post by Jimmy Akin. If you trust what Jimmy says (I sure do), there is actually no obligation to perform penance on Fridays, although one may be inclined to interpret the Code of Canon Law that way. Having said that, it is certainly a very good thing to perform penance on Friday as most people who have posted in this thread indicate they do (myself included).
 
The link given to a short article written by Jimmy Akin indicating a Friday obligation to perform penance still exists, CONTRADICTS THIS ARTICLE also written by Jimmy Akin.

Anyone else confused? :confused:
 
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ktm:
The link given to a short article written by Jimmy Akin indicating a Friday obligation to perform penance still exists, CONTRADICTS THIS ARTICLE also written by Jimmy Akin.

Anyone else confused? :confused:
Whoa that post made no sense whatsoever.

I posted the question properly in the Ask an Apologist forum. Lesse what happens.
 
*Originally Posted by ktm
The link given to a short article written by Jimmy Akin indicating a Friday obligation to perform penance still exists, CONTRADICTS THIS ARTICLE also written by Jimmy Akin.

Anyone else confused? *

Count me confused. An article by Jimmy Akin convinced me that no Friday obligation exists in America per the USCCB. We are urged, not commanded, to keep the Friday penance in some manner. If it’s still a matter of obligation, I wish the bishop’s would make it clear.

JimG
 
PAX VOBIS! ( Peace be with you! )

Wow, I thought, also, that it was only during Lent to give up something on friday. I do know of religious orders who fast on fridays, but I thought that was just an extra thing.

It is said that I dont know this stuff, but then again, no one teaches it!

For this, and many other, reasons I am becoming a Priest so that the people of the Catholic Church will truly know their faith. But I obviously have some more studying to do before I do that!

God bless, ( especially, Savagedds, for informing us fools on true Catholic docrtrine )

:angel1: :bowdown2: Deus Solus! ( God Alone! ) :bowdown2: :angel1:

Mater Dolorosa, ora pro nobis
 
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thechrismyster:
if you’d really want to sacrifice, give up the internet and computer time on fridays. . . .
My friend, you are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!.

But HOW?

I remembered to do it only once. 😦
 
We also give up all treat foods. This is easier kfor the kids to relate to than lack of meat.

But they still ask regularly why we don’t have treats on Friday.
 
As I am a Vegan, and therefore don’t eat meat, I add some extra prayers!
~ Kathy ~
 
I usually abstain from meat, but sometimes I add some sort of other penitential practice, as abstaining from meat isn’t really all that penitential for me. It must have been a much bigger sacrifice when all people had to eat was meat and bread. Now, with all the fish and other foods available, I hardly notice a day (or several) without meat.
 
I did not know that we had Friday obligations…Where is this written, or is it just tradition. As far as I knew/know, it ended with Vatican ll. I feel very un-holy compared to most of you in these forums. Give up meat on Friday, pray in a certain way, etc… I have been a Catholic all my life, and have thought I was a pretty good person. I came to this forum to learn more about my religion but I am feeling as though I am in the land of oz!! I see and hear Catholics every day act holier than thou, carry the rosary or hang it on the rear view mirror. I read posts from those who seem to “know it all”. I truly believe that God does not care if we eat meat on Friday, or if we tell the world how many roasaries we pray before we get out of bed every morning. I think He does care how we treat one another. The beatitudes…that is how he wants us to live our lives. That is what I taught my children and try to instill in my grandchildren. From what I see, they have learned their lesson well.

God bless…Love and peace
 
Melman:
Where is the thread with a link to Mr. Akin’s recent investigation of the USCCB document from 1966, and his interpretation that there really is NOT a “Friday obligation” in the US? An encouragement, yes… but not an “obligation” that’s bound under pain of sin.

Must be in another forum.
I read this, too. He said it wasn’t an obligation anymore. I still prefer to do the Friday penance. It’s just about two years now, as that’s when I first heard.

SFX
 
I wish my family was Catholic. I can’t explain it to my family because they aren’t all that ecstatic about me and Catholocism anyways and so I usually eat what is made because I don’t want him to get mad thinking I’m not eating his food.

At any rate, I wish my family was Catholic, it’s hard to go about all this stuff alone. They don’t like Catholocism and the real getter is they’ve never studied a bit about it, it’s just immediatly “Oh they worship marry” or “oh I don’t like those Catholics” blah blah. Sorry that’s neither here nor there, but just me blowing off steam.
 
I usually forget 😦 . I didn’t even know about it until a couple of years ago and I rarely think about it. When I do remember I try to restrain from junk food.
 
I like the suggestions for penances. I knew we were supposed to give up something on Fridays, and that meatless Fridays are still *encouraged *but not required, per se. I think that we are more likely to make the penances meaningful if we choose it.

Rich
 
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