Friday Pennance

[Churchman25]

I was just wondering how long does the friday penance last. Off example can you get it done with one act a prayer, a good deed of does it have to last all day?

What I’m trying to say is can the penance be like the penance you get when you go to confession?

Also does the requirement for the lenten fast encompass one meal and two smaller meal per day or is one meal and two smaller ones over the entire two days both friday and saturday?

 

[PaulfromIowa]

A penance can be various things. It does not have to last all day.

The Good Friday fast, one full meal and two smaller meals, applies only to Good Friday. Some people also fast on Holy Saturday until the Easter Vigil Mass but it is optional, not required.

 

[Don_Ruggero]

I was just wondering how long does the friday penance last. Off example can you get it done with one act a prayer, a good deed of does it have to last all day?

What I’m trying to say is can the penance be like the penance you get when you go to confession?

Also does the requirement for the lenten fast encompass one meal and two smaller meal per day or is one meal and two smaller ones over the entire two days both friday and saturday?

I presume the first part of your question is seeking clarification on the following canons (and most especially can 1253, given the provisions made regarding Catholics in the United States and Fridays outside the season of Lent):
*Days of Penance

Can. 1249 The divine law binds all the Christian faithful to do penance each in his or her own way. In order for all to be united among themselves by some common observance of penance, however, penitential days are prescribed on which the Christian faithful devote themselves in a special way to prayer, perform works of piety and charity, and deny themselves by fulfilling their own obligations more faithfully and especially by observing fast and abstinence, according to the norm of the following canons.

Can. 1250 The penitential days and times in the universal Church are every Friday of the whole year and the season of Lent.

Can. 1251 Abstinence from meat, or from some other food as determined by the Episcopal Conference, is to be observed on all Fridays, unless a solemnity should fall on a Friday. Abstinence and fasting are to be observed on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday.

Can. 1252 The law of abstinence binds those who have completed their fourteenth year. The law of fasting binds those who have attained their majority, until the beginning of their sixtieth year. Pastors of souls and parents are to ensure that even those who by reason of their age are not bound by the law of fasting and abstinence, are taught the true meaning of penance.

Can. 1253 The conference of bishops can determine more precisely the observance of fast and abstinence as well as substitute other forms of penance, especially works of charity and exercises of piety, in whole or in part, for abstinence and fast.*
If, as but one example, one walked the Way of the Cross as the penance one substituted for abstinence…yes, you could accomplish it in a matter of a few minutes; it would depend upon what you choose.

 

[PJM]

I was just wondering how long does the friday penance last. Off example can you get it done with one act a prayer, a good deed of does it have to last all day?

What I’m trying to say is can the penance be like the penance you get when you go to confession?

Also does the requirement for the lenten fast encompass one meal and two smaller meal per day or is one meal and two smaller ones over the entire two days both friday and saturday?

My friend, WELCOME TO CAF

I think you may be confusing therms here:

Fridays deal with FASTING

Sacramental Confession with Penance

FASTING in Lent commands NO Meat of Friday’s [unless illness or beyond the age of 55]

And on TODAY: “Good Friday”

No meat and only One FULL Meal & the other 2 ought not exceed the one full meatless meal.

“Penance” is the normal condition of Confession to demonstrate our gratefulness to God and our humility for this graces offered.

God Bless you,

PJM

 

[Churchman25]

Cannon says that you have to do a penance on Fridays this does not mean go to confession,but one could. It more means do something in reparation for sin on your own.

 

[Don_Ruggero]

My friend, WELCOME TO CAF

I think you may be confusing therms here:

Fridays deal with FASTING

Sacramental Confession with Penance

FASTING in Lent commands NO Meat of Friday’s [unless illness or beyond the age of 55]

And on TODAY: “Good Friday”

No meat and only One FULL Meal & the other 2 ought not exceed the one full meatless meal.

“Penance” is the normal condition of Confession to demonstrate our gratefulness to God and our humility for this graces offered.

God Bless you,

PJM

No. This is not correct at all.

Abstinence means no meat

Fasting means one regular sized meal and two smaller meals which do not equal one regular sized meal. The norm in canon law is that this is binding from one’s majority (one’s 18th birthday) until the start of one’s sixtieth year, which means it ends with one’s 59th birthday as is already quoted in canon 1252. Why are you saying the age limit is 55?

The current legislation in the United States admits of abstinence together with fasting on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday and abstinence on the other Fridays of Lent. The legislation does not presently mandate fasting without the accompanying abstinence.

From the US Conference of Catholic Bishops:
For members of the Latin Catholic Church, the norms on fasting are obligatory from age 18 until age 59. When fasting, a person is permitted to eat one full meal, as well as two smaller meals that together are not equal to a full meal. The norms concerning abstinence from meat are binding upon members of the Latin Catholic Church from age 14 onwards.
The exercise of penance – which is NOT the sacrament of penance – on every Friday of the year, including Lent, is delineated in the post above, according to the norms of Canon Law, specifically canon 1250-1253, already quoted in full in this thread, and per the regulations of the competent conference of bishops, taking into account as necessary particular law promulgated by the diocesan bishop. It is placed in the Code precisely in Book IV, Part III, Title II, Chapter II, which is entitled: DAYS OF PENANCE.

The norms are dispositive: usccb.org/prayer-and-worship/liturgical-year/lent/us-bishops-pastoral-statement-on-penance-and-abstinence.cfm

 

[PJM]

No. This is not correct at all.

Abstinence means no meat

Fasting means one regular sized meal and two smaller meals which do not equal one regular sized meal. The norm in canon law is that this is binding from one’s majority (one’s 18th birthday) until the start of one’s sixtieth year, which means it ends with one’s 59th birthday as is already quoted in canon 1252. Why are you saying the age limit is 55?

The current legislation in the United States admits of abstinence together with fasting on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday and abstinence on the other Fridays of Lent. The legislation does not presently mandate fasting without the accompanying abstinence.

From the US Conference of Catholic Bishops:
For members of the Latin Catholic Church, the norms on fasting are obligatory from age 18 until age 59. When fasting, a person is permitted to eat one full meal, as well as two smaller meals that together are not equal to a full meal. The norms concerning abstinence from meat are binding upon members of the Latin Catholic Church from age 14 onwards.
The exercise of penance – which is NOT the sacrament of penance – on every Friday of the year, including Lent, is delineated in the post above, according to the norms of Canon Law, specifically canon 1250-1253, already quoted in full in this thread, and per the regulations of the competent conference of bishops, taking into account as necessary particular law promulgated by the diocesan bishop. It is placed in the Code precisely in Book IV, Part III, Title II, Chapter II, which is entitled: DAYS OF PENANCE.

The norms are dispositive: usccb.org/prayer-and-worship/liturgical-year/lent/us-bishops-pastoral-statement-on-penance-and-abstinence.cfm

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