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These were the Holy Father’s comments on Vatican II. Contrary to what many would like to extrapolate from an earlier statement in which he said, “This council was a modest council,” he does not mean that it’s insignificant or that it has no place in the life of the Church. It is clear from this statement that he was referring to the fact that this council did not defend or define any dogmas, not because it was modest, but it was modest because it did not define dogmas. However, it did make dogmatic statements based on dogmas previously defined and he is describing it as the compass that points the direction in which the Church needs to go.
I believe that the answers that people are asking are beginning to be answered. The Council cannot be ignored. The Council is essential to the life of the Church, not a mistake and it was deliberately planned and played out as planned by Bl. John XXIII.
Whether the bishops going into the Council came out as they went in is another story. Most likely they did not. This is par for the course. One goes into these things thinking one way and shifts position as one listens to others and reflects on what one has heard. The bold is my emphasis and the red are my comments.
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Vatican City, 10 October 2012 (VIS) - “We have reached the eve of the day on which we will celebrate the fiftieth anniversary of Vatican Council II and the beginning of the Year of Faith”, said Benedict XVI at the start of his catechesis during this morning’s general audience in St. Peter’s Square. “And it is about the great ecclesial event of the Council that I wish to speak”, he explained. Great ecclesial event is not the same as modest
“The documents of Vatican Council II are, even in our own time, a compass guiding the ship of the Church as she sails on the open seas, amidst tempests or peaceful waves, to reach her destination”. Vatican II, in which Pope Benedict participated as a young professor of fundamental theology at the University of Bonn, was, he said, “a unique experience” during which "I was able to witness the living Church … which places herself at the school of the Holy Spirit, the true driving force behind the Council. Error is not possible hereRarely in history has it been possible, as it was then, to touch almost physically the universality of the Church at a **moment of peak fulfilment of her mission **to carry the Gospel into all ages and unto the ends of the earth".
In Church history Vatican II was preceded by many other Councils such as Nicea, Ephesus, Chalcedon and Trent. I**n general though, they met to define fundamental elements of the faith, and particularly to the correct errors endangering that faith. This was not the case with Vatican Council II, because at that time "there were no particular errors of the faith to correct and condemn, nor were there specific questions of doctrine and discipline to be clarified. … **Important, because it does not take away from the power and importance of the Council. Pastoral decisions and plans are also essential to the life of the Church.The first question that arose during the preparation of this great event was how to begin, what task to give it. Blessed John XXIII in his opening address of 11 October fifty years ago gave some general guidelines: the faith had to speak with a ‘renewed’ and more incisive voice, because the world was changing rapidly, but it had to maintain its perennial message intact, without giving way or compromising. The world changed and with it its inhabitants, including Catholics. The Council is not responsible for the changes around it. It responded to them.
“The Pope”, Benedict XVI added, “wanted the Church to reflect upon her faith and upon the truths that guide her. But that serious and profound reflection … had to be the starting point for a new relationship between the Church and the modern age, between Christianity and certain essential elements of modern thought, not in order to seek conformity, but to show our world, which tends to distance itself from God, the requirements of the Gospel in all its greatness and purity”.Something that I said on another thread. The Council asks the world, “Who are you?” and asks itself "What is the Church?"
"The age in which we live continues to be marked by forgetfulness and deafness towards God. I believe, then, that we must learn the simplest and most fundamental lesson of the Council: that the essence of Christianity consists in faith in God, … and in the individual and community encounter with Christ Who guides our lives. … The important thing today, as was the desire of the Council Fathers, is for us to see - clearly and anew - that God is present, that He concerns us and responds to us. **And when faith in God is lacking our essential foundations give way because man loses his dignity. … *The Council reminds us that the Church … has the mandate to transmit God’s salvific word of love, so that the divine call which contains our eternal beatitude may be heard and accepted".
I believe that the answers that people are asking are beginning to be answered. The Council cannot be ignored. The Council is essential to the life of the Church, not a mistake and it was deliberately planned and played out as planned by Bl. John XXIII.
Whether the bishops going into the Council came out as they went in is another story. Most likely they did not. This is par for the course. One goes into these things thinking one way and shifts position as one listens to others and reflects on what one has heard. The bold is my emphasis and the red are my comments.
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Vatican City, 10 October 2012 (VIS) - “We have reached the eve of the day on which we will celebrate the fiftieth anniversary of Vatican Council II and the beginning of the Year of Faith”, said Benedict XVI at the start of his catechesis during this morning’s general audience in St. Peter’s Square. “And it is about the great ecclesial event of the Council that I wish to speak”, he explained. Great ecclesial event is not the same as modest
“The documents of Vatican Council II are, even in our own time, a compass guiding the ship of the Church as she sails on the open seas, amidst tempests or peaceful waves, to reach her destination”. Vatican II, in which Pope Benedict participated as a young professor of fundamental theology at the University of Bonn, was, he said, “a unique experience” during which "I was able to witness the living Church … which places herself at the school of the Holy Spirit, the true driving force behind the Council. Error is not possible hereRarely in history has it been possible, as it was then, to touch almost physically the universality of the Church at a **moment of peak fulfilment of her mission **to carry the Gospel into all ages and unto the ends of the earth".
In Church history Vatican II was preceded by many other Councils such as Nicea, Ephesus, Chalcedon and Trent. I**n general though, they met to define fundamental elements of the faith, and particularly to the correct errors endangering that faith. This was not the case with Vatican Council II, because at that time "there were no particular errors of the faith to correct and condemn, nor were there specific questions of doctrine and discipline to be clarified. … **Important, because it does not take away from the power and importance of the Council. Pastoral decisions and plans are also essential to the life of the Church.The first question that arose during the preparation of this great event was how to begin, what task to give it. Blessed John XXIII in his opening address of 11 October fifty years ago gave some general guidelines: the faith had to speak with a ‘renewed’ and more incisive voice, because the world was changing rapidly, but it had to maintain its perennial message intact, without giving way or compromising. The world changed and with it its inhabitants, including Catholics. The Council is not responsible for the changes around it. It responded to them.
“The Pope”, Benedict XVI added, “wanted the Church to reflect upon her faith and upon the truths that guide her. But that serious and profound reflection … had to be the starting point for a new relationship between the Church and the modern age, between Christianity and certain essential elements of modern thought, not in order to seek conformity, but to show our world, which tends to distance itself from God, the requirements of the Gospel in all its greatness and purity”.Something that I said on another thread. The Council asks the world, “Who are you?” and asks itself "What is the Church?"
"The age in which we live continues to be marked by forgetfulness and deafness towards God. I believe, then, that we must learn the simplest and most fundamental lesson of the Council: that the essence of Christianity consists in faith in God, … and in the individual and community encounter with Christ Who guides our lives. … The important thing today, as was the desire of the Council Fathers, is for us to see - clearly and anew - that God is present, that He concerns us and responds to us. **And when faith in God is lacking our essential foundations give way because man loses his dignity. … *The Council reminds us that the Church … has the mandate to transmit God’s salvific word of love, so that the divine call which contains our eternal beatitude may be heard and accepted".