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Is that why the 4th Crusade sacked Constantinople, at the time a Christian City?
The fourth crusade is one that we should hang our head in shame but that does not mean that all the crusades should be lumped into one same category
I’m impressed that you are defending the Crusades. They were violence and murder in the name of God, something we should never do and that we fear in Muslims. While it is fair to say they were defensive, the actions within them were terrible. Murder, rape, pillaging etc. So let’s not say it was a proud chapter in the church’s history. The Holy Land is, and has always been, the most hotly contested piece of land in the history of the world. Being proud of the Crusades isn’t going to help.
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Bad things happened in WWII does that mean it makes the good that was done not to be proud of doing? Of course not, the Crusades have a bad rap and mostly from anti-Christian or anti-Catholic sourses. Yes we should be proud of the first three Crusades not to be is falling to the enemy.
 
Is that why the 4th Crusade sacked Constantinople, at the time a Christian City?
I don’t believe that was its intent. Does that make the entire movement wrong? Not in my opinion. To understand the Catholic perspective, read Belloc’s The Crusades: The World’s Debate. I’m not going to defend it as the most balanced text ever written, but it does a good job of providing insight into the thought processes that led to the Crusades.

As to the OP, there are three potential outcomes if you let known your objections:
  1. You’re accommodated and allowed to provide your perspective on Church teaching to the class
  2. You’re ignored
  3. You’re relieved of your duties
There’s only one outcome if you quit.
  1. You quit
 
Except for Martin Luther they sound pretty accurate. Of course old Martin is often held up as a model of some sort, primarily because protestants hold him in such esteem.

His, Luther, supporters always bring up the issue of indulgences as if that was the only thing that Luther attacked.

Nothing could be further from the truth. A few of Luthers more expressive comments:

I feel much freer now that I am certain the pope is the Antichrist.

I saw clearly that the papacy was to be understood as the kingdom of Babylon and the regime of Nimrod the mighty hunter.

Jews and papists are ungodly wretches; they are two stockings made of one piece of cloth.

You owe God nothing more than to believe, and to confess. In everything else he gives you your freedom,- you can do what you wish without any peril to your conscience. He who believes that Christ has taken away his sins is as sinless as Christ.’

If there were no other evil wiles to prove the pope the true Antichrist, yet this one thing were enough to prove it. Hearest thou this, O pope, not most holy, but most sinful? O that God from heaven would soon destroy thy throne and sink it in the abyss of hell!

**O Christ, my Lord, look down, let the day of thy judgment break, and destroy the devil’s nest at Rome! **

Of the sensual papistical dolts at Rome, cardinals, bishops, priests and the like, it is not necessary to speak here. Their works are manifest. All honorable secular authorities must confess they are simply abandoned knaves, living shameless lives of open scandal, avarice, arrogance, unchastity, vanity, robbery and wickedness of every kind. Not only are they guilty of such living, but shamelessly endeavor to defend their conduct. They must, then, be regarded enemies of Christ and of all honesty and virtue.

Luther wanted and desired nothing more or less than the destruction of the Catholic Church in general and the Papacy in particular. Anyone who thinks differently and believes that Luther was a hero of some sort has been grossly misguided by the supporters of revisionist history.

Maybe I should start posting a few of his quotations from time to time so that those who fall for the catechists claims that Luther only wanted what was good for the Church can see what the man was really all about.
I was beginning to think i was virtually the only one who knew how crass & irreligious Luther was… Thanks for the info…
 
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