FRUSTRATION with Protestantism

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Jubilarian said:
I love the importance the CC puts on Mary and I think Protestants diminish her (and the saints throughout history) more than she deserves. I still have some problems with praying to Mary and the saints along with other doctrines. I keep searching to work through it. Overall though, I see and feel the apostolic succession in a powerful way. There’s a lot more in scripture when you study from the Catholic perspective.

Although I sought to find true Christianity by chasing after the bible alone and Protestant doctrines, I was actually lost in some ways. Protestantism was unstable for me, and that lasted 15+ years. Of course there are many wonderful God loving Protestants but often times the doctrines are all over the place. I find it strange that I came back and some days I’m not sure about things but I see something there. Are you still practicing Catholicism?
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I practice Christian. While I appreciate some aspects of the Catholic Church, the doctrines concerning Mary, purgatory, faith plus works based salvation, and the infallibility of the Pope I do have a problem with.
 
gachristian said:
I practice Christian. While I appreciate some aspects of the Catholic Church, the doctrines concerning Mary, purgatory, faith plus works based salvation, and the infallibility of the Pope I do have a problem with.
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I used to have those misunderstandings too, but they are only that–misunderstandings. Please ask about them here–I mean on CAF, in a separate thread for each you wish to discuss, and you’ll be given a lot of solid information along with good religious/spiritual reasoning for them. :tiphat:
 
danzibr said:
I had/have similar feelings as Della (the being lied to bit).

I remember going to a non-denominational church (ex-Baptist), and knew little of the Bible. The preacher was a learned man, having memorized a great many verses. He justified the be-baptized-because-you’re-saved thing by quoting part of Acts 2:38. Just “be baptized …] for remission of your sins,” appealing to the two ways to interpret “for” in English.

This bothers me because he left out the beginning of the verse and, more importantly, the end of the verse. I now believe he was knowingly fooling me (and others in the room).

I’ve also read quite a bit of stuff from other protestants. On the real presence, one guy was talking about how Jesus often spoke using metaphors, quoting John 3:3. Which is alright, but the protestant went on to say that Jesus did not clarify his statement in John 3:3, essentially pretending John 3:5 doesn’t exist.

Anyway… I’m bitter about being lied to, and unhappy with myself for believing it.

Also it bothers me that they attack Catholicism so much.
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The good old fashioned anti-Catholicism is at the root of most of it in my experience. Former Catholics seem to be more rabid than others many times. Kill em with kindness. And I sometimes say “It’s BECAUSE of the Churches imperfection that I know I am in the right place. The righteous don’t really need a redeemer as much as us wretched sinners do!” Then I remind them that I try to preach the gospel on every step of my path and only as very, very last resort do I actually SAY ANYTHING!!
 
Jubilarian said:
I’m not sure that I would call it anger, but I have developed some degree of resentment towards Protestantism that I need to work through. Frustration is another emotion. Whether you are a cradle Catholic or a revert, do you have any of the same feelings?
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Yes. But my frustration was already in full swing before I thought about becoming Catholic. But that frustration was a good thing, because it made me question EVERYTHING! And that’s how I ended up where I am. 👍

Lately, my frustration has more to do with the representation of Christians (not just Catholics) in literature and movies.
 
Selah_KY said:
Yes. But my frustration was already in full swing before I thought about becoming Catholic. But that frustration was a good thing, because it made me question EVERYTHING! And that’s how I ended up where I am. 👍

Lately, my frustration has more to do with the representation of Christians (not just Catholics) in literature and movies.
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True. I returned to Catholocism the same way, by questioning. As well, I critically observe how Christians are portrayed in films as I am a huge cinema fan. It’s interesting to watch, and rarely rewarding.
 
Jubilarian said:
**** Yes, the constant erroneous attacks on the Catholic Church are annoying.
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Keep in mind that Roman Catholics have their share of erroneous attacks they make against Protestants. Lots of straw men, ignorance and taking things out of context done by both sides.
 
Koineman said:
Keep in mind that Roman Catholics have their share of erroneous attacks they make against Protestants. Lots of straw men, ignorance and taking things out of context done by both sides.
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Well…can you give an example of such erroneous attack by Catholics that are made on Protestants?
 
Koineman said:
Keep in mind that Roman Catholics have their share of erroneous attacks they make against Protestants. Lots of straw men, ignorance and taking things out of context done by both sides.
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There is some truth to your statement but I was referring more to the on line attack aimed at Catholicism by Protestant denominations. If you do a google search about the views of many Protestant groups you will see a plethora of the “whore of Babylon” type attacks. Many go so far as calling the CC demonic.

You just don’t see that type of approach from Catholics towards Protestants . The Catholic approach is not as extreme. Again, this is not to say Cathokics are incapable of extremism.
 
Jubilarian said:
There is some truth to your statement but I was referring more to the on line attack aimed at Catholicism by Protestant denominations. If you do a google search about the views of many Protestant groups you will see a plethora of the “whore of Babylon” type attacks. Many go so far as calling the CC demonic.

You just don’t see that type of approach from Catholics towards Protestants . The Catholic approach is not as extreme. Again, this is not to say Cathokics are incapable of extremism.
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I believe one is completely free to disagree with the Catholic Church. Catholics are free to disagree with Evangelicals. Where I draw the line is when the personal attacks come in.
 
aidanbradypop said:
I believe one is completely free to disagree with the Catholic Church. Catholics are free to disagree with Evangelicals. Where I draw the line is when the personal attacks come in.
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I will only attack you over the Red Sox, bro. 😃
 
aidanbradypop said:
I believe one is completely free to disagree with the Catholic Church. Catholics are free to disagree with Evangelicals. Where I draw the line is when the personal attacks come in.
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That and misinformation, whether passed on deliberately or not. No one should say anything about another religion/philosophy, etc. without knowing what he is saying. Passing along rumors or biases shouldn’t be done by anyone. 🙂
 
Della said:
That and misinformation, whether passed on deliberately or not. No one should say anything about another religion/philosophy, etc. without knowing what he is saying. Passing along rumors or biases shouldn’t be done by anyone. 🙂
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👍 It starts with us
 
pablope said:
Well…can you give an example of such erroneous attack by Catholics that are made on Protestants?
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Sure.

Attacking misconceptions of sola scriptura rather than what sola scriptura actually says

Claiming Martin Luther taught that works are not necessary (a Catholic professor actually said that once at a Catholic event I attended).
 
Jubilarian said:
There is some truth to your statement but I was referring more to the on line attack aimed at Catholicism by Protestant denominations. If you do a google search about the views of many Protestant groups you will see a plethora of the “whore of Babylon” type attacks. Many go so far as calling the CC demonic.

You just don’t see that type of approach from Catholics towards Protestants . The Catholic approach is not as extreme. Again, this is not to say Cathokics are incapable of extremism.
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I disagree. One Catholic priest’s blog I came across said Protestants have “another gospel.” And then there is Michael Voris of “The Vortex” Catholic TV.

And if you don’t restrict this to modern times, there is also the Council of Trent with its anathemas.
 
When every faith believes they have 100% of the truth, there is bound to be clashes there.
 
Koineman said:
Sure.

Attacking misconceptions of sola scriptura rather than what sola scriptura actually says

Claiming Martin Luther taught that works are not necessary (a Catholic professor actually said that once at a Catholic event I attended).
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Okay…but you can come up with one description of SS that all protestants will agree to?

There are so many versions of SS…so which one is the real one?
Claiming Martin Luther taught that works are not necessary
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So how can this one be an attack?
 
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