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h1478971
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can one get validly married and receive the Sacrament of Reconciliation at an FSSP and an SSPX parish?
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TempleofTheSoul
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The FSSP has never been out of communion with the Catholic Church, so yes, you can get married there and receive the sacrament of Reconciliation.
The SSPX is not yet in communion with Rome, so you cannot get married or confess at an SSPX parish.
God bless
The SSPX is not yet in communion with Rome, so you cannot get married or confess at an SSPX parish.
God bless
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ConstantineTG
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Of course you can in an FSSP parish! They are 100% in communion with Rome! 
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ProVobis
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Any priest must receive faculties from the local bishop in order to hear confessions or to witness a marriage. Although it is possible, but I haven’t heard of an FSSPX priest being given such faculties from his local bishop. Even if full communion were to be attained, those faculties could be denied.
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amlcssr
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This is not about communion with Rome. All SSPX priests are in communion with the Catholic Church. This is about suspension and faculties. An SSPX priest cannot validly witness a marriage or absolve a penitent due to lack of faculties.
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Aelred_Minor
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If there were a reconciliation between Rome and FSSPX then presumably it would be something like the Anglican ordinariates and their own bishops would be able to give the needed faculties to the priests of the fraternity.
For now, as others have said, these sacraments can be received validly from FSSP but not FSSPX.
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ProVobis
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I’m not sure how that would work. The territorial bishops are generally in charge of confessions and the lifting of certain excommunications within their diocese. Sometimes they provide the faculties to the priests to remove those excommunications and sometimes they don’t. If the bishop, for example, has himself excommunicated individuals for participation in, say, Call to Action, then I can see the requirement to approach the diocese to resolve the matter.
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TrueLight
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I can’t substantiate this but I have heard that some bishops quietly give certain faculties to certain SSPX priests.
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ConstantineTG
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Whats the point of this? Even if this were true, then said Bishops would also be violating Rome’s decree that the SSPX has no ministry in the Church.
I don’t get it. When liberal priests disobey the Vatican, they are condemned. When its disobedience for the SSPX, its applauded. This is cafeteria Catholicism at its worst.
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TheMc
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I didn’t see any applauding. The fact was simply stated.
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amlcssr
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There has been no such decree. There was a statement of fact. The two things are very different.
The question that comes to my mind is if a local bishop wished to grant faculties to the SSPX priests active in his diocese, how does that affect their suspension. As far as I know, it would not affect their suspension at all. So they would be in the very strange position of being suspended, and thus not able to legitimately hear confessions, but nonetheless possessing faculties for absolution?
I can only imagine that if such a thing is done, it is done with the knowledge and (at least tacit) approval of the Holy See.
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JReducation
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In Vatican jargon it means the same thing. There are many kinds of decree. Let’s not get stuck on the semantics.
This is impossible. No Ordinary can lift a suspension imposed by another unless he’s the superior of a religious order exercising authority over his own house. A superior can grant anyone faculties to hear confessions in his house for the members of his house. Generally, this is never done if you have been suspended by another person in authority.
A bishop does not have even that much power, because he is not the superior of a exempt house. Therefore, he cannot grant faculties to those who have lost them. They have to be returned by the authority who took them: another bishop, a religious superior, canon law, or the pope.
A bishop who attempts to do so, will be in serious trouble. Bishops have a lot of wiggle room on many things, but faculties is not one of those areas with a lot of wiggle room.
The reason is rather logical. To grant or take away faculties, you must have a canonical standing in the Church. Who are the only people who are Ordinaries? Diocesan bishops and religious superiors of men. Even auxiliary bishops are not Ordinaries, though the diocesan bishop can delegate authority to them as he does to the chancellor and to the vicar general.
Fraternally,
Br. JR, OSF
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TrueLight
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Constantine tends to be really passionate about certain things. It makes me smile.
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TheMc
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Being passionate isn’t a bad thing.Constantine tends to be really passionate about certain things. It makes me smile.
Revelation 3:15-16
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dans0622
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Hello,
SSPX: in ordinary circumstances, no, since they have no faculties for either Sacrament.
FSSP: in ordinary circumstances, yes, regarding Confession, since one would presume they all have the faculty. Regarding marriage, however, an FSSP priest only assists validly if at least one of the spouses is his “subject” (c. 1110). Practically, this would probably mean that the person has to be “registered” at the FSSP parish.
Another possibility is that the Bishop could grant this faculty to all FSSP priests so that they can validly assist at the marriage of any Catholic, subject or not. I would guess that this happens often…I hope it does, since the whole “membership/subject” issue is often quite murky.
Dan
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JReducation
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Usually, if you’re stationed in a diocese, you will be granted faculties by the local Ordinary, whether you’re diocesan, secular (ie. FSSP, Maryknoll, Missiunhurst, Vincentian, etc) or regular. There are times when you may be invited to celebrate a wedding of a relative or a friend and you’re not stationed in that diocese. The faculties are easy to get. You send you credentials to the pastor of the parish where the wedding will take place and he grants the faculties. In most dioceses, pastors can grant faculties to isolated events, such as one wedding. Religious superiors cannot grant faculties to witness weddings, because a wedding is not to be celebrated in a religious house. Religious superiors only have Ordinary jurisdiction on their premises.
Fraternally,
Br. JR, OSF
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thistle
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If you can’t substantiate it then you should not say it. It means you are spreading gossip.
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SaintGobban
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This link offers an explanation of why confessions and marriages are valid:
gloria.tv/?media=59339
There are other places where the exact same thing is published.
gloria.tv/?media=59339
There are other places where the exact same thing is published.
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TrueLight
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Edited: I’m going to not answer in the way the flesh wants me to.
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JReducation
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Once the pope says that you have no canonical ministry, the law does not apply. The pope overrules the law since he is the Living Law. This was established by St. Boniface.
There are situations, in which a bishop can grant a suspended priest faculties to grant absolution, even when there is no danger of death. That is the prudential judgment of the diocesan bishop and it can only be granted in a case by case basis. Each time you need it, you have to ask for the faculties to absolve.
As we already know, you never need to ask in an emergency.
Fraternally,
Br. JR, OSF
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