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MrZetterlund
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I was wondering if anyone knew any Bible prophecies that have been fulfilled that are NOT MESSIANIC. Also, does anyone have any valid reasons for believing in the existance of God?
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JohnDamian
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Some prophesy’s that were fulfilled are here, this is not an exhaustive list;
Edom would fall Jeremiah 49:16
Egypt would not rule again Ezekiel 29:15
Niniveh would be destroyed Nahum 3:19
Babylon’s gates would open for Cyrus Isaiah 45:1
Babylon would be reduced to swampland Isaiah 14:23
Jesus told Peter that the church would survive and thrive Matthew 16:17-18
Jesus said His words would never be forgotten Luke 21:33
As for reasons for believing in God, I’ll provide a link here for Bl John Duns Scotus logical argument for the existance of God.
ewtn.com/library/THEOLOGY/GODASFIR.HTM
Edom would fall Jeremiah 49:16
Egypt would not rule again Ezekiel 29:15
Niniveh would be destroyed Nahum 3:19
Babylon’s gates would open for Cyrus Isaiah 45:1
Babylon would be reduced to swampland Isaiah 14:23
Jesus told Peter that the church would survive and thrive Matthew 16:17-18
Jesus said His words would never be forgotten Luke 21:33
As for reasons for believing in God, I’ll provide a link here for Bl John Duns Scotus logical argument for the existance of God.
ewtn.com/library/THEOLOGY/GODASFIR.HTM
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MrZetterlund
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Fifty SIX VIEWS and NO reponses! WOW! That’s not a good sign… :manvspc:
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MrZetterlund
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Ah. You must have responded as I was typing. Thank you, friend.Some prophesy’s that were fulfilled are here, this is not an exhaustive list;
Edom would fall Jeremiah 49:16
Egypt would not rule again Ezekiel 29:15
Niniveh would be destroyed Nahum 3:19
Babylon’s gates would open for Cyrus Isaiah 45:1
Babylon would be reduced to swampland Isaiah 14:23
Jesus told Peter that the church would survive and thrive Matthew 16:17-18
Jesus said His words would never be forgotten Luke 21:33
As for reasons for believing in God, I’ll provide a link here for Bl John Duns Scotus logical argument for the existance of God.
ewtn.com/library/THEOLOGY/GODASFIR.HTM
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JonathonofOhio
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Do some research on the Theory of Relativity. Even Einstein admitted that without a god , his theory was useless (though he never thought that there was a ‘personal god’ so he never was a religious person). In looking at modern science, it appears that all matter (space) and time were created, in that all things have a beginning and an end. So no matter how far you go back through the created, eventually you reach that which is not created. Since all things created are finite, then that which is uncreated is infinite in every way. Now, whether or not God is a personal God, and has some deep relationship with his creation, I guess there is no acceptable evidence to the scientific community yet. I won’t wait around for them to accept the evidence though, I’ll just keep on worshiping God and listening to Him.
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Nita
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Common sense - in its ordinary and Aristotelian/Thomistic meaning. And also as outlined by St. Paul:
Romans 1:20 Ever since the creation of the world his invisible nature, namely, his eternal power and deity, has been clearly perceived in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse;
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_Locke
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I believe the exact quote is - “Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind.”, which is hardly the same thing as saying that his theory was useless without God.
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Viki63
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I am looking forward to Robert Spitzer’s new book, New Proofs for the Existence of God.
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JonathonofOhio
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Well I wasn’t actually going for an exact quote, but I was summarizing all that I’ve read concerning his comments on religion and the existence of God, and his journals concerning Relativity (English translations of course, I can’t speak German). Einstein was no Atheist, and his theory is garbage if there is no god. I stand by my comment, because I did not use quotation marks anywhere in my reply.
“Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind.” <— I agree with this saying.
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_Locke
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"I received your letter of June 10th. I have never talked to a Jesuit priest in my life and I am astonished by the audacity to tell such lies about me. From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been an atheist. " - Albert Einstein, letter to Guy H. Raner Jr, July 2, 1945, responding to a rumor that a Jesuit priest had caused Einstein to convert from atheism; quoted by Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic, Vol. 5, No. 2
“I believe in Spinoza’s God, who reveals Himself in the lawful harmony of the world, not in a God Who concerns Himself with the fate and the doings of mankind.” - Einstein to Rabbi Herbert S. Goldstein, 1929
Spinoza’s God (purely philosophical, abstract and impersonal) is hardly the God of theism. I haven’t found a single thing of Einstein has written or said which would lead me to believe he was a theist.
Well there’s a complete non sequitur.
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wanstronian
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I don’t believe that any biblical prophecies can both be *proved *to have been fulfilled (rather than simply documented as such), AND are specific enough that coincidence and passage of time wouldn’t have fulfilled them eventually anyway.
As for valid reasons for belief, ‘valid’ is subjective. There are people on this forum that find many of the ‘logical’ proofs for God ‘valid.’ I am not one of them - although I firmly and honestly believe that if I had a pre-existing belief in God, I would also find them valid.
As for valid reasons for belief, ‘valid’ is subjective. There are people on this forum that find many of the ‘logical’ proofs for God ‘valid.’ I am not one of them - although I firmly and honestly believe that if I had a pre-existing belief in God, I would also find them valid.
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