Fundamentalist End is Nigh fever

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Left and right fundamentalists are claiming the end is right at the door because of the “signs” they claim “oh we can’t know the day nor the hour but we can at least know the season and its right at the door!”

Im sorry, but there have been periods of time were it was just as bad,

Middle Ages

Great Depression

the 1st and 2nd world wars

is there an end to their madness?🤷
 
I’m not sure it’s “madness”. It’s a belief based on a combination of individual interpretation of the bible (common to all proestants) and reflection on societal decay that’s pretty hard to ignore.

I don’t buy into it. After all, Jesus said we can’t know the day or the hour of the end of the world. So we don’t. But people have believed this more or less constantly from the early Christians (many, many of whom seem to have believed it about to happen in their time) to today.

But “madness”? No. Errors in self-interpretation of the bible and the world around them? Yes.
 
Though we don’t know the day or the hour, I do recall Jesus saying that, in the last days, they would teach that it is wrong to marry.

They are getting pretty close to that.

Even in times of great persecution, torture and wholesale death of Christians, they didn’t teach what they do now about it–throughout the Western world I might add.

We are at least getting closer–that much we know.
 
This obsession was the driving force that led me away from the charismatic/Pentecostal churches in the late 90s. Oh, how I could go on and on and on!
 
bsroufek said:
Though we don’t know the day or the hour, I do recall Jesus saying that, in the last days, they would teach that it is wrong to marry.

They are getting pretty close to that.

Even in times of great persecution, torture and wholesale death of Christians, they didn’t teach what they do now about it–throughout the Western world I might add.

We are at least getting closer–that much we know.
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Well Im not saying its near, but Im not saying its close either, we are merely short-lived irrational beings so we can never be too sure, remember God’s view of time and ours are COMPLETELY different views!

“It is wrong to marry” that notions been around for decades! not making fun of you at all, but honestly I doubt it will be in our lifetime, but then again in the end your never promised tomorrow!
 
Retro_Ace said:
Left and right “fundies” are claiming the end is right at the door because of the “signs” they claim “oh we can’t know the day nor the hour but we can at least know the season and its right at the door!”

Im sorry, but there have been periods of time were it was just as bad,

Middle Ages

Great Depression

the 1st and 2nd world wars

is there an end to their madness?🤷
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Why does it bother you? Why make fun of those who believe in Christ and watch for His second coming? Jesus did say that we would recognize the season.
 
Im not trying to make fun of anyone, I am aware about Jesus one day returning as he promised! I am all for that! But it gets me rather agitated because the way they talk about it as a day of fear than rejoice, also I was taught its not our business when to say the time is nigh, thats God’s shot to call, and recalling such dark times before Jesus could have returned by then too! The point Im saying is there is no point for trying to find the end of the world, we can only just live our lives as christians to the fullest! God put you on this Earth to live life so do so!
 
Retro_Ace said:
Left and right “fundies” are claiming the end is right at the door because of the “signs” they claim “oh we can’t know the day nor the hour but we can at least know the season and its right at the door!”

Im sorry, but there have been periods of time were it was just as bad,

Middle Ages

Great Depression

the 1st and 2nd world wars

is there an end to their madness?🤷
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The Black Death

great famines off & on (mostly on) for many centuries

The French Revolution

Cambodia under Pol Pot

Slavery - especially if you were the slave

Much more but it’s late & my memory doesn’t work well when it’s past it’s bedtime. 😃

To paraphrase Cardinal Newman, “To be deep in history is to cease thinking we are living in the worst times.”

There is a book - by a Protestant - titled “End Times Madness.” The author doesn’t think much of it. 😃
 
why be preoccuppied about endtimes when it is certain that we will all one die
 
As a Protestant, I don’t think we’re quite there yet. Let’s look at an often overlooked statement by Jesus Christ about the end of days:

Matthew 24:14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

We still got a way to go. We shouldn’t be focused on wars, famines, and all the bad things that will certainly come to pass; rather we should be focused on spreading the Gospel to all the world, and all the nations. Not necessarily so that the end will come, but because we are commanded to and the end of days will not come until this has been accomplished.
 
As St peter tells us in his sermon in Acts the end times begun with Christs resurection. Also St John in his first letter very clearly lets us know that we are in the last age of time.
I can not understand all of this speculation about the so called end times, we have been in the end times for 2000 years, every day since the resurection IS the last day. And as St Peter reminds us a 1000 years is but a day to the eternal God and a day a 1000 years. So as far as God is concerned we have only been going about a day and a half since Christ’s attonement. Who knows God may give it a month or even a year?
All of this end time specultion spread by such academic minnows such as Hal Lindsy forces the words of Christ and for that matter all Sacred Scripture into the narrow lens of Disspensational Millennieumism popularised by fringe protostants such as Nelson Darby and then used as justifacation for the American restorationists of the 19th Century such as William Millar it then spawned countless heretical movements such as the Adventists and Jehovah Wittnesses who are obssesed by it, it was picked up by the Fundamentalists and became popularised folk lore through the Schofield refernce bible. And all it has achieved is confusion and fear, it is unscriptual as Christ tells us in Matthew 24 and has been responsable for leading millions away from the true message of christ and his church and enslaving them to a mirried of Legalistic, Fundamentalist and in some casses Radicalised Sects.
The Churcu Millitant sojorns here on earth within history and time at the forbarence, paitence and love of God so that all may have the oppurtunity to repent and gain salvation and eternal life through the Grace of Christ.

End Times??? Come on, get with the picture, the end times have been upon us for quite sometime now.
 
For a specific example, I’ve noticed in the past year or two that Pastor Chuck Smith from Calvary Chapel has been really pushing the whole idea that the signs are there for imminent second coming. It is completely reckless speculation on my part, but I don’t think it’s a coincidence that this has occurred after he’s suffered some health scares.
 
All my life i’ve heard this. I live in a heavily Protestant area.

Whole denominations have spung up over this , JHW. According to them Christ was supposed to come back in 1950. I bet during WWII they had a real jump in converts.
2 things come to mind.

-Jesus said no one knows the day or the hour.
-He says he will come like a theif in the night. In otherwords no one will be expecting it.
 
Retro_Ace said:
Left and right fundamentalists are claiming the end is right at the door because of the “signs” they claim “oh we can’t know the day nor the hour but we can at least know the season and its right at the door!”

Im sorry, but there have been periods of time were it was just as bad,

Middle Ages

Great Depression

the 1st and 2nd world wars

is there an end to their madness?🤷
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I have a friend who went from Agnostic to Baptist after he was convinced that the birds dying and falling from the sky in Arkansas on New Years Day 2011 was a sign of the “end times”. I
tried to tell him that it was a bunch of rubbish but he persisted. Since were all reading this thread, the end, as it turned out, wasnt so nigh after all. Suffice it to say, while that episode did convert him personally to Christianity, he doesnt take these alleged signs as seriously anymore.

People have been predicting the end times or some variation thereof in most faiths and religions at various points in modern human history. Theyve all been wrong.

Clearly, either they’re just crazy people or they were, in actuality, right and the Doctor has been flying around time and space in the Tardis preventing these various apocalypses from occurring.
 
Mike_from_NJ said:
but I don’t think it’s a coincidence that this has occurred after he’s suffered some health scares.
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You hit on something very important.
The older people get, or sometimes the more illness that strikes them, the easier it is for them to fall into depression and they cannot imagine the world going on much longer without them. Just an observation I’ve made over the years. You don’t find too many healthy, young people obsessed with the end of the world. It seems to be the hobby of older evangelists like John Hagee.
 
Matt_Guitar_Man said:
As St peter tells us in his sermon in Acts the end times begun with Christs resurection. Also St John in his first letter very clearly lets us know that we are in the last age of time.
I can not understand all of this speculation about the so called end times, we have been in the end times for 2000 years, every day since the resurection IS the last day. And as St Peter reminds us a 1000 years is but a day to the eternal God and a day a 1000 years. So as far as God is concerned we have only been going about a day and a half since Christ’s attonement. Who knows God may give it a month or even a year?
All of this end time specultion spread by such academic minnows such as Hal Lindsy forces the words of Christ and for that matter all Sacred Scripture into the narrow lens of Disspensational Millennieumism popularised by fringe protostants such as Nelson Darby and then used as justifacation for the American restorationists of the 19th Century such as William Millar it then spawned countless heretical movements such as the Adventists and Jehovah Wittnesses who are obssesed by it, it was picked up by the Fundamentalists and became popularised folk lore through the Schofield refernce bible. And all it has achieved is confusion and fear, it is unscriptual as Christ tells us in Matthew 24 and has been responsable for leading millions away from the true message of christ and his church and enslaving them to a mirried of Legalistic, Fundamentalist and in some casses Radicalised Sects.
The Churcu Millitant sojorns here on earth within history and time at the forbarence, paitence and love of God so that all may have the oppurtunity to repent and gain salvation and eternal life through the Grace of Christ.

End Times??? Come on, get with the picture, the end times have been upon us for quite sometime now.
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Once again making it impossible to tell if we are close or not so what is the sense for looking for it?
 
Retro_Ace said:
Once again making it impossible to tell if we are close or not so what is the sense for looking for it?
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When Jesus spoke of the very end, He said that if those days were not shortened, even the elect would be deceived. He even told us to ‘watch’… several times. He also said we would know and recognize the season. Why would he tell us things that would be unimportant? Better yet, if it were unimportant, why would it have even then been written down later on?

Just because throughout history people thought it was ‘the season’ but were wrong does not mean that we should not watch for it at all.

The point in watching is:

A.) Not to be fooled by the anti-christ when he appears- it won’t be as easy as Hollywood makes it seem like it will be if the Gospel- Christ’s words Himself -says that even the elect might be deceived.

B.) To be ready for when Christ returns and also to help others to get ready as that is what servants do- they continue to work for their master even when the going gets tough.

I’d have to say a large part of “looking for it” is a part of doing what Christ said to do… That’s the ‘why’ of it. Only some may take it way out of context or get boogety-boo with it- maybe even for manipulative reasons. It happens. Its all a part of gaining prudence and wisdom when seeking God. Lessons to be learned, sought.

The bride seeks the bridegroom. She anxiously awaits to be with Him.
 
Retro_Ace said:
Left and right fundamentalists are claiming the end is right at the door because of the “signs” they claim “oh we can’t know the day nor the hour but we can at least know the season and its right at the door!”

Im sorry, but there have been periods of time were it was just as bad,

Middle Ages

Great Depression

the 1st and 2nd world wars

is there an end to their madness?🤷
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Oh! How very terrible those times will be, much worse than has ever occurred in history!
 
Steveabrous said:
All my life i’ve heard this. I live in a heavily Protestant area.

Whole denominations have spung up over this , JHW. According to them Christ was supposed to come back in 1950. I bet during WWII they had a real jump in converts.
2 things come to mind.

-Jesus said no one knows the day or the hour.
-He says he will come like a theif in the night. In otherwords no one will be expecting it.
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I live in the same area, and I have heard it all my life as well. There is a certain brand of protestantism that goes in for this. Probably they did 150 years ago as well.
 
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