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So far no one has discussed what fundamentalists actually believe. Is there something wrong with the five tenants of fundamentalism?
Are they contrary to what the cc teaches?
I was born and raised catholic went to eight years of catholic grammar school taught by the nuns. I don’t see anything here that I can remember that contradicts what I was taught.

1 The inerrancy of the Bible

2 The literal nature of the Biblical accounts, especially regarding Christ’s miracles and the Creation account in Genesis.

3 The Virgin Birth of Christ

4 The bodily resurrection and physical return of Christ

5 The substitutionary atonement of Christ on the cross
 
So far no one has discussed what fundamentalists actually believe. Is there something wrong with the five tenants of fundamentalism?
Are they contrary to what the cc teaches?
I was born and raised catholic went to eight years of catholic grammar school taught by the nuns. I don’t see anything here that I can remember that contradicts what I was taught.

1 The inerrancy of the Bible

2 The literal nature of the Biblical accounts, especially regarding Christ’s miracles and the Creation account in Genesis.

3 The Virgin Birth of Christ

4 The bodily resurrection and physical return of Christ

5 The substitutionary atonement of Christ on the cross
I took the thread to be concerning “fundamentalists” of any faith tradition…not Fundamenatlsts of a few narrow sects of Protestantism as you outlined. There are “fundamentalist Muslims”, “fundamentalist Mormons”, 'fundamentalist XYZ" and all of them share a certain “quality” of their faith tradition…where by they see ANY modernity in religious matters as an attack on “faith”.

Karen Armstrong makes this case in her book “Battle for God”.
 
So far no one has discussed what fundamentalists actually believe. Is there something wrong with the five tenants of fundamentalism?
Are they contrary to what the cc teaches?
I was born and raised catholic went to eight years of catholic grammar school taught by the nuns. I don’t see anything here that I can remember that contradicts what I was taught.

1 The inerrancy of the Bible

2 The literal nature of the Biblical accounts, especially regarding Christ’s miracles and the Creation account in Genesis.

3 The Virgin Birth of Christ

4 The bodily resurrection and physical return of Christ

5 The substitutionary atonement of Christ on the cross
There is nothing here, to my knowledge, that contradicts Catholic teaching with the exception of the inerrancy of the Bible. I appreciate may be what you were taught, but I was never taught the Bible is inerrant, and I was never taught the Catholic teaches the Bible is inerrant. In addition, I was taught the Bible does have a literal meaning, but the entire Bible should not be read literally as it has a pluralistic meaning. I was also taught yes, Jesus performed miracles, but whether the miracles are recorded literally in scripture as they actually happened is another matter. I was taught the Church does not have a definitive teaching concerning the inerrancy of scripture and the literal nature of the Genesis accounts. However, neither was I taught this is not true and to believe it contrary to Catholic teaching. On the other hand, I was never taught these are fundamental truths that must be believed in order to be Catholic or to enter heaven.

You don’t have to be a fundamentalist to believe in the Virgin Birth. What you need to believe in Virgin Birth is belief in the Incarnation, which is the central teaching of Catholicism, not the inerrancy of scripture and the literal nature of the Genesis accounts of creation. Neither do you have to believe in the inerrancy of scripture and the literal nature of the Genesis accounts to believe in the bodily resurrection and physical return of Christ, or the substitutionary atonement of Christ on the cross.
 
So far no one has discussed what fundamentalists actually believe. Is there something wrong with the five tenants of fundamentalism?
Because that’s not the purpose of the thread.
The purpose of this thread is to discuss the psychology of why people BECOME fundamentalists, Protestant, Catholic, or otherwise.
 
I took the thread to be concerning “fundamentalists” of any faith tradition…not Fundamenatlsts of a few narrow sects of Protestantism as you outlined. There are “fundamentalist Muslims”, “fundamentalist Mormons”, 'fundamentalist XYZ" and all of them share a certain “quality” of their faith tradition…where by they see ANY modernity in religious matters as an attack on “faith”.

Karen Armstrong makes this case in her book “Battle for God”.
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So far no one has discussed what fundamentalists actually believe. Is there something wrong with the five tenants of fundamentalism?
Are they contrary to what the cc teaches?
I was born and raised catholic went to eight years of catholic grammar school taught by the nuns. I don’t see anything here that I can remember that contradicts what I was taught.

1 The inerrancy of the Bible

2 The literal nature of the Biblical accounts, especially regarding Christ’s miracles and the Creation account in Genesis.

3 The Virgin Birth of Christ

4 The bodily resurrection and physical return of Christ

5 The substitutionary atonement of Christ on the cross
There are different lists of the five “fundamentals.” As you list them, 1 is officially taught in Catholicism, but understood in a much more nuanced way than in fundamentalism. 2 is not–certainly not with regard to the creation account. (However, one can certainly be an orthodox Catholic and take a literal view of the creation account if one wishes to do so strange a thing.) The Gospel miracles are different–the Catholic Church teaches that the Gospel describes what Jesus really said and did for our salvation, and it certainly teaches that Jesus worked miracles. But even there, Catholics do not necessarily consider themselves bound to take every miracle story literally as far as I can tell–that’s more controversial though, and I’m sure many here will disagree with me. 3 and 4 are Catholic teaching (lumping together two different things under 4 seems odd), but 4 is understood by fundamentalists very differently than by Catholics (in the narrowest sense, fundamentalism is dispensationalist, though many framers of the original “five fundamentals” were not). 5 is not Catholic teaching as understood by fundamentalists, though the differences may seem highly nuanced to many folks.

More to the point, though, “fundamentalism” has come to mean more a particular attitude to the faith. The original “fundamentalists” who drew up the list of five fundamentals were rather different than the contemporary brand. The term has come to refer to those who not only hold conservative beliefs but practice strict separation from all who do not believe exactly as they do. Fundamentalism is sectarian and schismatic, and has no patience for nuance or ambiguity.

Edwin
 
Okay professor, ya lost me.😃
No matter how much I fake being a gorilla, the San Diego zoo will not admit me.
My essence of being, my DNA will remain human no how many bananas I eat. No matter how hard I pretend to be holy, to have all the spiritual answers, and to “fit in with those who do” I am still hopelessly human and flawed. “Pretending” and lying to oneself does not acheve the same result as accepting who I am and relying on God to change me.
You totally lost me with how that is a Catholic/Orthodox concept.
One of the reasons I returned to the Catholic Church was to escape the fake world of fundamentalism and re-enter reality.
Yes, but my point is that one of the reasons Catholicism is more “genuine” than fundamentalism is that it’s less concerned with not being “fake.”

Here’s what I mean.

If you go to a Catholic priest and confess your sins, what will he say? Won’t he generally say something like, “Say such-and-such prayers and resolve to do better.” In Catholicism, the way to God is through specific actions. If you don’t have the right feelings, well, you do the actions anyway and trust in God to work in your heart. That’s what I take “fake it till you make it” to refer to–perhaps I am wrong. Of course from a Catholic point of view it wouldn’t be faking it–no question that that particular way of putting it can be highly misleading.

In fundamentalism, there’s a lot of suspicion of this approach, which is seen as “works righteousness” and as hypocritical. You’re supposed to do everything out of gratitude for the salvation you have received. But at the same time, if you don’t do such and such–and indeed, if you don’t fit certain specific cultural patterns (which may include such things as a clean-cut appearance, a firm handshake, a love of sports and hunting, etc., if you are a fundamentalist man, at least in the rural South–obviously women have their own set of expectations)–you may be suspected of being “fake.” This of course leads to actual “faking,” as people try to mimic the expected behavior in order to appear genuine. Hence, I was suggesting somewhat with my tongue in cheek that “fake it till you make it” is actually a step in the right direction, acknowledging openly that the path to a right spiritual condition may begin with certain behaviors.

I guess my response was influenced by C. S. Lewis (who himself was following Aristotle). Lewis suggested that if we act as if we were better than we are, we may in fact become better. My point is that Catholic soteriology has a way of explaining this phenomenon–fundamentalist soteriology doesn’t.

Edwin
 
More to the point, though, “fundamentalism” has come to mean more a particular attitude to the faith. The original “fundamentalists” who drew up the list of five fundamentals were rather different than the contemporary brand. The term has come to refer to those who not only hold conservative beliefs but practice strict separation from all who do not believe exactly as they do. Fundamentalism is sectarian and schismatic, and has no patience for nuance or ambiguity.

Edwin
AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!
I’m in the process of changing from a classical Fundamentalist to a neo-Fundamentalist!
need to pray…
 
Yes, but my point is that one of the reasons Catholicism is more “genuine” than fundamentalism is that it’s less concerned with not being “fake.”

Here’s what I mean.

If you go to a Catholic priest and confess your sins, what will he say? Won’t he generally say something like, “Say such-and-such prayers and resolve to do better.” In Catholicism, the way to God is through specific actions. If you don’t have the right feelings, well, you do the actions anyway and trust in God to work in your heart. That’s what I take “fake it till you make it” to refer to–perhaps I am wrong. Of course from a Catholic point of view it wouldn’t be faking it–no question that that particular way of putting it can be highly misleading.

In fundamentalism, there’s a lot of suspicion of this approach, which is seen as “works righteousness” and as hypocritical. You’re supposed to do everything out of gratitude for the salvation you have received. But at the same time, if you don’t do such and such–and indeed, if you don’t fit certain specific cultural patterns (which may include such things as a clean-cut appearance, a firm handshake, a love of sports and hunting, etc., if you are a fundamentalist man, at least in the rural South–obviously women have their own set of expectations)–you may be suspected of being “fake.” This of course leads to actual “faking,” as people try to mimic the expected behavior in order to appear genuine. Hence, I was suggesting somewhat with my tongue in cheek that “fake it till you make it” is actually a step in the right direction, acknowledging openly that the path to a right spiritual condition may begin with certain behaviors.

I guess my response was influenced by C. S. Lewis (who himself was following Aristotle). Lewis suggested that if we act as if we were better than we are, we may in fact become better. My point is that Catholic soteriology has a way of explaining this phenomenon–fundamentalist soteriology doesn’t.

Edwin
That’s what I figured you were saying. Just wanted you to “dumb it down” for us nitwits out here. 👍
Curious you bring up Confession. I have thought about that in relation to this subject. The fundamentalist mindset is obsessed with the idea of trying to look sinless and pure. But since they have no concept of the Catholic Sacrament of Confession, many are driven to despair over sin. Despite thier contention that they can “simply confess to God alone”, there is no assurance of sins forgiven, so the only path they have (and this is from personal experience and observation) is to fall into denial (ignore it) and continue “faking”.
The fundy preacher in question never explained what “make it” looked like. Thus, like all fundamentalists, he is trapped forever in “fake it” mode.
For a Catholic, “doing specific things”, whether I feel like it or not is an aknowledgement of my tendancy toward sin and my need to trust God to mold me into the kind of Christian I am to be. IOW, the Catholic would not say “fake it”, as the means to which we deal with sin. Confession is simply the process God set down. We cannot improve or replace that process. When we do that, “fake it” is the only option humans have. Fundamentalists want instantaneous results, without the sweat and struggle.
And, when you think about it, this holds true for nominal or fundamentalist Catholics as well.
 
Because that’s not the purpose of the thread.
The purpose of this thread is to discuss the psychology of why people BECOME fundamentalists, Protestant, Catholic, or otherwise.
Coming back to the purpose of the thread - the psychology of why people become fundamentalists -

I would argue lots of people don’t become fundamentalists, but are conditioned to be fundamentalists from an early age. There are people who were brought up fundamentalists. As such, it not a case that they BECAME fundamentalists so much as they always were because they were not offered any other choice. If they were conditioned to think that way from an early age, and as they are taught it is right and true from an early age, and there are consequences of even questioning it, and they know of no reason why they should question it, it’s hardly surprising they embrace it. When they get older and are presented with challenges to their faith, they may begin to doubt, but they have been psychologically conditioned not to question from childhood because it is right and true, any doubts must be false, and giving serious consideration to challenges means you are not a ‘good Christian’ and you are displeasing God.

Overturning such is ingrained beliefs is no easy task, and people who leave religions that place a high demand of obedience on their members often have a pretty rough time. They also go through a crises of faith and can end up loosing their faith altogether. Therefore, accepting it and toeing the line is the easier option as not to do so has consequences that people find it difficult to deal with as they have been conditioned not to be able to. All in all, I would say such people have not become fundamentalists because they did not make a free and voluntary choice.

Of course there are people who do become fundamentalists, and I have a more cynical theory on that. Firstly, it appeals to them because they gain the approval of others. People with a low self-esteem will desire the approval of others, and fundamentalism gives them the opportunity to attain that as the approval of others features highly - ‘I believe everything, I’m trying to be good and do everything right’ will gain them the approval they desire. Secondly, you have a point about pride. Fundamentalism appeals to pride in that it tends to be very patriarchal. As such, it offers men who desire status, importance and have others to look up to them an opportunity to satisfy that pride that would not be afforded them in many mainstream Christian denominations. For example, in the JW’s an ‘elder’ does not have to be educated beyond knowing the ‘society’s’ literature inside out. It is my experience almost all men will be made ‘elders’ if they are enthusiastic, hang around long enough, and toe the party line thereby gaining the approval of others. Such men would probably go largely unnoticed in a mainstream Christian denomination. The same can be said of ‘pastors’ in Christian denominations outside the mainstream.

Women gain approval by toeing the line on patriarchy and ‘knowing their place.’ However, a hierarchy develops among women in that the wife of an ‘elder’ or ‘pastor’ is held in higher regard and as such, some assume an unofficial role of ‘elder’ or ‘pastor’ in their relationship with other women - perhaps to compensate for the fact they are so suppressed in other ways and it is their only outlet in coping with that suppression. One thing I noticed in the JW’s is women love to ‘teach.’ A significant percentage of the ‘door to door’ work and ‘bible studies’ is carried out by women, because the men are too busy being ‘elders,’ which enables them to feel good about themselves and gains that much wanted approval of others.

OK - that’s the theory. Now you can pick it apart. 😃
 
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The term has come to refer to those who not only hold conservative beliefs but practice strict separation from all who do not believe exactly as they do. Fundamentalism is sectarian and schismatic, and has no patience for nuance or ambiguity.
Any belief system that claims “truth” as its basis by its nature has to be sectarian to a point otherwise they will cease to be. How can you really believe something and claim to be bound by it but then deny it by your practice? The cc has pronounced all that leave it to be accursed and going to hell. That’s as sectarian as it gets.

God literally separated Israel from those neighboring around them with a strict warning and had “no patience for nuance or ambiguity.” Israel brought judgment upon themselves every time they crossed that line. In the NT God still calls for separation. 2Chor. 6:14-17 Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? 15 What harmony is there between Christ and Belia? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? 16What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: “I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people.”
17“Therefore come out from them
and be separate,
says the Lord.

That being said we are called to be in the world and not of it. That means not denying your core values.
 
Coming back to the purpose of the thread - the psychology of why people become fundamentalists -

I would argue lots of people don’t become fundamentalists, but are conditioned to be fundamentalists from an early age. There are people who were brought up fundamentalists. As such, it not a case that they BECAME fundamentalists so much as they always were because they were not offered any other choice. If they were conditioned to think that way from an early age, and as they are taught it is right and true from an early age, and there are consequences of even questioning it, and they know of no reason why they should question it, it’s hardly surprising they embrace it. When they get older and are presented with challenges to their faith, they may begin to doubt, but they have been psychologically conditioned not to question from childhood because it is right and true, any doubts must be false, and giving serious consideration to challenges means you are not a ‘good Christian’ and you are displeasing God.

Overturning such is ingrained beliefs is no easy task, and people who leave religions that place a high demand of obedience on their members often have a pretty rough time. They also go through a crises of faith and can end up loosing their faith altogether. Therefore, accepting it and toeing the line is the easier option as not to do so has consequences that people find it difficult to deal with as they have been conditioned not to be able to. All in all, I would say such people have not become fundamentalists because they did not make a free and voluntary choice.

Of course there are people who do become fundamentalists, and I have a more cynical theory on that. Firstly, it appeals to them because they gain the approval of others. People with a low self-esteem will desire the approval of others, and fundamentalism gives them the opportunity to attain that as the approval of others features highly - ‘I believe everything, I’m trying to be good and do everything right’ will gain them the approval they desire. Secondly, you have a point about pride. Fundamentalism appeals to pride in that it tends to be very patriarchal. As such, it offers men who desire status, importance and have others to look up to them an opportunity to satisfy that pride that would not be afforded them in many mainstream Christian denominations. For example, in the JW’s an ‘elder’ does not have to be educated beyond knowing the ‘society’s’ literature inside out. It is my experience almost all men will be made ‘elders’ if they are enthusiastic, hang around long enough, and toe the party line thereby gaining the approval of others. Such men would probably go largely unnoticed in a mainstream Christian denomination. The same can be said of ‘pastors’ in Christian denominations outside the mainstream.

Women gain approval by toeing the line on patriarchy and ‘knowing their place.’ However, a hierarchy develops among women in that the wife of an ‘elder’ or ‘pastor’ is held in higher regard and as such, some assume an unofficial role of ‘elder’ or ‘pastor’ in their relationship with other women - perhaps to compensate for the fact they are so suppressed in other ways and it is their only outlet in coping with that suppression. One thing I noticed in the JW’s is women love to ‘teach.’ A significant percentage of the ‘door to door’ work and ‘bible studies’ is carried out by women, because the men are too busy being ‘elders,’ which enables them to feel good about themselves and gains that much wanted approval of others.

OK - that’s the theory. Now you can pick it apart. 😃
I can’t speak for JWs. My experience with fundamentalism was with independent, fundamental, Baptists. And here’s a curious fact, most kids who grow up fundy don’t stay fundy.
Look at what this lady says on a similar thread I started on the Stuff Fundies Like Forum, an experience I can verify:
Then there are those of us who had no choice and were raised in it. I can remember wanting to be free of those restrictions because they made no sense to me. I could logically argue my way around them in my head (didn’t dare say my objections out loud because that would get you trouble) and when I became an adult I did leave but came out of it with a warped sense of the world. They were constantly underestimating me which led to me underestimating myself which is something I still battle at this late date.
When one looks at fundamentalist families you see much division. The children rarely follow in their parents footsteps and wind up either in atheism or a cult. Sometimes they will go to a church, but not the kind of church their parents went to.
 
Any belief system that claims “truth” as its basis by its nature has to be sectarian to a point otherwise they will cease to be. How can you really believe something and claim to be bound by it but then deny it by your practice? The cc has pronounced all that leave it to be accursed and going to hell. That’s as sectarian as it gets.

God literally separated Israel from those neighboring around them with a strict warning and had “no patience for nuance or ambiguity.” Israel brought judgment upon themselves every time they crossed that line. In the NT God still calls for separation. 2Chor. 6:14-17 Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? 15 What harmony is there between Christ and Belia? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? 16What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: “I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people.”
17“Therefore come out from them
and be separate,
says the Lord.

That being said we are called to be in the world and not of it. That means not denying your core values.
So, are you saying there are no psychological/emotional reasons that explains why someone should be attracted to Christian fundamentalism, and the reason they are fundamentalists is a consequence of the belief separating oneself from those who are not fundamentalists is necessary for salvation?

Note - I am posing this as a question for the purpose of seeking clarity on your line of reasoning in order not to misinterpret your words, and to keep on the topic of the thread. As I understand it, the purpose of the thread is not should one be a fundamentalist or are fundamentalists ‘right,’ but is there some psychological/emotional reason why people are attracted to it.
 
Any belief system that claims “truth” as its basis by its nature has to be sectarian to a point otherwise they will cease to be. How can you really believe something and claim to be bound by it but then deny it by your practice? The cc has pronounced all that leave it to be accursed and going to hell. That’s as sectarian as it gets.

God literally separated Israel from those neighboring around them with a strict warning and had “no patience for nuance or ambiguity.” Israel brought judgment upon themselves every time they crossed that line. In the NT God still calls for separation. 2Chor. 6:14-17 Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? 15 What harmony is there between Christ and Belia? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? 16What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: “I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people.”
17“Therefore come out from them
and be separate,
says the Lord.

That being said we are called to be in the world and not of it. That means not denying your core values.
Ah yes, the old tried and found not to be true fundamentalist quoting of Corinthians to justify thier “separation” from those they do not agree with.
First, these verses are not talking about separation from other Christians, yet it is often used by fundamentalists as if it was.
Second, there’s a huge difference between living a life that honors God that makes one clearly different from the lives of those around us who don’t, and withdrawing ourselves completely from all interaction with people in the world and rejecting them and anything they do, say or create as evil.
 
Here is part of a blog post I wrote a couple years ago on the fundamentalist concept of “separation”.

I once heard a fundamentalist preacher say this about any association with Catholics:
“Ignoring their lost state, being tolerant of their false doctrine, and pretending they are one of us is not going to help them get saved.”
The bolded statement is an eye-opening glimpse into the dark pit of the fundamentalist soul. If one believes that he or she has experienced what no other has (being “born again”), and possesses what others other than them could not possibly have (the Holy Spirit), it creates an elitist world-view that allows only those to whom we agree with, to enter.
Over the years I have heard “that person is now a (insert opposition group here), so I had to ’break fellowship’ with them” This is the fundamentalist doctrine of “separation”. A superior, elitist attitude of belonging to a privileged group. Those who do not belong to the group are called “unrepentant brothers and false teachers”
The problem is, that encompasses quite a population if one takes that to its logical conclusion. This encompasses people far beyond hated Catholics and liberals. It also includes people within their own ‘circle’ with whom they disagree. To belong to this ever shrinking circle becomes the object they strive for.
In rationalizing that Christians who don’t agree with you are all “compromisers,” they assume that is the indicator of true spirituality.
They truly believe they are superior. This theological “rigidity” is more important than all other factors. And sadly, there is a trail of broken relationships in their past that is blamed on the actions of the people they “separated” from. Tragically, these broken relationships include family members and former friends.
This completely went against how I was raised by my parents. We did not abandon family and friends based on disagreements or world-view. Jesus taught us to love one another, not to pick and choose whom we love.
I believe one of the reasons fundamental Baptists think this way has to do with living in a fantasy world of their own making. They look to a reality that never existed, and hope for a Utopia that never will exist. When struck by the fact that it does not, it destroys their illusions and they lapse into cynicism and depression. They deal with this by altering reality through ‘separation’ from whatever or whoever is not like themselves and an end-times fairy tale which allows them to press on in world that does not accept them.
“Fellowshipping” with a group who truly believe they are better than others can be a surreal experience. It leads logically to exclusion based on reasons that hardly fit into their “Biblical world-view”. Many times it is based on race, class, education, and sex.
The sad part is, the longer one “fellowships” with fundamentalists, “separation” from them becomes a relief.
 
Fundamentalism is sectarian and schismatic, and has no patience for nuance or ambiguity.
I find it odd that ambiguity and nuance are desirable in academic culture today. Shouldn’t a theory be evaluated based on its explanation of truth. Why do I continue to see the phrase “it lacks nuance” as if that is the end of the argument? Now, sectarian and schismatic might be the truth.
 
I find it odd that ambiguity and nuance are desirable in academic culture today. Shouldn’t a theory be evaluated based on its explanation of truth. Why do I continue to see the phrase “it lacks nuance” as if that is the end of the argument? Now, sectarian and schismatic might be the truth.
Fundamentalism fears change. It fears any other way of looking at the Bible or the world around it. See my post above.
 
I find it odd that ambiguity and nuance are desirable in academic culture today. Shouldn’t a theory be evaluated based on its explanation of truth. Why do I continue to see the phrase “it lacks nuance” as if that is the end of the argument? Now, sectarian and schismatic might be the truth.
I can understand why you find it odd ambiguity and nuance are desirable in today’s academic culture. Today, we live in a culture that places an excessively high value on academic achievement and in addition, science and empirical evidence to the point were the limitations of science and empirical evidence are obscured. As such, ambiguity and nuance are treated with at best suspicion and at worst dismissed altogether.

There are those of the religious world that seek to uphold ambiguity and nuance as in their absence belief is discredited, they recognize the limitations of empirical evidence and science in terms of the search for truth, and seeks to promote values that are more important than academic prowess and re-establish them.

Contrary to contemporary culture, truth is not an easy thing establish irrevocably or even find. Truth is often nuanced and subject to ambiguity and one who genuinely seeks truth will accept this, and why they are considered desirable. Having said that, just because something lacks nuance or ambiguity does not mean it is not true. So no, it is not the end of the argument. Lack of nuance or ambiguity is not the only reason for rejection of fundamentalism.

Part of the appeal of fundamentalism is it offers certainty to an extent other denominations or religions can’t. As, such I can see why it has an appeal, particularly in our contemporary culture where irrevocable proof is demanded and empirical evidence held in such high regard. We humans by and large don’t like ‘mysteries,’ we like to solve them and we like certainty, and I have heard fundamentalists use the argument all we need to know is in the Bible, and if it’s not in the Bible then it is something we don’t need to know. This is not a view many would readily accept and where the nuance and ambiguity argument comes in. In relation to our journey of faith, the promptings of the Holy Spirit are often hidden and ambiguous. Catholics use the term ‘mystery’ - a term which is treated with suspicion in the Protestant world and in contemporary culture. God is not completely known to us, and life is not an x + y equation and often unpredictable. One who genuinely seeks truth accepts that and is prepared to reconsider their evaluations in light of a deeper understanding in the search for truth. So in terms of the search for truth, nuance and ambiguity has it’s place.
 
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