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When fundametalists say you have to recite the Sinner’s prayer in order to be saved, isn’t that considered superstition? At least I have been told you have to say certain words in order for the prayer to work.
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They don’t believe in using exact words. Just the general idea.
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bpcatholic
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Thanks!They don’t believe in using exact words. Just the general idea.
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BrianH
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Right the Sinners Prayer is different depending upon the group it seems. The Sinners prayer I prayed as a teenager was straight from sections of Romans I recall. Pretty standard stuff.
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Parce_Domine
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As I recall, you have to recite a basic prayer to “get saved.” Key phrases that have been consistent in my experience are, “accept Jesus Christ,” “personal savior,” and “into my heart.” (My experience is many years openly Catholic in the Bible Belt.)
Many people have explained to me that until I do this, I can’t get saved. In other words, you can’t get saved until you perform this deed: say the prayer. This work that they tell me is required to get saved (saying the prayer) is usually followed by an explanation that “you can’t work your way to heaven,” which is what, according to most of them, Catholics believe.
After several years of Bible research, prayer, and pondering this contradiction, I finally came to the conclusion that getting saved and being saved are two different things entirely. Getting saved is the personal acceptance of the redemption of all mankind. Being saved is a process, worked out with “fear and trembling,” and “persevering to the end,” among other things. Since then, I have found out I was at least on the right track. (If I’d started reading better books sooner, I’d have known this.)
Still, I’m not convinced this prayer makes them superstitious. I’m more concerned about “once saved, always saved.”
Many people have explained to me that until I do this, I can’t get saved. In other words, you can’t get saved until you perform this deed: say the prayer. This work that they tell me is required to get saved (saying the prayer) is usually followed by an explanation that “you can’t work your way to heaven,” which is what, according to most of them, Catholics believe.
After several years of Bible research, prayer, and pondering this contradiction, I finally came to the conclusion that getting saved and being saved are two different things entirely. Getting saved is the personal acceptance of the redemption of all mankind. Being saved is a process, worked out with “fear and trembling,” and “persevering to the end,” among other things. Since then, I have found out I was at least on the right track. (If I’d started reading better books sooner, I’d have known this.)
Still, I’m not convinced this prayer makes them superstitious. I’m more concerned about “once saved, always saved.”
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The sinner’s prayer is a call on the name of Jesus and a confession of repentance (a change of mind toward God and a complete turn and abhorrence towards sin in our life). In other words, a person confesses with the mouth and believes in his heart that he is a sinner in need of a savior, Jesus is the Son of God and Jesus alone paid his/her sin debt in full with His own blood on the cross at Calvary, died, and rose again. At that point we are forgiven of ALL sin and baptized with the Holy Spirit.When fundametalists say you have to recite the Sinner’s prayer in order to be saved, isn’t that considered superstition? At least I have been told you have to say certain words in order for the prayer to work.
Act 2:21 And it shall come to pass, [that] whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
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bpcatholic
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Right the Sinners Prayer is different depending upon the group it seems. The Sinners prayer I prayed as a teenager was straight from sections of Romans I recall. Pretty standard stuff.
As I recall, you have to recite a basic prayer to “get saved.” Key phrases that have been consistent in my experience are, “accept Jesus Christ,” “personal savior,” and “into my heart.” (My experience is many years openly Catholic in the Bible Belt.)
Many people have explained to me that until I do this, I can’t get saved. In other words, you can’t get saved until you perform this deed: say the prayer. This work that they tell me is required to get saved (saying the prayer) is usually followed by an explanation that “you can’t work your way to heaven,” which is what, according to most of them, Catholics believe.
After several years of Bible research, prayer, and pondering this contradiction, I finally came to the conclusion that getting saved and being saved are two different things entirely. Getting saved is the personal acceptance of the redemption of all mankind. Being saved is a process, worked out with “fear and trembling,” and “persevering to the end,” among other things. Since then, I have found out I was at least on the right track. (If I’d started reading better books sooner, I’d have known this.)
Still, I’m not convinced this prayer makes them superstitious. I’m more concerned about “once saved, always saved.”
Thanks all!The sinner’s prayer is a call on the name of Jesus and a confession of repentance (a change of mind toward God and a complete turn and abhorrence towards sin in our life). In other words, a person confesses with the mouth and believes in his heart that he is a sinner in need of a savior, Jesus is the Son of God and Jesus alone paid his/her sin debt in full with His own blood on the cross at Calvary, died, and rose again. At that point we are forgiven of ALL sin and baptized with the Holy Spirit.
Act 2:21 And it shall come to pass, [that] whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
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