Which passage?Given the context of the passage which they were commenting on, it seems pretty clear to me that this is concerning the transformation of one particular object or organism itself transforming into another. Evolution isn’t about that.
Ah yes. I agree. Mighty large stretch of the imagination to conflate that with evolution.Exodus 7:11, which is about Aaron’s staff turning into a snake by God’s power and Pharaoh’s illusionists returning the favor by way of trickery.
Accepting evolution (which any reasonable thinker must do, given the overwhelming supporting evidence) surely must destory the idea of original sin?Ah yes. I agree. Mighty large stretch of the imagination to conflate that with evolution.
In any case, the issue of whether a Catholic may accept evolution has been rather well settled by the last three Popes.
Im not sure what you mean by vetted?Why would it do either of those things? It’s not like they wouldn’t have come up in the process of evolution being vetted by the Vatican, anyway.
I don’t see how Evolution would destroy the concept of Original Sin, since it is the result of the Fall of Man, a rebellion against God.Accepting evolution (which any reasonable thinker must do, given the overwhelming supporting evidence) surely must destory the idea of original sin?
It also must call into question the idea of being made in a gods image?
Evolution = arrival to the Homo Sapien, we can either accept one mand and one women uniquely, or amongst a few Homo-Sapiens that do arise, only two were given souls, created in the likeness of God.Im not sure what you mean by vetted?
Well… evolution = no adam and eve = no fall of man = no original sin.
Also given that evolution is guided by changing environmental pressures and natural selection that pretty much gets rid of the idea we’re created in a gods image.
I’d need to see some evidence for this. Can you provide me with the research that led you to this conclusion.Evolution = arrival to the Homo Sapien, we can either accept one mand and one women uniquely, or amongst a few Homo-Sapiens that do arise, only two were given souls, created in the likeness of God.
And these two are capable of rebelling against God, which is a fall.
It’s not about a physicval image.
God Bless.
Chris.
What would it matter about what is contrary to the faith, evolution is supported by mountains of evidence, that is what matters. It has been vetted, vetted by science, by the scientific method. You do NOT vet it based on “faith”.Vetted. Approved. The Vatican has found that the theory of evolution is not contrary to the Catholic faith.
I think this document addresses some of the theological problems that you mentioned.
That’s my point, evolution suggests; that we were not “created”, and that we adapted to our environment. No more, no less, and no need for god.I don’t see how Evolution would destroy the concept of Original Sin, since it is the result of the Fall of Man, a rebellion against God.
How does it also question the idea of being made in Gods image? In theological aspects, we are created in the likeness of God, the image.
God Bless.
Chris.
You just stated that evolution is contrary to Catholic doctrine. Quit being obtuse.What would it matter about what is contrary to the faith, evolution is supported by mountains of evidence, that is what matters. It has been vetted, vetted by science, by the scientific method. You do NOT vet it based on “faith”.
Thank you. First he tells us that Evolution violates some facet of Christian theology, then you show him how the two are compatible and he essentially tells you “it doesn’t matter, it’s science no matter what the Catholic Church says”.You just stated that evolution is contrary to Catholic doctrine. Quit being obtuse.
Evolution suggests that the diversification of species happens naturally. We aren’t able to conclude anything about the origin of life itself, or anything of the cosmos, so whether we were “created” is rather irrelevant.That’s my point, evolution suggests; that we were not “created”, and that we adapted to our environment. No more, no less, and no need for god.
It contradicts the bible.You just stated that evolution is contrary to Catholic doctrine. Quit being obtuse.
Actually i would like reasonable discussion. However i tell it like i see it. If the bible says that eve was made from a mans rib, and science shows us that is incorrect i will call it as a see it and state the bible was incorrect.Thank you. First he tells us that Evolution violates some facet of Christian theology, then you show him how the two are compatible and he essentially tells you “it doesn’t matter, it’s science no matter what the Catholic Church says”.
It’s becoming more and more obvious Mr. Darwin is here to only start fights.
I agree on the first point. However we have proven life can arise naturally, but that does not mean we know how it happened on earth. As for being created, I would require the same degree of evidence in repect to a god as i do in respect to other theories. Like evolution for example.Evolution suggests that the diversification of species happens naturally. We aren’t able to conclude anything about the origin of life itself, or anything of the cosmos, so whether we were “created” is rather irrelevant.
As far as “being created in [God’s] image”, surely you don’t think Christians take that literally do you (at least us Catholics)? Doing so would beg the question, “In whose image are women created? Or is God hermaphroditic?”