Gaps in Evolution

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blortog said:
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What you call a foundation of truth I call a foundation of lies and superstition. Children not know anything when they are born are more susceptible to brainwashing, If Christianity were really true then Christians wouldn’t have to prey on the minds of young people and those who are emotionally unstable. That’s fine that it works for you, but don’t even try to claim that children who’s parents force their religion on them have a choice in the matter. Some might be lucky enough to discover Atheism but it’s obvious that the vast majority are stuck in a belief system that was forced upon them in childhood.
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This is ignorant. I can no more force my beliefs on my children as I can force them on you. Plenty of Catholic parents will attest to this.

Lucky enough to find atheism? :rotfl:
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buffalo said:
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This is ignorant. I can no more force my beliefs on my children as I can force them on you. Plenty of Catholic parents will attest to this.

Lucky enough to find atheism? :rotfl:
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Your saying then that many Catholic parents don’t make their children go to church with them? pray with them? Maybe the kids will see it for the **** that it is, but parents absolutely have major influence on their kids. By forcing them to take part in their religion they are increasing the likelihood significantly that they will abandon known truth for the supposed truth of an ancient book of fiction.
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Eleve said:
And atheists don’t socialize their children?
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No, apparently they don’t, and furthermore none of them are fundamentalists (i.e., militant in their disregard of anything theistic)? :rolleyes: It seems blortog or whatever his username is has been drinking from the well of Dawkins “God’s Delusion”. Raising your child to believe in a god is “child abuse”.
 
blortog said:
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Your saying then that many Catholic parents don’t make their children go to church with them? pray with them? Maybe the kids will see it for the **** that it is, but parents absolutely have major influence on their kids. By forcing them to take part in their religion they are increasing the likelihood significantly that they will abandon known truth for the supposed truth of an ancient book of fiction.
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No - I took my own to Mass gave them an excellent Catholic education. And yes when they turned 16 or so they resisted and I “forced” them.

As they are now young adults I no longer can force them.

As for known truth - the Catholic Church contains the “fullness of truth”. You obviously will not come out of your science box. Please - study history and philosophy. See how we come to “know” there is a God.
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josie_L said:
No, apparently they don’t, and furthermore none of them are fundamentalists (i.e., militant in their disregard of anything theistic)? :rolleyes: It seems blortog or whatever his username is has been drinking from the well of Dawkins “God’s Delusion”. Raising your child to believe in a god is “child abuse”.
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That is the new-atheist manifesto. They all pretty much read from the same “enlightened” and “bright” playbook. It is kind of funny.

Of course none of them dare to read this:

The Irrational Atheist

It totally destroys the big three atheists.
 
As for known truth - the Flying Spaghetti Monster contains the “fullness of truth”. You obviously will not come out of your Catholic box. Please - study history and philosophy. See how we come to “know” there is a Flying Spaghetti Monster.
 
blortog said:
As for known truth - the Flying Spaghetti Monster contains the “fullness of truth”. You obviously will not come out of your Catholic box. Please - study history and philosophy. See how we come to “know” there is a Flying Spaghetti Monster.
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Catholics embrace science. Modern science is here as a result of Catholics. Pagans saw the universe as chaotic and random. Catholics understood the intelligibility of the universe and its design.

We also know that faith and reason cannot be opposed for they flow from the very same God. Properly done and reasoned science does not conflict with Catholicism. Truth cannot contradict truth. The reasoning is sometimes suspect though.
 
Faith and reason cannot be apposed if you assume they flow from the same assumed god that you have to have faith in before faith and reason don’t appose each other, it all makes sense now 👍
 
blortog said:
Faith and reason cannot be apposed if you assume they flow from the same assumed god that you have to have faith in before faith and reason don’t appose each other, it all makes sense now 👍
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Yes it does (make sense), otherwise the Catholic Church could not believe in or exhort the theory of (theistic) evolution. Although this is not per se the objective of this thread I wanted to post this nevertheless:

Henri Poincaré said “Every phenomenon, however trifling it be, has a cause, and a mind infinitely powerful and infinitely well-informed concerning the laws of nature could have foreseen it from the beginning of the ages. If a being with such a mind existed, we could play no game of chance with him ; we should always lose. For him, in fact, the word chance would have no meaning, or rather there would be no such thing as chance.”
 
Charles_Darwin said:
LOL were talking about kids, they believe anything parents tell them. Like santa, the tooth fairy and god.
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Yes, kids who eventually grow up, and so decide for themselves whether or not God exists. Anyways, this argument is ridiculous as Christian parents have every right to raise their children to believe in God just as much as Atheists whose raise theirs not to.
 
josie_L said:
No, apparently they don’t, and furthermore none of them are fundamentalists (i.e., militant in their disregard of anything theistic)? :rolleyes: It seems blortog or whatever his username is has been drinking from the well of Dawkins “God’s Delusion”. Raising your child to believe in a god is “child abuse”.
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fundamentalist? :confused:
  1. (sometimes initial capital letter) a movement in American Protestantism that arose in the early part of the 20th century in reaction to modernism and that stresses the infallibility of the Bible not only in matters of faith and morals but also as a literal historical record, holding as essential to Christian faith belief in such doctrines as the creation of the world, the virgin birth, physical resurrection, atonement by the sacrificial death of Christ, and the Second Coming.
  2. the beliefs held by those in this movement.
  3. strict adherence to any set of basic ideas or principles: the fundamentalism of the extreme conservatives.
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Charles_Darwin said:
fundamentalist? :confused:
  1. (sometimes initial capital letter) a movement in American Protestantism that arose in the early part of the 20th century in reaction to modernism and that stresses the infallibility of the Bible not only in matters of faith and morals but also as a literal historical record, holding as essential to Christian faith belief in such doctrines as the creation of the world, the virgin birth, physical resurrection, atonement by the sacrificial death of Christ, and the Second Coming.
  2. the beliefs held by those in this movement.
  3. strict adherence to any set of basic ideas or principles: the fundamentalism of the extreme conservatives.
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Yes, there are militant (i.e., fundamentalist) atheists who are just as rabid in their beliefs as some theists would be.
 
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