"Gay Day" Ruined Our Day at Cedar Point

[Sailor_Kenshin]

I see that this is one of the angrier anti-gay threads at CA.

Awesome.

God forbid that a gay couple touch each other in public in front of children. It’s been ruining children for generations! I know it ruined me!

Angry? Anti-homosexual?

To the contrary. We love them so much we do not wish to see them in Hell, nor lead others there.

 

[ac_claire]

That’d be cool. But what about heteros who live together before marriage? Can we say they can’t go too? Or how about women who have had abortions? Let’s exclude them. And maybe we can keep out those who take the Lord’s name…that’s one of my most detested sins as it shows such blatent disrespect for our God. But then, if we kept out those who sin publicly, who would we let in?

The difference is those sins aren’t always publically visible. If they are (such as, known adulterers engaging in PDAs or something, or pro-abortion demonstrators, etc.) then yeah, same thing. I wouldn’t want them in my family-friend theme park or around my kids either.

 

[Sailor_Kenshin]

The way you characterize the behavior “sticking facial parts down each others throats” reveals such a level of hatred and vitriol that simply takes my breath away. What have these poor people ever done to evoke such hatred from you? They are God’s children just as much as you and I are.

While not my preference, just like every other form of public behavior that one would prefer not to see its part and parcel of the world we live in and like everything else, constitutes a “teachable moment”.

Or perhaps it’s hatred and vitriol on the part of those women.

 

[Julianna]

Reminds me of what Mad Maxx said on the John Boy and Billy Show when asked how mad he was…

Mad Maxx replied

“I’m madder than a Southern Baptist in the middle of Gay-Days at Disney World!”



muchado over nothing…

 

[Sailor_Kenshin]

I agree with you 100%. I try to discourage my nephew from asking me questions. The world would be better off if we just kept to our own kind, that way no one, especially kids, would get all confused.

When I have kids, they’ll only be allowed around brown people, Catholics, cause if they’re around white people, they’ll ask me all sorts of questions that I don’t have the answer to.

I’m not sure why you think I’m being sarcastic, I think you’ve got lots of great ideas.

Please explain how you think you are being helpful.

Let us never forget that parading and glorifying mortally sinful behavior is, at the very least, displeasing to God.

 

[JadeStarr]

I’m sorry your day was ruined but Gay people have, or should have, equal rights to
all the things that you have a right to.

And I don’t believe that anyone has a right to admonish a person for being the way that God made them.

I understand that you may be disgusted at PDAs, so am I, but I dislike seeing anyone
make love in public, not just the Gays. For example I wouldn’t want you to be holding hands and kissing on your spouse in front of me, I consider that hostile action to the captive audience, so on that point, we agree.

 

[NoAvailableName]

And I don’t believe that anyone has a right to admonish a person for being the way that God made them.

God did not make any of us perfect, and neither does he owe us such perfection. Your implication that whatever an individual is inclined to do must be good because God made that person is worship of the flesh rather than God.

What credit is it to someone to not sin if their flesh desires nothing that is sinful in the first place? We all have sinful desires, and it is up to us to decide whether or not to make our own desires our God.

Good is not defined by what your body wants, but what God wants.

 

[pnewton]

And I don’t believe that anyone has a right to admonish a person for being the way that God made them. .

Do you feel the same way about pedophiles, rapists, sociopaths, etc.? We should just tolerate their diverse nature?

 

[JimG]

Do you feel the same way about pedophiles, rapists, sociopaths, etc.? We should just tolerate their diverse nature?

They should all gather for recreation and celebration on their own special days at the park. But you forgot adulterers day, free fornication day, and the BDSM bash, among others.

 

[JadeStarr]

PNewton, are you saying that the pedophiles and rapists are on equal footing in your
opinion with homosexuals? If so, why?

 

[JadeStarr]

NoAvailableName, you are correct that you are not perfect and neither am I.

 

[Sailor_Kenshin]

Is it increased compassion not to speak out on wrong doing as a Catholic?

Evidently.

One day,such ‘compassion’ will overflow and we will be expected to expose our children to snuff films.

 

[JadeStarr]

I think that folks are drifting away here, the original poster had a complaint that is being ignored. She believes that her day was ruined because some other people were also at Cedar Point. My belief is that the Gays had as much of right to be there as she did BUT that she should not be subjected to PDAs of any kind.

As far as children being around Gays, that would all depend on the Gay person.
Just as I would be cautious about a child being around a divorced person, divorced people
might give a child the message that their actions are acceptable and routine, and I believe that the family unit is very precious and that divorce is entirely too easy to obtain.

 

[ContegoFides]

PNewton, are you saying that the pedophiles and rapists are on equal footing in your
opinion with homosexuals? If so, why?

You are twisting the argument. The argument is not that people with same sex attraction commit acts as gravely disordered as pedophiles and rapists. Casting the issue that way is unjust because it does not address the underlying issue, but rather attempts to misdirect it.

Instead, the argument goes to clearly refuting the assertion that “because God made me this way” that the person should be accepted solely on that basis. Simply because a person has a deep seated attraction to something does not mean that the acts that flow from that attraction should be considered good. Instead, you must look to the acts themselves to determine whether or not they are gravely disordered.

Sexual activity between members of the same sex is gravely disordered because it breaks both of the obvious purposes of sex: reproduction and union between spouses (no, people of the same sex cannot marry each other in God’s eyes, no matter what the State says - scripture and Tradition both are plain that homosexual actions are a cause for spiritual death, so people of the same sex cannot possibly be married).

Thus, even if God gave a cross to someone in the form of same sex attraction, acting out on those impulses is still gravely disordered - objectively speaking. Just as if God gave a cross to someone in the form of compulsive stealing, acting out on that impulse is still gravely disordered. The assertion is not that stealing and homosexual acts are morally equivalent, but rather that it is the actions that are judged on the objective level, not whether God made a person a particular way (or, rather, allowed a concupiscence towards a particular sin to develop in a person).

 

[ContegoFides]

I think that folks are drifting away here, the original poster had a complaint that is being ignored. She believes that her day was ruined because some other people were also at Cedar Point. My belief is that the Gays had as much of right to be there as she did BUT that she should not be subjected to PDAs of any kind.

As far as children being around Gays, that would all depend on the Gay person.
Just as I would be cautious about a child being around a divorced person, divorced people
might give a child the message that their actions are acceptable and routine, and I believe that the family unit is very precious and that divorce is entirely too easy to obtain.

Certainly, generally speaking anyway, people have a right to go to a public place.

The problem here is the underlying assumption that disagreement about homosexual acts is somehow political in nature, and therefore to be tolerated as a rational and legitimate disagreement (like Republicans and Democrats contest with each other but tolerate each other). However, homosexual actions are gravely disordered objectively speaking, and scripture and Tradition both hold that these acts can (not necessarily will) lead a person down a road which leads to spiritual death. When people with same sex attraction openly flaunt their strong confirmation in this sin before children, the children (even adults) may develop the attitude that because people who live in this sin are to be accepted as not doing anything wrong, they may also be confirmed in this sin or a similar sin. Children are especially vulnerable to being swayed. That is the fundamental problem here.

The issue is not one of unjust discrimination against people struggling with an objectively disordered desire, something that should not be tolerated, but rather supporting and confirming actions which are objectively evil in front of children.

 

[Loboto-Me]

They should all gather for recreation and celebration on their own special days at the park. But you forgot adulterers day, free fornication day, and the BDSM bash, among others.

LOL! I think Dr.Hook sang about that special day “Freaker’s Ball” I won’t put the lyrics in this post, but it’s easy enough to find online.

 

[former_Catholic]

There were swarms and swarms of groups: men dressed, acting like women, holding hands, public displays of affection etc, etc. Every. where. we. went. in the park we were confronted with their agenda. There was no escaping it and there was no ignoring it. It was right in our faces.
We ended up leaving by noon we were just so disgusted. And THANKFUL that we didn’t just spend a full days admission ($45) to get our entire family in that park and have to answer questions as to why grown men are holding hands and kissing.

Tell your children the truth, for God’s sake, tell your children the truth.

The truth is that after WWII doctors were giving drugs to pregnant women that they thought would help them, and those drugs caused horrendous damage to their unborn babies.
Thallidomide caused children to be born with missing and deformed limbs. It was so shocking and so obvious that babies born to pregnant women given thallidomide were so horrendously and permanently deformed, that thallidomide was made illegal fairly quickly.

But the effects of diethylstilbestrol (DES) were not quite as obvious to people on the street as the effects of thallidomide, and so diethylstilbestrol was given to pregnant women from 1947 to 1975. Its effects were not so immediate and not so obvious, except in the worst cases… and those worst cases were hidden and hushed up but fast… because they were so embarrassing.
In the worst cases…babies were being born and doctors could not tell at birth if they were boys or girls because they had physical parts of both boys and girls and chromosomes of both.

Doctors went guessing…
and surgically lopping off and stitching up bodies…
and deciding “this one should be declared and made a boy” and “this one should be declared and made a girl”…
and they made the best guesses they could and did the best that they could do, because there was nothing else they could think of to do for them.

These kids were raised as either boys or girls, but when they started growing up, their bodies started producing grown-up hormones, adding fuel to the fire. Their bodies started changing and they ended up with major problems. It’s pretty strange to be a boy… growing breasts…
It’s pretty strange to be a girl… growing manly body parts and facial hair…
And nobody wanted them around at all because they were so embarrassingly different.
And people killed them because they were so embarrassingly different.
But at this point, after 30 years there are so many of them that they have their own community and they get together as a big group and support one another…
so that they can walk out in the sunshine and hold hands and kiss like anybody else.

I think it is a sorry world in which people’s days are ruined by genuine heartfelt “public displays of affection” between human beings. I myself am grateful to God for displays of affection between human beings on this earth.

I used to live in a neighborhood where public displays of affection between human beings were rare, and one bright sunny morning 6 dead bodies were found shot and lying face down in pools of their own blood in the street, all within a half mile from my apartment.

 

[Sailor_Kenshin]

I used to live in a neighborhood where public displays of affection between human beings were rare, and one bright sunny morning 6 dead bodies were found shot and lying face down in pools of their own blood in the street, all within a half mile from my apartment.

Can you prove a correlation?

 

[Miserys_Fence]

I too appreciate the heads up and will watch these sort of places. I know we can’t always stop everything, but I do try to protect my children from perverts and child molestors to the greatest extent possible.

How incredibly ignorant to assume that gays are child molesters. Straight men are the majority of molesters. Maybe we should lock them all up in the dungeon?

Miz

 

[kenofken]

I would submit that 15 centuries or so of privilege and deference (which lasted until quite recently), has made Catholics a soft lot. Your whole day is ruined because you had to suffer the existence of other people who have as much legal standing as you. Really? You guys wouldn’t have lasted 5 minutes in Nero’s Rome. You’d have swooned like Southern Belles before the authorities even figured out you were Christian…