Gay Marriage (A Different Perspective)

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i agree with you completely. calling something for what it is, its looked at as hate!

i think what ticked-off some of the poster here is the title of my website “gaysaresick” let me take this opportunity to interpret what that means. gays are sick mentally, psychologically, spiritually and for their sexual behavior. nothing is hateful about that.
From gaysaresick.com/

*March 17, 2009, 11:21 am *
1. Do you think God is pleased to see two men or two women having asexual Relations?
Asexual means lacking sex. Men cannot have relationships with each other that do not involve sex? Women either? Huh? I think he is misusing the word here, but I am only going by what he typed. He does have multiple spelling and grammatical errors throughout the site. He does not communicate very well in writing.
2. Do you think anything good comes out of a gay life style? Anything? Ever? Think about it!
3. Is homosexual environment healthy for society?
4. Is it healthy for normal children to be taught about homosexuality in schools? What is “normal”? By whose definition? Yours? Mine? Joe Smith’s? Mary Lucas?
5. Is it healthy for normal children to have gay friends? again with the “normal”. How do you KNOW some of your children’s friends AREN’T gay? It’s not like all gay people walk around with the word " I am gay" tatooed on their foreheads! They don’t all act a certain way either!!
6. Is it healthy for your children to see you with gay friends? How do they KNOW they are gay or not? Do you make it a common practice to discuss your friend’s private lives with your children?
7. Is it healthy for normal children to see adults watching pro gay shows on TV? What is “pro gay” show?
8. Is it healthy to teach normal children to accept and respect homosexuals? It IS healthy to teach children (“normal” or not) to show kindness, love, and respect to EVERYONE.
9. Would you send your normal child to a gay home to play with other children? Maybe. Better that than a bigotted home. Would depend on many factors, not just if it was a “gay” home.
10. Are you intimidated by homosexuals? Nope. But YOU seem to be!
If you answered Yes to any of the above questions then you need to re-examine your moral compass.

My parents didn’t teach me whole lot but they did their best, even though without too much details they have managed to guide me in wisdom to differentiate right from wrong. 1000’s of questions came to mind and some of them are very painful to even think about. My wife and I have done allot more for our children than our parents did for us in terms of education and communication, and we thought how can we go wrong by doing so much more for our kids, to clearly see and understand Truth,. So we gave them not only knowledge, time, love and sacrifice, but also freedom to be independent thinkers. But if they don’t think independently just like you, you will “tough love” them out of it…Thank God I only know one distant relative who is gay, Oh, you probably know more gay people than you think!! You just don’t know they are are gay!! but I am worried about my kids, at least one of them feels sorry for the gay community and votes in their favor. He is being an independant thinker and sees they deserve respect. Looks like you have at least one compassionate child in your family!! at this point I am not worried that any of my kids will become gay, but this is how it all starts. Uh, no. That, sir, is where YOU need more education.
 
From gaysaresick.com/

*March 17, 2009, 11:21 am *
1. Do you think God is pleased to see two men or two women having asexual Relations?
Asexual means lacking sex. Men cannot have relationships with each other that do not involve sex? Women either? Huh? I think he is misusing the word here, but I am only going by what he typed. He does have multiple spelling and grammatical errors throughout the site. He does not communicate very well in writing.
2. Do you think anything good comes out of a gay life style? Anything? Ever? Think about it!
3. Is homosexual environment healthy for society?
4. Is it healthy for normal children to be taught about homosexuality in schools? What is “normal”? By whose definition? Yours? Mine? Joe Smith’s? Mary Lucas?
5. Is it healthy for normal children to have gay friends? again with the “normal”. How do you KNOW some of your children’s friends AREN’T gay? It’s not like all gay people walk around with the word " I am gay" tatooed on their foreheads! They don’t all act a certain way either!!
6. Is it healthy for your children to see you with gay friends? How do they KNOW they are gay or not? Do you make it a common practice to discuss your friend’s private lives with your children?
7. Is it healthy for normal children to see adults watching pro gay shows on TV? What is “pro gay” show?
8. Is it healthy to teach normal children to accept and respect homosexuals? It IS healthy to teach children (“normal” or not) to show kindness, love, and respect to EVERYONE.
9. Would you send your normal child to a gay home to play with other children? Maybe. Better that than a bigotted home. Would depend on many factors, not just if it was a “gay” home.
10. Are you intimidated by homosexuals? Nope. But YOU seem to be!
If you answered Yes to any of the above questions then you need to re-examine your moral compass.


*My parents didn’t teach me whole lot but they did their best, even though without too much details they have managed to guide me in wisdom to differentiate right from wrong. 1000’s of questions came to mind and some of them are very painful to even think about. My wife and I have done allot more for our children than our parents did for us in terms of education and communication, and we thought how can we go wrong by doing so much more for our kids, to clearly see and understand Truth,. So we gave them not only knowledge, time, love and sacrifice, but also freedom to be independent thinkers. But if they don’t think independently just like you, you will “tough love” them out of it…*Thank God I only know one distant relative who is gay, Oh, you probably know more gay people than you think!! You just don’t know they are are gay!! but I am worried about my kids, at least one of them feels sorry for the gay community and votes in their favor. He is being an independant thinker and sees they deserve respect. Looks like you have at least one compassionate child in your family!! at this point I am not worried that any of my kids will become gay, but this is how it all starts. Uh, no. That, sir, is where YOU need more education.
Is this the best you can do? make fun of my spelling and grammar! so that makes me uneducated! even with you trying to use my writings against me you contradicted yourself, on one hand you call me controlling and close minded but on the other hand you admit that one of my children is independent thinker…this is the kind of tactics you and your kind use to demonize people who disagree with you, you find ways to discredit me by making fun of my spelling and grammar. I may not be good in English because I am an immigrant, but reading your comments tells me that you got the point. BTW, my doughier (not my son) who sympathizes with you can put you to shame. she is far more intelligent that you think. she doesn’t understand something now, but when she does, she will be you biggest nightmare.
 
I dont think it good to look at others posters opions in the light of their ability to speeelll of us good gramma.
The point of forums is about the content of the communication again i offer.

We really need to love each other without compromise of the law.

It is a challenge when we see some one full of hate to love them more than they hate.

But for God all things are possible so for those who submit to Him all good things are possible.
 
Same sex attraction is a psychological problem and such a marriage would be damaging to the individuals in them.

They should remain friends, not lovers.
Same sex attraction is not a pschological problem. I still won’t call it a marriage but I live with same sex attraction and don’t see any pschologist for the condition. I’m not sick.
 
Is this the best you can do? make fun of my spelling and grammar! so that makes me uneducated! even with you trying to use my writings against me you contradicted yourself, on one hand you call me controlling and close minded but on the other hand you admit that one of my children is independent thinker…this is the kind of tactics you and your kind use to demonize people who disagree with you, you find ways to discredit me by making fun of my spelling and grammar. I may not be good in English because I am an immigrant, but reading your comments tells me that you got the point. BTW, my doughier (not my son) who sympathizes with you can put you to shame. she is far more intelligent that you think. she doesn’t understand something now, but when she does, she will be you biggest nightmare.
I noticed you never addressed the points…😃

You ARE controlling…and yet your “doughier” (daughter) has managed to squeeze out from under your thumb.👍
How will your daughter me MY nightmare?:rolleyes: You are trying to “tough love” her back to your bigotted view, I assume. How old is she?:rolleyes:
 
Challenging thread

He who lives buy the sword dies by the sword.

He who promotes hate becomes hated.

We really need to love each other without compromise of the law.

It is a challenge when we see some one full of hate to love them more than they hate.

But for God all things are possible so for those who submit to Him all good things are possible.
It seems that at this moment in time we are exactly where we are in our evolution in understanding God’s Love.
Is God limited to whom He shares His Love with?
The natural consequences will exhibit whether or not we are in union with God’s Love.
Thanks for the post.
 
It seems that at this moment in time we are exactly where we are in our evolution in understanding God’s Love.
Is God limited to whom He shares His Love with?
The natural consequences will exhibit whether or not we are in union with God’s Love.
Thanks for the post.
loving God means doing his will, to be perfect like Him. i know no one can be perfect, but it is possible other wise He wouldn’t have said it.
 
I noticed you never addressed the points…😃

You ARE controlling…and yet your “doughier” (daughter) has managed to squeeze out from under your thumb.👍
How will your daughter me MY nightmare?:rolleyes: You are trying to “tough love” her back to your bigotted view, I assume. How old is she?:rolleyes:
here we go again, i feel sorry for you. BTW let me correct your typos “its daughter be MY nightmare” not “daughter me MY nightmare” 😛
 
here we go again, i feel sorry for you. BTW let me correct your typos “its daughter be MY nightmare” not “daughter me MY nightmare” 😛
See, NONE of us are perfect!!😉

Still have not addressed my points, BTW.🙂

Why do you feel sorry for me? Cuz I don’t bow down under your thumb? 😃
 
It seems that at this moment in time we are exactly where we are in our evolution in understanding God’s Love.
Is God limited to whom He shares His Love with?
The natural consequences will exhibit whether or not we are in union with God’s Love.
Thanks for the post.
Not at all my first post in this thread was intended to explain this. i think post #7

We know from the NT God still loves us even when we are sinners he wants us to repent and believe the good news.
 
Which is it? 😛

We are to try to be perfect, but we will fail, because we are human beings, not God.
With respect it is not because we are human we fail,
some of Pauls wittings are little out there for me or i dont fully understand the people he addressed them to.

The human condition does not stop us from being perfect, satan does or more so us allowing him to do so is the root of imperfection. The same free will that if exercised in the law would have be as He intended. That is we would purely love Him as He does us.

We were created as like them, that is as the gods and we are destined to return, all it takes is willing obedience.

I lied to my kids when i said to them “well you are only human” i should have agreed with their disappointment at breaking the law and offered the message of Jesus (pbwh) then offered to pray with them.

See my words conditioned them to stay away from God and accept that is natural when it is unnatural.
May God have mercy on me for this terrible sin.
 
Not at all my first post in this thread was intended to explain this. i think post #7

We know from the NT God still loves us even when we are sinners he wants us to repent and believe the good news.
Does God love us even if we do not know the good news?
 
Does God love us even if we do not know the good news?
God is Love. That is His primary nature and defining characteristic, as said in the NT. Therefore, yes, He does love us even if we do not know the good news. Every human being encounters love during their lifetime, and therefore every human being knows love. Furthermore, God has written the laws of love on their heart.

What is Love? It is actively seeking the HIGHEST good of another. If you truly love someone you want the very best thing for them. Heaven is that highest good because Heaven is a place where Love is perfect, sorrows no longer exist, and there is no loss and no grief. Therefore, if you truly love someone you would not put their soul in jeopardy of losing Heaven simply to satisfy your own desires. You would love them enough to make the sacrifice of your own desires so that you might not be a stumbling block to them.

It is not a loving action to pursue homosexual relations with someone else when God has clearly stated that this does not please Him. Homosexual relations are every bit as wrong as adultery and divorce. You may rationalize all that you like the behavior you are doing, you may tell yourself as often as you like that what you do doesn’t hurt the other person because they want it but that isn’t the guide rule for whether or not what you do hurts another. Anytime you come between someone and God, you are hurting them. Anytime you insist on your pleasure before God’s desires you are making yourself a God and this is a sin.

If you carry same-sex attraction, pray to God that no one else may be pricked by the crown of thorns that you have been given. If you truly love your partner, stop having relations with them and do not put yourself in any situation where it might tempt either of you to sin against God. I would give the same advice to someone who is tempted to commit adultery, or who has committed adultery. I would give the same advice to fornicators, and to any one else who has been tempted to give in to sexual sin. I give it, because I know that it works.
 
If you carry same-sex attraction, pray to God that no one else may be pricked by the crown of thorns that you have been given. If you truly love your partner, stop having relations with them and do not put yourself in any situation where it might tempt either of you to sin against God
Amen, praise be to God for this loving attitude.
 
God is Love. That is His primary nature and defining characteristic, as said in the NT. Therefore, yes, He does love us even if we do not know the good news. Every human being encounters love during their lifetime, and therefore every human being knows love. Furthermore, God has written the laws of love on their heart.

What is Love? It is actively seeking the HIGHEST good of another. If you truly love someone you want the very best thing for them. Heaven is that highest good because Heaven is a place where Love is perfect, sorrows no longer exist, and there is no loss and no grief. Therefore, if you truly love someone you would not put their soul in jeopardy of losing Heaven simply to satisfy your own desires. You would love them enough to make the sacrifice of your own desires so that you might not be a stumbling block to them.

It is not a loving action to pursue homosexual relations with someone else when God has clearly stated that this does not please Him. Homosexual relations are every bit as wrong as adultery and divorce. You may rationalize all that you like the behavior you are doing, you may tell yourself as often as you like that what you do doesn’t hurt the other person because they want it but that isn’t the guide rule for whether or not what you do hurts another. Anytime you come between someone and God, you are hurting them. Anytime you insist on your pleasure before God’s desires you are making yourself a God and this is a sin.

If you carry same-sex attraction, pray to God that no one else may be pricked by the crown of thorns that you have been given. If you truly love your partner, stop having relations with them and do not put yourself in any situation where it might tempt either of you to sin against God. I would give the same advice to someone who is tempted to commit adultery, or who has committed adultery. I would give the same advice to fornicators, and to any one else who has been tempted to give in to sexual sin. I give it, because I know that it works.
very good…
 
:Just answering the original post:

I agree that their is a difference between a Sacremental Catholic marriage and a State ‘marriage’. Nothing in the Constitution would allow the United States goverment to force Catholic Churches to validate these State ‘marriages’ Sacrementally. No matter how many times it is said the government is not a Christian nation, it was one made by Deist who probably had little consideration for respect to God.

Anyways as for those who say it will degrade society to nothing I find it hard to take this overreacting seriously. For those who don’t want that influence on future generations, I say teach your children well enough so that they know that it is not natural no matter what the Liberals hero of the day says! If you learn a primary school is forcing books or assemblies on homosexuality then take it up individually but don’t just assume that in the future schools and other goverment institutions will take it on themselves to spoon feed claims on equality, again if they do deal with it when it occurs not when it is just an assumption.

The only future example of forcing minority rights I can agree could occur is Incest if somehow in the decaying future they recieve a strong support like the gay ‘marriage’ supporters do now. After all if it is two consenting adults who understand (or don’t even) the risks of having children then what is stopping them? However I am really tired of seeing Catholics use the worn out Pedophiles, and beastialists(?) arguement because a child or animal cannot consent to it.

In the end I can never be one hundred percent certain in my choice but I’d probably just let Homosexuals recieve the rights that a Heterosexual couple have in Secular marriage; just so long as I don’t begin seeing Religious rights being thrown away. (Such as being allowed not to let Homosexual couples adopt children from Catholic agencies.)
 
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