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Rocks_91
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If that’s the case, then I’m physically attracted to cats and dogs.
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DiZent
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Thank you for the links. I also struggle with how to respond. MD was one of those states that legalized so-called “gay marriage” last fall. After the election, those of us who were against are rightly concerned about speaking out, especially in the workplace. As for my nieces who post publicly on Facebook, I can ignore their posts, (though we did have a discussion group about Question 6 & I did state my objection - one of the nieces “un-friended” me)
I have to agree with Dr. Lively on all points. I think I fell into the “sexual orientation” ruse - not defining it as behavior.
I have to agree with Dr. Lively on all points. I think I fell into the “sexual orientation” ruse - not defining it as behavior.
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JLCecilia
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My apologies Rocks_91, I misread your prev. post. I have to disagree that there is no such thing as non-sinful attraction prior to marriage. Obviously there are all kinds of physical attraction and not all physical attraction is bad. I think there’s just an automatic assumption that when one speaks of ‘physical attraction’ it’s synonomous (SP?) with ‘sexual.’ The term ‘physical attraction’ has gotten a negative, raunchy connotation attached to it.
Perhaps what I’m really referring to here is physiological attraction. I’m thinking of my physical attraction to my children or an infant to his mother. I’m naturally attracted to my girlfriends b/c they are beautiful people (and yes, I think they’re pretty too). But that doesn’t mean that I’m sexually attracted to them. You can have an ‘attractive’ personality. People are drawn to you b/c of how you make them feel: comforted, trustworthy, esteemed.
You can find someone physically attractive (other than your spouse, dare I say it), but it doesn’t have to be negative. You just tell God ‘thank you for making such a beautiful person’ and leave it at that. As long as you don’t allow yourself to dwell on it and take your thoughts places they shouldn’t go (he who commits adultery ‘in his heart’ or with his eyes).
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mackbrislawn
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It’s funny, I thought it was decided by the left in the '60s and '70s that marriage itself was old fashioned and out of date. Just live together. As the song went, “Why be bound by inkstains that have dried upon some line…?” Marriage was considered to be outmoded and unnecessary. But now the left wants to revive marriage! How hypocritical. The whole issue is really not about marriage nor about rights, but about getting sanction for the gay lifestyle through government, because simply getting laws repealed against sodomy is not enough for them.
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AloysiusBologna
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Why say Gay Marriage? I have long held the thought that the biggest mistake in seeking to show what a Christian Marriage should be is in referencing the homosexuals desires as a marriage. I am still trying to overcome the loss of the use of the word “gay” in it’s more historic meanings. Why not use another, more derogative term for what some are erroneusly seeking? Marriage must be what it should be.
Please help. Change the perspective.
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Please help. Change the perspective.
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JLCecilia
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AMEN!Why say Gay Marriage? I have long held the thought that the biggest mistake in seeking to show what a Christian Marriage should be is in referencing the homosexuals desires as a marriage. I am still trying to overcome the loss of the use of the word “gay” in it’s more historic meanings. Why not use another, more derogative term for what some are erroneusly seeking? Marriage must be what it should be.
Please help. Change the perspective.
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NeedImprovement
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It doesn’t even need to be derogatory (although the militants will probably try to label it thus no matter how , um, “kindly” 
it’s worded). Striving for accuracy renders almost the same results. Unless I’m really stuck,here are some of the ones I try to use use . They take a little longer to write, but I think they are a much better reflection of the truth:
it’s worded). Striving for accuracy renders almost the same results. Unless I’m really stuck,here are some of the ones I try to use use . They take a little longer to write, but I think they are a much better reflection of the truth:- legalization of same-sex unions
- equating same-sex unions with marriage
- equating homosexual unions with marriage
- gay marriage (it will never be marriage)
- same sex -]marriage/-]
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AloysiusBologna
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Are we required to rebuke the sinner?
Are we required to follow God’s Law or some less than civil law?
Why must I recognize what I know to be bad as being good? Can I?
All that is neded for evil to prevail is …?
Are Drug Addicts or Kleptomaniacs or Pedophiliacs different than Homosexuals? Should Leviticus 20:16 be corrected like Huckleberry Finn so as not to offend anyone?
Should we not imitate Good and Upright Ways?
If we are compelled to not stand idly by while human life is in danger, what should we do when a human soul is in danger?
Is our government to be of the People or of the Outcast?
Should Chametz be burned?..Do we allow weeds to grow with the wheat? …
Does the type of collar affect the heat? Is the collar fully attached? What colour is it?
Are we required to follow God’s Law or some less than civil law?
Why must I recognize what I know to be bad as being good? Can I?
All that is neded for evil to prevail is …?
Are Drug Addicts or Kleptomaniacs or Pedophiliacs different than Homosexuals? Should Leviticus 20:16 be corrected like Huckleberry Finn so as not to offend anyone?
Should we not imitate Good and Upright Ways?
If we are compelled to not stand idly by while human life is in danger, what should we do when a human soul is in danger?
Is our government to be of the People or of the Outcast?
Should Chametz be burned?..Do we allow weeds to grow with the wheat? …
Does the type of collar affect the heat? Is the collar fully attached? What colour is it?
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AloysiusBologna
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**The Unanimous Declaration **
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
The folowing copied from en.wikipedia.org/sodomy
“Prior to 1962, sodomy was a felony in every state, punished by a lengthy term of imprisonment and/or hard labor.”
“In 1778, Thomas Jefferson wrote a law in Virginia which contained a punishment of castration for men who engage in sodomy, however, what was intended by Jefferson as a liberalization of the sodomy laws in Virginia at that time was rejected by the Virginia Legislature, which continued to prescribe death as the maximum penalty for the crime of sodomy in that state.”
**Fortnight for Freedom Closing Mass Remarks
“I beg you not to be silenced or unfairly shamed into remaining silent when it comes to supporting marriage. We know the truth about marriage. We know that marriage is unique for a reason. We know what civilized societies have recognized for century upon century: that marriage as the union of one man and one woman is a benefit to children and to society, is foundational to the common good, and as such is worthy of special protection and privileges.”**
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
The folowing copied from en.wikipedia.org/sodomy
“Prior to 1962, sodomy was a felony in every state, punished by a lengthy term of imprisonment and/or hard labor.”
“In 1778, Thomas Jefferson wrote a law in Virginia which contained a punishment of castration for men who engage in sodomy, however, what was intended by Jefferson as a liberalization of the sodomy laws in Virginia at that time was rejected by the Virginia Legislature, which continued to prescribe death as the maximum penalty for the crime of sodomy in that state.”
**Fortnight for Freedom Closing Mass Remarks
“I beg you not to be silenced or unfairly shamed into remaining silent when it comes to supporting marriage. We know the truth about marriage. We know that marriage is unique for a reason. We know what civilized societies have recognized for century upon century: that marriage as the union of one man and one woman is a benefit to children and to society, is foundational to the common good, and as such is worthy of special protection and privileges.”**
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CarolNoel
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I get a bit warm there myself.
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bcuster
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This is a hot button issue for me as well. When I speak my mind about marriage being between a man and woman, I get lots of negative responses. I have decided that FB is not the place. Face to face, I will speak about the natural law arguments. From now on I am going to try to ask questions of others to get them to explain to me their irrational beliefs. Sort of turn the tables. I don’t know if it will achieve anything, but maybe get others to think things through.
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3DOCTORS
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Yes, that’s an excellent approach. I’ve found it defuses at least some of the tensions, provides opening points for dialogue, and other benefits. This CAF Blog thread has some good reading on the subject:
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=805961
My Facebook page has become so deserted (by me) that I’m thinking of posting a photo of a ghost town for my backdrop or whatever it’s called, LOL.
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