Gay Marriage in America

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StAnastasia said:
“Sonoma County has long been the place where people “get it.” We don’t tolerate fag-haters or bigots here. Yet, our newspaper, The Press Democrat, has turned a blind eye to the story.”

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Not to get off topic, but this story was not recorded in the local newspaper (per the link). Your link was to a social network. How do you know this story is true. Did you find out about it because your dad lives in Sonoma County?
 
StAnastasia said:
I think your judgmentalism is one of the reasons we have such a high attrition orate among young people. Who with any experience outside their little community would want to belong to a church “outside which we believe that no one is saved”?
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I didn’t write it. The Church wrote it. So the judgmentalism you are questioning is the infallible teaching of the Magisterium.

But to answer your question, I think that “anyone who would want be saved” would want to belong to a Church outside of which there is no salvation. Just my opinion. Most people, however, don’t want to be saved. They want to feel good about themselves and avoid the pain of facing their sins and culpability thereof. So they say, “screw the church”.

Problem is, with the scourge of moral relativism and indifferentism and “haveityourwayism”, the infallible teachings of the Church are paraded as “superstition” by those who think they’re above the Magisterium by virtue of their college degree.

Can a person who is outside of the Church through no fault of their own be saved? ABSOLUTELY it’s possible. But that salvation can ONLY come through extraordinary grace which is available through the merits of Christ’s crucifixion and the Holy Sacrifice of the Roman Catholic Mass and all Eastern rites in union with Her, along with the holy lives of the saints which add to the treasury of grace. Those who are availed of the Truth, and yet reject the Truth, however, will likely not be amenable to this grace even if it is offered to them in their dying moments. Some seed fell… and the birds came and ate it…
 
StAnastasia said:
That could be so, but the attrition among kids does concern me greatly. My sons are so far not that way, but there are precious few of their classmates who continue on with weekly Mass attendance after they graduate from the parish school. I hope this won’t be a battle for us in coming years, but you can’t always tell. So far my brilliant sophomore still comes to church with us, and has even joined on with the confirmation class for next spring!
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It concerns me, too, especially when I consider the fact that my first step back into the Tiber was done at the request of my sister, as a birthday present from me to her. I wonder if I would have come back completely on my own. I hope so but I do worry about those who have left and have not returned. But like you, I have seen some bright spots. My two nieces are both in college, both brilliant in academics, and both are Catholics, strong in their faith. One teaches CCD classes, one has been an altar server for many years. I’m very proud of both of them.
 
LittleSoldier said:
It concerns me, too, especially when I consider the fact that my first step back into the Tiber was done at the request of my sister, as a birthday present from me to her. I wonder if I would have come back completely on my own. I hope so but I do worry about those who have left and have not returned. But like you, I have seen some bright spots. My two nieces are both in college, both brilliant in academics, and both are Catholics, strong in their faith. One teaches CCD classes, one has been an altar server for many years. I’m very proud of both of them.
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Good for your nieces. I hope my sons persevere. They had ten years of Catholic education and one is now in a public high school.
 
Nate13 said:
That statement says a lot about nothing. Who doesn’t “try their best to live their own life”? There is nobody who doesn’t do this, …
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I don’t know about this. There are people who look upon others only as an opportunity to do evil.
 
Nate13 said:
…we should require more of someone who is going to adopt other than they wish to be alive.
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Yes. Adoption is an unfortunate necessity in some cases, but it is child-centered. Its purpose is to give children the parents they need; it does not exist to give people the children they say they want.
 
StAnastasia said:
… This happened in my father’s town in 2010. The man’s name was not on his partner’s deed. …
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What has this to do with visiting hospitals? Nothing, that’s what.

In the case you cited, maybe the deceased didn’t want his “partner” to get his house or any of his stuff. Who are you to say? Are we to overturn all of society just because some fail to execute a will?
 
StAnastasia said:
I had to laugh when I received news last January about my first formal heresy denunciation! {snip} formally denounced as a heretic to the Bishop of the Diocese of Yakima, Washington.

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:eek:

What did the bishop do about it?
 
qui_est_ce said:
:eek:What did the bishop do about it?
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The bishop disarmed the matter with kindness and pastoral grace. I had been invited to deliver a series of lectures on the relationship between science and religion. Some people did not like the idea that Catholics are allowed to entertain an evolutionary scientific perspective on the universe, and last January they reported both me and the pastor of the parish to the bishop as heretics. The bishop replied firmly but pastorally to these people, and I did not find out about my heresy denunciation until a couple of months later.
 
StAnastasia said:
The bishop disarmed the matter with kindness and pastoral grace. I had been invited to deliver a series of lectures on the relationship between science and religion. Some people did not like the idea that Catholics are allowed to entertain an evolutionary scientific perspective on the universe, and last January they reported both me and the pastor of the parish to the bishop as heretics. The bishop replied firmly but pastorally to these people, and I did not find out about my heresy denunciation until a couple of months later.
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Don’t put too much stock in what people like that say. People get accused of that all the time, from both sides of the fence.

Glad to see the good bishop acted pastorally.
 
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