Gay teens will die, but who is to blame?

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I said you sound like the Westboro church because you call people enablers, which is the same word they use. And you are not much better than they are. At least they’re honest about their hatred toward homosexuality.
 
I said you sound like the Westboro church because you call people enablers, which is the same word they use. And you are not much better than they are. At least they’re honest about their hatred toward homosexuality.
Your reasoning at this point is very weak.
So anyone who uses the word “enabler” is from the WBC? There are others (like myself) who use that word and yet reject the WBC.

Hatred? You want to know what is hatred? It’s not caring for where their souls ultimately end up in! That is something that homosexualists and their enabler allies tend to do!
 
Do you celebrate at our service men and womens
military funerals? Do you blame there
sacrifices and deaths on the gay community?

Again I don’t advocate the life style, but I don’t
hate them . There still gods children , so stop
with the nonsense .
 
Do you celebrate at our service men and womens
military funerals? Do you blame there
sacrifices and deaths on the gay community?

Again I don’t advocate the life style, but I don’t
hate them . There still gods children , so stop
with the nonsense .
You decided to answer my question with one of your own.
  1. I do not celebrate their funerals because I find no reason to do so and I’m from the Philippines. Your question about dead American servicemen and servicemen is invalid!
  2. Why should I blame that on the GLBT community?
I don’t hate them either. So please do not use the word “hate” so easily in this discussion.
 
However, hard data did not support this claim, and in fact, legitimate studies show that the #1 cause of bullying in schools is body size/shape
I absolutely agree with this. I have seen this when I was a kid myself, how school kids used to bully boys who were weak or effeminate. It may just happen that the weak or effeminate boy turned out to be homosexual, but he was not bullied for being a homosexual. Not that I am justifying bulling in any way, but I see it as something that should be addressed at its root cause.
 
It doesn’t surprise me at all that a teen is less likely to get bullied for being gay in Canada than in the United States.
What is really surprising is that you completely ignored the point in the OP’s post and went on a tangent. That’s really surprising.
 
Your reasoning at this point is very weak.
So anyone who uses the word “enabler” is from the WBC? There are others (like myself) who use that word and yet reject the WBC.
Hatred? You want to know what is hatred? It’s not caring for where their souls ultimately end up in! That is something that homosexualists and their enabler allies tend to do!
I never said you are from the WBC, I said your wording was the same as theirs so it worried me. I’m sorry, but I see a bit of hatred inside of people who have some ridiculous idea that homosexuality is for some reason a special kind of “super sin.”
 
because of contraception. Aids was invented by active homosexual male couples in america. Those were the earliest cases known to science, before aids was even “aids”. It’s everybody’s problem now, I agree. But trying to pass the blame away from homosexuality when it is 100% responsible for the creation of this monstrosity, is wrong.
AIDS was not “invented” by homosexuals. It’s a virus and has probably been around a long time, though likely in a form not so virulent and deadly. This is a virus that mutates quickly - one of the reasons a vaccine has not been created yet. HIV / AIDS was probably active in its present form since at least mid 20th century, just not identified. There were unidentified illnesses in those days that were referred to as “wasting” diseases - very possibly HIV. Nor was the disease portion of it (AIDS) prevalent because sexual mores were different during those times and that seems to be the speediest way for this virus to travel. But to say homosexuals invented it is, for lack of a better word, preposterous.
 
I never said you are from the WBC, I said your wording was the same as theirs so it worried me. I’m sorry, but I see a bit of hatred inside of people who have some ridiculous idea that homosexuality is for some reason a special kind of “super sin.”
Then I’m telling you this.
Do not worry, I am not from the WBC. I know that you’re insinuating that I think or am from the WBC.
To claim that I hate them is really faulty reasoning.
 
Your seem to be angry, is that what religion
does for you? I value human life , all walks
of it , and as far as the post is concerned on
gay teens die , who’s to blame. It should not
even merit attention.
 
Then I’m telling you this.
Do not worry, I am not from the WBC. I know that you’re insinuating that I think or am from the WBC.
To claim that I hate them is really faulty reasoning.
I know you aren’t, I believe that you’re Catholic. You may not hate homosexuals, but the attitude you seem to have regarding this issue does not show any love toward them.
 
Your seem to be angry, is that what religion
does for you? I value human life , all walks
of it , and as far as the post is concerned on
gay teens die , who’s to blame. It should not
even merit attention.
I’m not even angry. I just answer these questions of yours in a very direct and decisive manner.

I do think that those who willfully ignore the problems are partly to blame for it.
 
I know you aren’t, I believe that you’re Catholic. You may not hate homosexuals, but the attitude you seem to have regarding this issue does not show any love toward them.
If by love you mean enabling, then I do not have enabling.
I do love them, enough to care where their souls ultimately end up in. Hence, me condemning homosexism and enabling.
 
sigh the misinformation about the teachings of the Catholic Church is overwhelming.

Although CCC 2357 states:

CCC 2357: Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that “homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered.” They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.

The next paragraph explains how we should treat them:

CCC 2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.

I think both sides are forgetting that we must hate the sin, love the sinner.
 
If by love you mean enabling, then I do not have enabling.
I do love them, enough to care where their souls ultimately end up in. Hence, me condemning homosexism and enabling.
Your attitude towards homosexuals, as though they are all Hell bound makes you come across as being hateful towards them. You seem to be forgetting that homosexuality is a sin, and all sin can be forgiven.
 
Your attitude towards homosexuals, as though they are all Hell bound makes you come across as being hateful towards them. You seem to be forgetting that homosexuality is a sin, and all sin can be forgiven.
You’re insinuating something which is dead false.
So by your logic, if I do not enable their sins, I’m, hateful. Keep saying that and I’ll win this debate.
 
Brother, if you are truly concerned with there souls , you
don’t drive them away from our religion and faith
I don’t know you , but you come across as
harsh, and by doing so even if you mean well
your not helping your cause
 
If by love you mean enabling, then I do not have enabling.
I do love them, enough to care where their souls ultimately end up in. Hence, me condemning homosexism and enabling.
BINGO. This is what tolerance ignores. All of you who would rather wash your hands of this issue and pretend that it is a legitimate option to let people do what they want without you interfering, keep this in mind, that if you loved a man even in the slightest you would want for him to obtain salvation.

It is truly the work of Satan to frame love as hate. And that’s what the LGBT agenda is trying to do. They are trying to frame legitimate Christian love as hatred. Let me remind you all, that there is a world far beyond that which our eyes can see. If you cannot comprehend the desires of true love, which seeks spiritual purity and eternal salvation, then surely you must remove yourself from the indulgences of the physical world. What good is money, what good is food, if in the end you do not obtain salvation? What good is comfort, what good is life, if in the end you will just remain dead? Live as they say to live, and surely you will die. Die, as Christ says you must, and Amen you will live.
 
Brother, if you are truly concerned with there souls , you
don’t drive them away from our religion and faith
I don’t know you , but you come across as
harsh, and by doing so even if you mean well
your not helping your cause
I agree with you here. They should not be driven away. However, that is not an excuse for enabling behavior because then, we are not doing it out of love. You could end up with a dilemma there with your suggestion, friend.
 
If we love them we must support them in their fight to remain pure, and if they do not fight we must encourage them to do so. We must stand with them and, in doing so, discourage them from sinning.

Jake Parker,
Crescentinus is not saying that all homosexuals will go to Hell. He is saying that the unrepentant and active ones will end up in the same place as the unrepentant and active straight people.
 
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