Gender in relation to Pro-Life beliefs

[Nate13]

as long as youre honest about what you want. thats cool.

Do you also say that we want to force people to live because we don’t assist people in committing suicide? Your reasoning is awful.

All I’m asking is that people don’t expect the government i.e society to help them murder someone else or themselves. If they are willing to accept the consequences of murdering someone there is only so much we can do to prevent it from occurring. We sure as hell don’t help them murder someone though. That’s morality 101.

 

[Cristiano]

as long as youre honest about what you want. thats cool.

Please read the following article:

At 30, I learned that my mother was raped by her father…and I was that child

 

[hazmat]

Do you also say that we want to force people to live because we don’t assist people in committing suicide? Your reasoning is awful.

All I’m asking is that people don’t expect the government i.e society to help them murder someone else or themselves. If they are willing to accept the consequences of murdering someone there is only so much we can do to prevent it from occurring. We sure as hell don’t help them murder someone though. That’s morality 101.

i think people should be able to kill themselves, if thats what youre asking. ive never argued that the government is obligated to assist with abortions. i just dont think it should be illegal. i dont consider abortion murder.

cristiano, what am i supposed to get from that article?

 

[Lenas_mama]

Female - pro life

 

[fms]

A lot of people on this forum are going to disagree with me, but I said female, pro choice.

Now, I myself wouldn’t get an abortion, but I feel like it is bad for the government to regulate it. Why? If a young girl is raped, there needs to be a safe alternative for her. I know a lot of people would say, “Well, that’s still killing.” Which it is. That’s where I hit a bit of a stumbling block. It’s easy for males to say, “No abortion, period.” They don’t have to fear carrying the baby of someone who raped them. But as a female, we could be directly impacted by abortion laws.

The reason I posted this poll is because I want to see how many females are prolife. Honestly, that says more than males who are prolife; abortion laws wouldn’t affect men directly.

Now, I myself wouldn’t get an abortion…hmmm…very revealing!

We should always ask for humility which is that, apart from God/his grace, we all can commit the most horrendous evil there is.

With man its impossible, with God everything is possible. Let’s complicate your situation just a little more: not only is the young girl raped, but the rapist is the father (Just seen it on New Advent). As another posted, if God went ahead and created this life despite the circumstances, who are we to terminate it because of the circumstances?

It does not end there, remember that same God’s Son? He became human and that child that was created under those circumstances is called (as all of us) to be part of His Body. To be joined to him closer than any natural bond…If the Christ wants to unite himself to this child who are we to reject it?

As he told Peter, what God has made clean, do not call unclean.

I personally think one reason God allows these circumstances is so that we can we can know the really foul nature of evil… Blame it on our father who wanted us to know good and evil but thank God and His Son in the Spirit who cleans and will rid the world of all evil…

PS I have come to dislike both the terms pro-life and pro-choice. I saw a bumper sticker that said God is pro-life…God IS Life!

 

[He_Man]

Now, I myself wouldn’t get an abortion…hmmm…very revealing!

We should always ask for humility which is that, apart from God/his grace, we all can commit the most horrendous evil there is.

The whole “now I wouldn’t get an abortion personally schtick” so frankly so disingenuous and silly. How big of someone to have personal objections to something and not do it

Many people essentially say “I personally wouldn’t get an abortion because I believe the child deserves a chance at life, but I wouldn’t want to force my beliefs on others.” How does that even compute? I have always suspected people who hold this belief really don’t have that big an objection deep down - same goes for the crowd that twists logic into defending a vote for a pro-abortion candidate because of some fantasy about “the other candidate isn’t for the poor” or some nonsense like that.

Using that logic elsewhere shows how shallow and frankly cowardly that belief is:

• “I wouldn’t personally have an affair, but I wouldn’t want that belief forced on anyone else.”
• “I wouldn’t personally murder my relatives, but I wouldn’t want that belief forced on anyone else.”
• “I wouldn’t personally throw our family dog headlong into traffic, but I wouldn’t want that belief forced on anyone else.”

If something is morally wrong and thus you feel compelled to refrain from it personally, you should also object to anyone doing it, since it was a moral objection you had.

Just stop being coy and nuanced. If it is wrong, just say so. At least posters like Hazmat, despite being the polar opposite of everything I believe in, including the use of capitalization, doesn’t try to walk a fine line, or play both ends against the middle. His logic is consistent (albeit wrong), moreso than many others on here frankly.

 

[hazmat]

he man, i dont think thats a fair characterization of that position, suggesting that the logic is inconsistent.i disagree with the religious indoctrination of children, and i wouldnt engage in that myself, but i wouldnt make it illegal for others do so. i believe its a non sequitur to say that if you think people should behave a certain way, you must think they should be forced to.

 

[Brendan]

That’s why I qualified my statement with the word “directly.” Sure it impacts men, but you can’t possibly argue that abortion more DIRECTLY impacts men than it does women.

I would say that the ones it affects most directly are the children themselves. And those are (generally) evenly split between males and females.

So what I can argue is that abortion most directly affects both sexes equally.

Your entire point is very similar to discussing if slavery affected male plantation owners more than female plantation owners, while leaving the slaves themselves entirely out of the picture.

 

[Holly3278]

I am a female and I am 100% pro-life.