General statement on scripture

[Clovis]

Scripture has been written thousands of years ago, and therefore as the governments and social connections have varied, the idea that maybe we shouldn’t be so severe in defending quite old doctrines, for as it says in Zachariah, “not by my might, nor my strength, but by my spirit.” I’m afraid when the end-times come, many will be guilty of swearing by God falsely, which is also warned about in Zachariah. I take this very seriously and therefore apply non-judgment and modern-life realities to mold a fuller concept of a loving and caring God.

 

[ryanoneil]

Scripture has been written thousands of years ago, and therefore as the governments and social connections have varied, the idea that maybe we shouldn’t be so severe in defending quite old doctrines, for as it says in Zachariah, “not by my might, nor my strength, but by my spirit.” I’m afraid when the end-times come, many will be guilty of swearing by God falsely, which is also warned about in Zachariah. I take this very seriously and therefore apply non-judgment and modern-life realities to mold a fuller concept of a loving and caring God.

Zechariah has so many Messianic prophecies in it. It took from the 6th century b.c. to the time of Jesus for his prophecies to be fullfilled. He said that the Messiah would come and renew the faith of his people and that he would do this during Daniel’s seventh week. Did not Babylon, Persia, Greece, and Rome fall as he predicted and Jesus Christ arrive. (The dream about destruction of the Statue)
I don’t know if you if you are aware that both these prophets accurately predicted the coming of Christ and the establishment of his Kingdom during his first coming, which puts us in the end times 2,000 years already. I stick to the traditions I have been taught, that have survived 2,000 years while governments and social connections have crumbled and disappeared. I apply Jesus to mold a fuller concept of a loving a caring God, not modern life realities and non-judgment, because Jesus is the one who will judge us when he returns. So, what “quite old doctrines” are not worth severely defending? The ones Zechariah forsaw in Christ coming?

 

[Yerusalyim]

CLOVIS,

We are IN the end times now…and have been, according to St. Paul, for the last 2000 years…other than that, I’m not really sure what you’re trying to say…which “quite old doctrines” are you talking about? God’s message is as alive today as it was when he first spoke to Adam and Eve, as alive as the first moment his finger wrote on the stoes at Mt. Sinai, as alive as the first prophetic utterance of Isaiah, and as alive as the first time Jesus taught.

 

[ryanoneil]

CLOVIS,

We are IN the end times now…and have been, according to St. Paul, for the last 2000 years…other than that, I’m not really sure what you’re trying to say…which “quite old doctrines” are you talking about? God’s message is as alive today as it was when he first spoke to Adam and Eve, as alive as the first moment his finger wrote on the stoes at Mt. Sinai, as alive as the first prophetic utterance of Isaiah, and as alive as the first time Jesus taught.

I agee with what you’ve said here. In my first response I was trying to figure out what doctrines you were talking about. I’m referring to the Catholic Church who’s doctrines are old but just as alive today they have always been. I think they are worth strongly defending. What doctrines do you think aren’t worth strongly defending?

 

[Clovis]

It is not that I believe the doctrines are false, either in the early epistles or Catholic doctrine. I am simply saying that liberalities create many people that were raised non-believers. Christ himself said people that taught children not to believe in him will be punished; therefore it’s sensible to wonder whether it is the non-believers fault in the first place, as they themselves, probably early on, were taught not to believe.

 

[Daniel_Marsh]

Matthew 7:2
For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

When I am not medicated and in a right frame of mind, I tend to judge others with mercy because that is the lesson Jesus is teaching us to do or use.

So, keep God’s law in mind, but whenever you can apply mercy do so.

 

[Clovis]

Zechariah has so many Messianic prophecies in it. It took from the 6th century b.c. to the time of Jesus for his prophecies to be fullfilled. He said that the Messiah would come and renew the faith of his people and that he would do this during Daniel’s seventh week. Did not Babylon, Persia, Greece, and Rome fall as he predicted and Jesus Christ arrive. (The dream about destruction of the Statue)
I don’t know if you if you are aware that both these prophets accurately predicted the coming of Christ and the establishment of his Kingdom during his first coming, which puts us in the end times 2,000 years already. I stick to the traditions I have been taught, that have survived 2,000 years while governments and social connections have crumbled and disappeared. I apply Jesus to mold a fuller concept of a loving a caring God, not modern life realities and non-judgment, because Jesus is the one who will judge us when he returns. So, what “quite old doctrines” are not worth severely defending? The ones Zechariah forsaw in Christ coming?

The “quite old doctrine” I’m referring to is all which does not proceed from the golden-rule, which Christ said was the spirit of the prophets. Accusing others is not part of the golden-rule, and therefore many will fall hard simply because they swear falsely by God with there lack of mercy.

 

[ryanoneil]

I agree we should always show mercy. Take someone who murders your relative in cold blood, we can easily judge the action and say it was wrong. Thou shalt not kill. It may take some time but we must forgive that person. What we can’t judge is if that person will be forgiven and spend eternity in heaven. Actions can be judged the person overall can’t.

 

[Clovis]

I agree we should always show mercy. Take someone who murders your relative in cold blood, we can easily judge the action and say it was wrong. Thou shalt not kill. It may take some time but we must forgive that person. What we can’t judge is if that person will be forgiven and spend eternity in heaven. Actions can be judged the person overall can’t.

My agrument was that many do not make this distinction.

 

[ryanoneil]

My agrument was that many do not make this distinction.

We can definately agree on that point. There is an awful lot of judging going on and unfortunately I’m often guilty of it. So, please pray for me in that regard and I’ll do the same for you.
God bless you!