Genesis 3:15

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'I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel.'

Can somebody patiently explain how this references Mary and Jesus. It is given as a defence of how Mary will, by a superabundant degree of grace, be sinless and placed at enmity to Satan… I think.

The bit I am particularly unsure of is the bold: what does it mean that she shall crush Satan’s head? How will Mary crush Satan’s head? And also, why should we not assume that this is in-fact a reference to Eve?

The lay-reader will probably assume, judging by what is said before and after, that the woman refers to Eve: 3:16 ‘To the woman also he said.’ [here referencing Eve]

Kind thanks in advance.
 
Mat2:13 And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him…16 Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently enquired of the wise men.

Rev12:4 And his tail draweth the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon standeth before the woman that is about to be delivered, that when she is delivered he may devour her child…17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
 
Mat2:13 And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him…16 Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently enquired of the wise men.

Rev12:4 And his tail draweth the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon standeth before the woman that is about to be delivered, that when she is delivered he may devour her child…17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
If you relate this to Genesis 3: 15, this kind of proves that the woman is indeed Eve: ‘and went to make war with the rest of her seed, who keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ’. This clearly marks a difference between her seed, and Jesus Christ… which suggests that the reason why She shall crush Satan’s head, is because her seed [humanity] will keep the commandments of God.
 
My CATHOLIC bible reads this: Genesis 3: 15

I will put enmity between you and the woman,
and between your seed and her seed;
he shall bruise your head,*
and you shall bruise his heel.’
  • 3:15, he shall bruise your head i.e., the seed of the woman, that is, mankind descended from Eve, will eventually gain the victory over the powers of evil…
This is from a CATHOLIC BIBLE*, and yet many people here have tried to argue that Genesis 3:15 refers to Mary… Does anybody still disagree???

*Revised Standard Version - Second Catholic Edition
 
My CATHOLIC bible reads this: Genesis 3: 15

I will put enmity between you and the woman,
and between your seed and her seed;
he shall bruise your head,*
and you shall bruise his heel.’
  • 3:15, he shall bruise your head i.e., the seed of the woman, that is, mankind descended from Eve, will eventually gain the victory over the powers of evil…
This is from a CATHOLIC BIBLE*, and yet many people here have tried to argue that Genesis 3:15 refers to Mary… Does anybody still disagree???

*Revised Standard Version - Second Catholic Edition
Or, here’s a thought…the serpent just got condemned to crawl on it’s belly and to bite the heel of humans and (because it’s on the ground) a human is liable to step on the snake’s head and bruise it.
 
My CATHOLIC bible reads this: Genesis 3: 15

I will put enmity between you and the woman,
and between your seed and her seed;
he shall bruise your head,*
and you shall bruise his heel.’
  • 3:15, he shall bruise your head i.e., the seed of the woman, that is, mankind descended from Eve, will eventually gain the victory over the powers of evil…
This is from a CATHOLIC BIBLE*, and yet many people here have tried to argue that Genesis 3:15 refers to Mary… Does anybody still disagree???

*Revised Standard Version - Second Catholic Edition
The simple answer to this is: the Latin Vulgate (and translations derived from it, such as the original Douai-Rheims and Douai-Rheims Challoner) has the pronoun ipsa, which is in the feminine gender. “Ipsa conteret caput tuum, et tu insidiaberis calcaneo eius.” Ipsa literally translates to ‘herself’ (the masculine form is ipse; the neuter is ipsum). Eius is rather ambiguous: it is the genitive singular (all genders) of the demonstrative adjective whose nominative singular form is, is (masc.)

The Hebrew meanwhile runs thus: “Hû’ yəšûfəḵā rō’š, wə’atâ təšûfennû 'āqēḇ.” Literally, it goes something like: “Hû’ he-shall-bruise (šûf)-you [a] head, and you ('atâ; second person singular masculine) you-shall-bruise (šûf)-him [a] heel.” Hû’ is the third person singular, independent nominative pronoun. It often means ‘he’ (there was that joke about how is who in Hebrew*hû’**hi’*mi), but apparently there are a few places in the OT where it can also mean ‘she’ - especially in the Torah.

For the most part Hebrew does not (as does English) require the use of an independent pronoun to precede a finite verb when the noun-subject is omitted. When it does appear it is usually for emphasis or in another type of construction.
One such construction is a nominal sentence or clause, that is a sentence which has no finite verb, but a noun or an adjective (including the participle as a verbal adjective) acts as the predicate. (The English must include a form of the verb “to be.” In this construction the pronoun is necessary if the noun subject is omitted: with a noun predicate, “it (is) my master” (Gen 24:65), with an adjective predicate, “he was faint” (Gen 25:29), with a participle predicate, “he (was) sitting at the door of the tent” (Gen 18:1).
When such a nominal sentence or phrase is connected with preceding material it may be translated as if the pronoun were a relative: “Bela, which is Zoar,” (Gen 14:2), “Esau, who is Edom” (Gen 36:1). Occasionally the pronoun follows the predicate: thus, “unclean it,” to be translated “it is unclean” (Num 19:15), “twenty gerahs it,” “it is twenty gerahs” (Num 18:16). This is especially true in dependent clauses such as those introduced by ki, meaning “that,” “for,” “because”: “for unclean he,” that is “he is unclean” (Lev 13:11), “because many they (were)” (Num 22:3). This is also common with 'asher, meaning “which,” “that”: “from the beast which not clean it (is)” (Gen 7:2), “which not from your seed he (is)” (Gen 17:12), often called the resumptive pronoun.
Sometimes in a nominal sentence the pronoun stands between the subject and the nominal predicate where the English would have a form of the verb “to be”: “And Joseph, he (was) the ruler” (Gen 42:6), “you (are) he, God” (2Sa 7:28). The pronoun, which is redundant in English, is not in this case, a substitute for the verb “to be” but is used to indicate emphasis, ‘atta hu’: It is you that. Also after an interrogative the pronoun may be added for emphasis, “who (is he that) will condemn me?” (Isa 50:9).
The pronoun may be used before a finite verb when a phrase separates the subject from the verb: “The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me” (Gen 3:12), and “one that shall come… he shall inherit (from) you” (Gen 15:4). Unless there is reason for emphasis this use is redundant in English and not generally translated.
The pronoun is also used to tie in an additional subject added after the predicate, “And Joseph returned to Egypt, he, and his brethren, and all” (Gen 50:14).
With the article, the pronoun may function as the demonstrative adjective, “that” (corresponding to zeh “this”), “that place” (Gen 21:31), “in that day” meaning “the same day” (Gen 15:18).
hu’ may be used simply for emphasis: 'I know that he can speak" (Exo 4:14), or “the Lord, he (is) God” (Psa 100:3). The emphasis may be expressed in English by “himself,” “the Lord himself will require it” (Jos 22:23). When it is used to reinforce a preceding suffix pronoun, it is difficult to translate in writing, because the English equivalent is to put stress on that pronoun, “what he saith,” that is, what Hushai says in contrast to what Ahithophel has said (literally, “what is in his mouth,” 2Sa 17:5).
The w and y are not merely vowel letters as shown by the Ugaritic pronouns huwa “he” and hiya “she” (hw and hy).
Unexplained is the usage in the Pentateuch and a few other places where hw’ means either “he” (vocalized hu’) or “she” (vocalized with a perpetual qere hi’). In the past this has led some to feel that the original pronoun for both genders was hw’ but Ugaritic denies this conclusion. Apparently the situation is due to some dialect or vagary of a scribal school.
 
If you relate this to Genesis 3: 15, this kind of proves that the woman is indeed Eve: ‘and went to make war with the rest of her seed, who keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ’. This clearly marks a difference between her seed, and Jesus Christ… which suggests that the reason why She shall crush Satan’s head, is because her seed [humanity] will keep the commandments of God.
Tannhauser in Christ,

Rev 12 points to Mary and not Eve. Revelation 12:13-17 says:
And when the dragon saw that he had been thrown down to the earth, he pursued the woman who had borne the male child. But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle that she might fly from the serpent into the wilderness, to the place where she is to be nourished for a time, and times, and half a time. The serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, to sweep her away with the flood. But the earth came to the help of the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed the river which the dragon had poured from his mouth. Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus. And he stood on the sand of the sea.
It is clear from the passage that:
  1. The woman gave birth to the male child that would rule the world with a rod of iron[see Rev12:5], and everyone knows that the male child is Jesus. The mother of Jesus is Mary.
  2. There are three individuals in Genesis 3. There is Adam, Eve, and Satan. In Rev 12 there are also three individuals. Mary, Jesus[the last Adam], and Satan. Just as there was a fall in Genesis, there is a parallel of redemption spoken of in Revelation 12.
  3. Satan pursues the woman, but he cannot catch her. She is given wings to escape. Later Satan tries again by pouring water out of his mouth, but the woman escapes this as well. Eve did not escape Satan and she ate of the forbidden fruit in the garden. Mary by the grace of God and His predestination of her to be the mother of Jesus remained sinless.
There is much more that goes along with this, but I hope this begins to help.

God bless.
 
My CATHOLIC bible reads this: Genesis 3: 15

I will put enmity between you and the woman,
and between your seed and her seed;
he shall bruise your head,*
and you shall bruise his heel.’
  • 3:15, he shall bruise your head i.e., the seed of the woman, that is, mankind descended from Eve, will eventually gain the victory over the powers of evil…
This is from a CATHOLIC BIBLE*, and yet many people here have tried to argue that Genesis 3:15 refers to Mary… Does anybody still disagree???

*Revised Standard Version - Second Catholic Edition
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The gender of the person who crushes the serpent does not matter. The promise of an act that puts enmity between the woman and the serpent does. The RSV-2CE footnote (which you have quoted only a tiny portion of) does not elaborate on the meaning or identity of the people who are at enmity. It does, however, cross-reference Revelation 12:9. Speaking of which…
If you relate this to Genesis 3: 15, this kind of proves that the woman is indeed Eve: ‘and went to make war with the rest of her seed, who keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ’. This clearly marks a difference between her seed, and Jesus Christ… which suggests that the reason why She shall crush Satan’s head, is because her seed [humanity] will keep the commandments of God.
All humans are the children of Eve—including the ones who do NOT “keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.” Revelation clearly depicts some of those “children” as being cast into hell, and since those who go to hell are those who cooperate with the devil (see Rev 19:20), such “children” are not at war with the devil. Furthermore, Eve is NOT the mother of Jesus Christ and the Woman of Revelation 12 clearly is. If you nevertheless insist that the woman is Eve, you are asserting that everyone will go to heaven when that is, sadly, not the case.
 
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