Genesis 9:5

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And I shall demand account of your life-blood, too. I shall demand it of every animal, and of man. Of man as regards his fellow-man, I shall demand account for human life.
Taking into account that The Lord had just decided that man could eat animals,…
how do you interpret this passage?🤷
 
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And I shall demand account of your life-blood, too. I shall demand it of every animal, and of man. Of man as regards his fellow-man, I shall demand account for human life.
Taking into account that The Lord had just decided that man could eat animals,…
how do you interpret this passage?🤷
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I think it means he will demand an account for loss of human life from whoever is guilty of taking it — man or beast. Here’s the Haydock footnote (it’s verse 5 in the Douay):

Ver. 5. At the hand; a Hebrew idiom. **God orders an ox to be stoned, which had slain a man, Exodus xxi. 28. **— Man, (hominis) every man, (viri) brother. By these three terms, God inculcates a horror of bloodshed; because we are all of the same nature, ought to act like generous men, and to consider every individual as a brother, since we spring from the same stock. (Menochius)
 
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I think it means he will demand an account for loss of human life from whoever is guilty of taking it — man or beast. Here’s the Haydock footnote (it’s verse 5 in the Douay):

Ver. 5. At the hand; a Hebrew idiom. **God orders an ox to be stoned, which had slain a man, Exodus xxi. 28. **— Man, (hominis) every man, (viri) brother. By these three terms, God inculcates a horror of bloodshed; because we are all of the same nature, ought to act like generous men, and to consider every individual as a brother, since we spring from the same stock. (Menochius)
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Why would he hold an animal accountable for the taking of a life? I thought a lot of people believed that animals have no souls? :blush:This footnote would seem to indicate that an Ox is on equal footing with man in God’s eyes.🤷
 
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Why would he hold an animal accountable for the taking of a life? I thought a lot of people believed that animals have no souls? :blush:This footnote would seem to indicate that an Ox is on equal footing with man in God’s eyes.🤷
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They don’t have human souls, but they are “living” and have animal souls. Since their souls do not have the powers of intellect and free will they are not held accountable in the way we are. Whether there is any private judgementalinteraction between God and the animal (what it would consist of) would be pure speculation. What Scripture does show is that the laws established under God’s Old Covenant called for taking the guilty animal’s life.

Our secular laws continue to “judge” animals who take human life; and they (animals) are generally put to death.

It’s not that the ox is equal in value to a human. We’re speaking here only of a human person being killed, and it’s the value of that human life that is important. Human life is so valuable that even if an animal (who is inferior to humans and incapable of making a reasoned free choice) kills, the death penalty applies.

I don’t believe there is a death penalty anywhere in Scripture for the wrongful taking of animal life.
 
Verse 4 says, “Saving that flesh with blood you shall not eat.” (Douay Rheims). God, here, is telling Noah that, while it is OK to eat animals, it is not OK to eat the blood. God expands on these things when He gives the Law to Moses. That’s when we see provisions given for animals that kill people (their owners were sometimes liable as well), and even the laws about pouring out the blood before eating the flesh.
 
Start at Genesis9:1-6 God now enhances the value of mankind.Animals will be afraid of humans and God gives mankind the license to use them for food.Even though Mosaic Laws has not been promulgated Blood with it’s life force so powerful that it speaks to God when spilled.
V5-6 Could be rendered “in compensation for a humans” Human life is distinguished and held to be of a higher ‘price’ than animal life.being made in the image and likeness of God ,human life demands more respect. In Talmud v.5 is believed to be a prohibition on suicide and v.6 is cited in support of the prohibition of abortion.In Jewish law suicide is prohibited along with abortion which is allowed under only extreme circumstances and never to be used for birth control
.v 8-17 It is taught that in the Talmud"noah’s descendants (humanity) are bound by seven universal laws-these are known as the Noachide Laws- these will reflected later in Mosaic Laws.
1.establish courts of justice
2refrain from blasphemy of YHWH
3. refrain from idolatry
4.refrain from sexual perversion
5.refrain from bloodshed
6.refrain from robbery
7.not to cut flesh from a living animal.
Although Jews have hundreds of more laws, Gentiles who observe
"seven commandments of the descendants of Noah’ can meet with God’s full approval.
 
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You guys have definitely given me pause to think. Thank you for your insight. This will probably be the shortest thread ever…😊
 
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