Genuflecting just before receiving the Eucharist?

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PKinsale said:
Constantine, you make sense to a point. I would caution against scrupulosity on such a point when the bishops, whom you call the rightful authority here, do not see it that way themselves.
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Scrupulosity? It seems that many do not understand the importance of the virtue of obedience when it comes to obeying rightful authorities.
 
PKinsale said:
Constantine, you make sense to a point. I would caution against scrupulosity on such a point when the bishops, whom you call the rightful authority here, do not see it that way themselves.
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The Bishops are rightful authorities in their own diocese. In many instances, they have the same powers as the Pope has within the limits of their territory. And as I mentioned, they are goverened by the laws of the Church and these laws are very explicit on what they can or cannot do.

RS is very, very explicit in saying that the Conference of Bishops would establish the norm. I don’t even know why there is an argument contrary to that. Until the Pope or the CDWDS issues another document or ammends RS, then what is on there is what carries the force of law today.
 
Well let’s cut to the chase. Do you consider genuflecting before receiving Communion a sin if one does it in full knowledge of what GIRM 160 says?
 
I was recieved into the church 5 yrs. ago. We had over 30 in my RCIA class and we were all tought to bow before recieving. I notice almost every one bows in my cjurch while there is one that drops to his knees while recieving. I really do not see why such a big deal is made of how as long as reverence is shown as we approachg the Blessed Sacrement.
 
PKinsale said:
Well let’s cut to the chase. Do you consider genuflecting before receiving Communion a sin if one does it in full knowledge of what GIRM 160 says?
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Would you consider not saying “Amen” when you receive a sin?

These are rubrics of the Mass. How many people come in here and complain that the priest is not following the rubrics of the Mass? Then suddenly when its our turn to be following the rubrics, its a free-for-all.

Do I consider it a sin? I’m not an authority of what is a sin or not, but I will tell you this, pride is a sin. Most often people do not follow what their bishops say out of pride. Because they think they know better. Its not the breaking of the rubrics in itself is the sin, but one’s intention in breaking them.
 
BigDave31 said:
I was recieved into the church 5 yrs. ago. We had over 30 in my RCIA class and we were all tought to bow before recieving. I notice almost every one bows in my cjurch while there is one that drops to his knees while recieving. I really do not see why such a big deal is made of how as long as reverence is shown as we approachg the Blessed Sacrement.
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Bowing is the correct thing to do. Its the prescription in America and in Australia. I haven’t read the GIRM of other countries, nor do I intend to out of just mere curiosity. Canada doesn’t have an approved local adaptation of the GIRM though. So we do not have such rubrics except for the general ones.
 
ConstantineTG said:
I’m not an authority of what is a sin or not, but I will tell you this, pride is a sin. Most often people do not follow what their bishops say out of pride. Because they think they know better. Its not the breaking of the rubrics in itself is the sin, but one’s intention in breaking them.
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Amen! 🙂
 
ConstantineTG said:
Would you consider not saying “Amen” when you receive a sin?

These are rubrics of the Mass. How many people come in here and complain that the priest is not following the rubrics of the Mass? Then suddenly when its our turn to be following the rubrics, its a free-for-all.

Do I consider it a sin? I’m not an authority of what is a sin or not, but I will tell you this, pride is a sin. Most often people do not follow what their bishops say out of pride. Because they think they know better. Its not the breaking of the rubrics in itself is the sin, but one’s intention in breaking them.
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In Post No. 38 above, you accused someone of judging you. Are you not doing that here?
 
PKinsale said:
In Post No. 38 above, you accused someone of judging you. Are you not doing that here?
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This is a classic argument around these forums. There is a difference between judging and telling what is. Saying what is sinful and wrong is not judging. Making remarks like one is having an agenda is.

Besides, what does this point have to do with the topic? Or are you just seeking to ad hominem?
 
I jenuflect before recieving my Lord, and the day anyone priest or bishop corrects me on it, is the day I walk away from the Catholic church. Our Lord deserves reverance.:signofcross:
 
Renko said:
I jenuflect before recieving my Lord, and the day anyone priest or bishop corrects me on it, is the day I walk away from the Catholic church. Our Lord deserves reverance.:signofcross:
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Good heavens! Where in the world would you go? I am hoping you are just emphasizing the reverence factor in our reception of the Body and Blood of Jesus. Nothing could ever make me walk away from His Church.
 
VetA said:
you dont bow to the person giving communion, you bow to Jesus
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I don’t think mswood is stating that he/she bows down to the person. He/she is stating that as a practice they bow down as the person in front if receiving.
 
Renko,
I agree with you. As to where would I go, as one poster asked? Why to FSSP for the EF Mass. And lacking an FSSP parish, which I’m not, I’d go to SSPX.

Cheers
 
VetA said:
you dont bow to the person giving communion, you bow to Jesus
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They never said they were bowing to the person giving communion. They said they bowed AS the person in front of them was receiving.
 
Binary said:
Thanks for the answers, all. I really wish that the laity in America (myself included) were better educated, especially about the mass. I’ve seen people bowing, and I just assumed that those people had no idea what they were doing. Yet it was the opposite, since I had no idea that a sign of reverence was called for!

Also, even combining those who bow and those who genuflect, they are greatly in the minority of the laity in general. Why is this practice so rare? Why wasn’t I taught to do this at the Catholic school I attended?
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Key phrase: Why wasn’t I taught to do this at the Catholic school I attended?

Many Catholics (priests,nuns,etc) got really lazy or to laid back and lost the understanding and importance of the Mass and the reverence for it. I cannot remember where I once read an article stating, roughly 2 generations have no true understanding of the Mass and some blame goes on the church.
 
I am a recent re-vert back to the church and growing up i always was taught to receive Communion standing up and in the hand and to cross yourself after.
Recently i had learned of different views that it is more reverent to bow while the person before you is receiving Communon and then kneeling to receive the Host; and i had mediated and prayed on this and did searches on this topic.
And after all that i have come to believe that it is all a matter of where you are in your faith and what do you feel Jesus is calling you to. I for one fee that there is a deeper reverence in bowing and then receiving Communion kneeling. Not there those who dont do so are not being revernet i just feel where i am in my journey in love for Jesus that this is what i am being called to.

And as for what i guess i would call the norms for receiving Communion in the US and other areas as established by the Bishops of your parishes as far as I understand it as per Cardinal Arinze that the main way to receive Communion is kneeling and that any diocese where that is allowed had to be given permission by the Holy See and i am attaching the link from an interview Cardinal Arinze gave
youtube.com/watch?v=Ap1KL2D5ae4

May the Risen Lord grace you and bless us all with sharing in his suffering and his cross
 
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