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When I attend Mass, am I obligated to bow or genuflect at the altar?

Why do people bow and genuflect when they approach the altar?

Why do some people make the sign of the cross before entering the pews?

Firstly, I have yet to ask my priest these questions. I want to ask him these questions, but I’ve posted them here because I would like to know what you guys have to say.

Secondly, this topic is really confusing and a little. . well, almost scary for me. For those of you who don’t know, I come from a Protestant background–my very first experiences were in a Southern Baptist church that was very prejudice, very corrupt, very. . anti-Catholic.

Now, the first time I attended Mass, I saw people bowing and genuflecting at the altar. In fact, there’s a lot of people in my parish who do this many, many times during the Mass. I also noticed that people even made the sign of the cross before taking their seats in the pews, and many of the males–I haven’t seen any females do this, go figure–genuflected before taking their seats.

I didn’t know what to make of this. I’m learning that Catholics are taught to show respect to relics. (At least, that’s what I read in my New Saint Joseph Baltimore Catechism book. . 😊) So, from what I understand, people genuflect and bow to show their respect to the relics. But, I have a little trouble swallowing this. .

While I’m familiar with the practice of showing respect to inanimate, holy objects, it bothers me to bow or genuflect. The only time I really showed any real respect for special inanimate objects is when I broke away from the Christian church. It wasn’t a positive time in my life, and I was doing that for inappropriate reasons. . I think that experience has reinforced what I was taught as a Protestant–that is basically, don’t treat objects with reverence. To my understanding, that goes back to what the Bible says about graven images and idols.

I know Catholics do not indulge in idolatry. I know that relics are not meant to worship, but something about the bowing during Mass upsets me. Actually, that’s one of the things that upset my husband’s grandfather. It upset him so much, that is one of the reasons why he left the Church and became Protestant.

I watch the deacons and other people in the congregation. It looks like they give a little bow to the priest. I have to say honestly that this does not bother me. I understand that if people do this, it isn’t a sign of worship, but a sign of respect. I was very influenced by different Asian cultures as a child, and I would say that I am fairly knowledgeable about many Asian cultures. I’m familiar and comfortable with giving another person a bow–this is an extremely common practice in Japan. . . . But. . again, I don’t feel the same way about the altar for some reason. .

If someone could put this in perspective for me, I would greatly appreciate that. I don’t like feeling uneasy in Mass. There has to be a good reason for this practice.

But. . the whole sign of the cross before sitting in the pew thing. .

What’s that about? :confused:
 
If you are becoming Catholic, then you must understand and believe that The Eucharist is truly The Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Christ…It literally is Christ present. With that said, I think you are confused as to wear, or I should say Who, people are bowing to. Before entering the pew, one genuflects towards the Tabernacle, because our Lord Jesus Christ remains in there…The Consecrated Bread that has become Christ is present, therefore out of reverence, one Genuflects…sometimes older people who are unable to genuflect, bow to show their reverence. This is reinforced by the fact that on Good Friday, you do not genuflect towards The Tabernacle, because Our Lord is not present in there. As far as making the sign of The Cross, I always do it…but I am not sure if it is required or not required or left up to the individual…I do it also out of respect and reverence…and to remind myself exactly Who it is I am Adoring as I genuflect. It is all far from Idolatry. If your grandfather left the Church because of his perception of idolatry, then sadly he never understood his own faith…quite troublesome
When I attend Mass, am I obligated to bow or genuflect at the altar?

Why do people bow and genuflect when they approach the altar?

Why do some people make the sign of the cross before entering the pews?

Firstly, I have yet to ask my priest these questions. I want to ask him these questions, but I’ve posted them here because I would like to know what you guys have to say.

Secondly, this topic is really confusing and a little. . well, almost scary for me. For those of you who don’t know, I come from a Protestant background–my very first experiences were in a Southern Baptist church that was very prejudice, very corrupt, very. . anti-Catholic.

Now, the first time I attended Mass, I saw people bowing and genuflecting at the altar. In fact, there’s a lot of people in my parish who do this many, many times during the Mass. I also noticed that people even made the sign of the cross before taking their seats in the pews, and many of the males–I haven’t seen any females do this, go figure–genuflected before taking their seats.

I didn’t know what to make of this. I’m learning that Catholics are taught to show respect to relics. (At least, that’s what I read in my New Saint Joseph Baltimore Catechism book. . 😊) So, from what I understand, people genuflect and bow to show their respect to the relics. But, I have a little trouble swallowing this. .

While I’m familiar with the practice of showing respect to inanimate, holy objects, it bothers me to bow or genuflect. The only time I really showed any real respect for special inanimate objects is when I broke away from the Christian church. It wasn’t a positive time in my life, and I was doing that for inappropriate reasons. . I think that experience has reinforced what I was taught as a Protestant–that is basically, don’t treat objects with reverence. To my understanding, that goes back to what the Bible says about graven images and idols.

I know Catholics do not indulge in idolatry. I know that relics are not meant to worship, but something about the bowing during Mass upsets me. Actually, that’s one of the things that upset my husband’s grandfather. It upset him so much, that is one of the reasons why he left the Church and became Protestant.

I watch the deacons and other people in the congregation. It looks like they give a little bow to the priest. I have to say honestly that this does not bother me. I understand that if people do this, it isn’t a sign of worship, but a sign of respect. I was very influenced by different Asian cultures as a child, and I would say that I am fairly knowledgeable about many Asian cultures. I’m familiar and comfortable with giving another person a bow–this is an extremely common practice in Japan. . . . But. . again, I don’t feel the same way about the altar for some reason. .

If someone could put this in perspective for me, I would greatly appreciate that. I don’t like feeling uneasy in Mass. There has to be a good reason for this practice.

But. . the whole sign of the cross before sitting in the pew thing. .

What’s that about? :confused:
 
It’s because of the Real Prescence of Our Lord in the Tabernacle (not the altar. If people aren’t genuflecting in the direction of the tabernacle, they’re just not very smart :D). Just like people got on their knees before Christ in the old days, so we still do when we’re near Him. 🙂 It is a reverent hello and goodbye when we enter and leave Him in the church. The sign of the cross is another form of reverence, and prayer. When we do it as we enter or exit the Church, it is sort of a way of stating your intentions/loyalty. (In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit) Don’t feel uneasy about “bowing” or showing reverence to Christ in the Tabernacle. He’s definitely the ultimate person, He deserves it far more than the priest.

We also bow during this line in the Creed: “By the power of the Holy Spirit, he was born unto Mary, and became man.” Because again, we are talking about the Incarnation, or God being made flesh, just as with the Eucharist.

It’s not idol worship when it’s really God 🙂

This website should help you immensely! Fish Eaters (It explains almost all Catholic teaching in a straight-up, orthodox way.)

BTW anybody should wish to show God reverence out of your love and devotion to Him, it’s not hardened rules but rather courtesy and love. (Also respect to His representative, in the form of a little nod when the priest is entering or exiting.)

PS: We also bow our heads at the name “Jesus.” (respect and love)
PSS: Women also should genuflect :confused: If you’re a woman then be an example to them!
PSSS: :hug1: I’m very happy for you! I hope you enjoyed your first Mass!!
 
Technically, one should only genuflect when the Holy Eucharist is present upon the altar in the tabernacle. In most churches today the Eucharist is reserved in a tabernacle away from the main altar. I always genuflect because that was how I was raised and the Holy Eucharist was always on the main altar way back when.

Bowing is an acknowledgement that Our Lord is present. Both gestures are meant as signs of reverence for Our Lord. It really has nothing to do with relics but rather the presence of Our Lord in the Holy Eucharist.

Bowing is an ancient sign of respect. When altar boys or deacons assist the priest at Mass and bow, they are respecting the priest who is “in persona Christi”. They are not bowing to the priest but bowing to Our Lord. Indeed, (and I know this does not happen in most parishes), when the altar server incenses the congregation at a Mass with incense during the Offertory, he bows to the congregation.

It was not uncommon for me growing up in New Orleans before Vatican II and on a public bus to see all sorts of people making the Sign of the Cross when we passed in front of a Catholic church. It was to honor Our Lord who was present upon the altar.

Bottom line - bowing is a sign of respect. Genuflection is to honor Our Lord who is present on the altar. BTW, we are not the only ones to to this. Our Anglican brothers and sisters do so as well.
 
When I attend Mass, am I obligated to bow or genuflect at the altar?

Why do people bow and genuflect when they approach the altar?

Why do some people make the sign of the cross before entering the pews?
If you are not Catholic you are not obliged to bow or genuflect while visiting, though of course you may.

Catholics typically scan a parish upon entering to locate the tabernacle, which is usually a gold plated box at the front of the church on an altar. Or, perhaps it is sunk into a wall on the side in the front. Or it is not there and is in a side chapel. They are genuflecting in the direction of Christ in the sacrament reserved in the tabernacle. It is like saying, “Jesus, I adore you.” Since the tabernacle is often on an altar in the front, that is probably why you mention an altar. It only appears that they are aiming at the altar. But, if the tabernacle is in another room entirely, you are indeed seeing people bow towards the altar. However, I’d guess many Catholics wouldn’t make the distinction between if it is a bow or a genuflection that is required. Altar alone without tabernacle or with empty tabernacle = no genuflection. Substitute your usual behavior upon entering the church with a bow in the direction of altar. Jesus is not there, not in the same way.

Also, you may see a genuflection to Jesus sitting on the altar on the paten (the paten is the gold plate that the round white bread sits upon, until the consecration, whereupon it is no longer bread, but Christ).

We may pray the sign of the cross at any time. If you are seeing people who just entered the church building, they may have just dipped their finger in the holy water font and are recollecting their baptism and what Christ did upon the cross.

Oh, I forgot to add, some people who have bad knees never genuflect and substitute a bow. You may be seeing some combination of that thrown in there as well.
 
Waiting to cross the Tiber myself, but an excellent website to look at is:
www.adoremus.org it is full of proper protocol and has answered alot of my questions. Hope it helps.
Rose
 
All of the comments about genuflecting toward/before the Tabernacle because that is where Jesus is physically present are correct. However it is also appropriate to bow to the altar because it is the place where His Perfect Sacrifice is offered to the Father.

Incidentally, a bow is an acceptable alternative to the genuflection when the person is unable to genuflect or the conditions are not suitable (like if it’s a procession in an outdoor, muddy area). And I believe that the Eastern Rites always use the profound bow (from the waist) where we in the Roman Rite genuflect.
 
Thank you all for your help.

The reason why people bow and genuflect makes much more sense to me. However, I have to say honestly that I struggle with the idea of the transubstantiation. The Protestants that I was around don’t believe that, and as a result, I wasn’t taught that. It seems to me that everything is viewed a metaphorical and representational. . Sigh. .

I’m still trying to get my head around it. .
 
Thank you all for your help.

The reason why people bow and genuflect makes much more sense to me. However, I have to say honestly that I struggle with the idea of the transubstantiation. The Protestants that I was around don’t believe that, and as a result, I wasn’t taught that. It seems to me that everything is viewed a metaphorical and representational. . Sigh. .

I’m still trying to get my head around it. .
I understand. And I understand your problem with seeing it as metaphorical and representational. But I give you my testimony. I believe that Our Lord, Jesus Christ, is present in the most Holy Sacrifice of the Altar - body, blood, soul and divinity. I am 58 and grew up with this concept but can easily see how it could be viewed otherwise. Give yourself some time to absorb this concept.
 
Thank you all for your help.

The reason why people bow and genuflect makes much more sense to me. However, I have to say honestly that I struggle with the idea of the transubstantiation. The Protestants that I was around don’t believe that, and as a result, I wasn’t taught that. It seems to me that everything is viewed a metaphorical and representational. . Sigh. .

I’m still trying to get my head around it. .
It is very difficult to understand transubstantiaton and to accept and really believe that Our Risen Lord is truly present in the Eucharist. Reading John Chapter 6 (several times!) might help. Pay particular attention to the reaction of the the disciples who were offended by Jesus saying that he was “true food” and “true drink” and the reaction of the Apostles.
 
Genuflecting and bowing is like exercising; it helps keep you spiritually fit.

Of course, the first reason is to show proper respect towards the King of Kings, and for us Europeans it is derived from our secular custom of kneeling and bowing for secular royalty. It is natural to carry this over to show respect for our Heavenly King.

I understand Japanese Catholics bow deeply; this is in accord with the Japanese tradition of showing respect for secular rulers.

It keeps us spiritually fit by helping to remind us of the reverential attitude we must keep towards our Lord. Of course, we need to consciously keep this in mind or no amount of kneeling will have any benefit, but with the right mindset, little acts of reverence add up to greater reverence within the person, which in turn and if practiced by all, makes for a more reverent and truly Catholic laity.
 
This made me smile:
I believe that Our Lord, Jesus Christ, is present in the most Holy Sacrifice of the Altar - body, blood, soul and divinity. I am 58 and grew up with this concept but can easily see how it could be viewed otherwise. Give yourself some time to absorb this concept.
This encouraged me:
It is very difficult to understand transubstantiaton and to accept and really believe that Our Risen Lord is truly present in the Eucharist. Reading John Chapter 6 (several times!) might help. Pay particular attention to the reaction of the the disciples who were offended by Jesus saying that he was “true food” and “true drink” and the reaction of the Apostles.
Of course, the first reason is to show proper respect towards the King of Kings, and for us Europeans it is derived from our secular custom of kneeling and bowing for secular royalty. It is natural to carry this over to show respect for our Heavenly King.
Yes! I understand!

This is inspiring:
It keeps us spiritually fit by helping to remind us of the reverential attitude we must keep towards our Lord. Of course, we need to consciously keep this in mind or no amount of kneeling will have any benefit, but with the right mindset, little acts of reverence add up to greater reverence within the person, which in turn and if practiced by all, makes for a more reverent and truly Catholic laity.
I think I still need to understand that Christ is there. Really there. I think that once I grasp this–or, at least, come to peace with it–I will not have any problem with this practice.

Thank you for the links and your kind advice.

Time to do some reading. :o
 
You’re welcome; I use the approach I detailed above in my journey back to the Faith; I’m somewhat recently returned after falling away utterly from the entire Faith and I understand the difficulties one can have with such astonishing mysteries such as the fact of our Lord’s presence in the Blessed Sacrament.

I pray for your speedy conviction of this fact; your life will be enriched as never before! 🙂
 
I think I still need to understand that Christ is there. Really there. I think that once I grasp this–or, at least, come to peace with it–I will not have any problem with this practice.
One of my most favorite Biblical prayers: “Lord, I believe - help Thou my unbelief!”
 
Thank you all for your help.

The reason why people bow and genuflect makes much more sense to me. However, I have to say honestly that I struggle with the idea of the transubstantiation. The Protestants that I was around don’t believe that, and as a result, I wasn’t taught that. It seems to me that everything is viewed a metaphorical and representational. . Sigh. .

I’m still trying to get my head around it. .
the sad part is a lot of Catholics themselves have a lack of understanding of transubstantation

don’t worry too much. you are still learning and always pray so you may open yourself to this knowledge from God
 
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