Geocentric Universe?

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Thanks for explaining that to us. What is it you think? That we don’t know how absurd it is that this whole vast and glorious universe should rotate around lil’ old Earth? Why, the only thing I’ve ever heard more ridiculous than that, that I believe, is that the Creator of this whole vast and glorious universe can be found right here on Earth, at your local Catholic Church, in a little piece of bread.

“I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this was your good pleasure.” (Luke 10:21)
Jesus explicitly told us that that little piece of “bread” is his body, and it is a supernatural act. He said nothing about astrophysics, and there is no reason for us to believe that the movement of the stars and planets are supernatural rather than natural occurrences.

The universe must follow God’s divinely appointed physical laws, and he wants us to discover them for a reason. That reason is largely to aid our belief in him through miracles (supernatural phenomena), for only God can suspend his own laws.

Regarding your scripture quote, I think it is much more humbling that God did not make the universe revolve around us.
 
Jesus explicitly told us that that little piece of “bread” is his body, and it is a supernatural act.
Of course, the Holy Eucharist gives us eternal life; Geocentrism does not. But that’s not the point…
He said nothing about astrophysics, and there is no reason for us to believe that the movement of the stars and planets are supernatural rather than natural occurrences.
The universe must follow God’s divinely appointed physical laws, and he wants us to discover them for a reason. That reason is largely to aid our belief in him through miracles (supernatural phenomena), for only God can suspend his own laws.
You’re beating up a straw man - nobody is saying that Geocentrism is supernatural. That question was asked and answered earlier in the thread. But you guys come in here guns a blazing without even informing yourselves about the basic facts. Under the known laws of physics, it is possible for Earth to be the “immovable” center of mass of the universe - with all the universe’s gravitational forces at the point of equilibrium at the center of the Earth, fixing it in space. I’ve quoted some of the world’s preeminent scientists, who don’t believe the universe is geocentric, but have nevertheless admitted it’s possible.
Regarding your scripture quote, I think it is much more humbling that God did not make the universe revolve around us.
Atheists make that argument (w/out the God part) - it’s false humility. True humility, according to God, is having the faith of a little child in all that He has revealed to the world through His Church; no matter how hard it is to believe, or how much the world mocks and hates you for it. And Rome has spoken - the matter is settled.
 
Dude, do you seriously understand what would happen to our planet if the Sun started revolving around the Earth? Certainly, we would not be here. Life certainly would not have developed. Our planet would be completely out of whack, and certainly would not be like you observe now.

The Eucharist is completely different. The Eucharist cannot be explained by natural means. It is a supernatural thing. Gravity and astronomy are not supernatural phenomena. They can be explained by natural means. Completely different things.
 
If the sun revolves round the earth every 24 hours, explain one thing please. What causes the seasons?
 
They think the entire cosmos does, lmao. Now that IS absurd.
Hilarious isn’t it. And these same guys believe God created the universe OUT OF NOTHING, ha, ha, ha,. But more than that, they believe Jesus was born of a virgin birth and rose from the dead, yes, you read correctly , rose from the dead. And wait for it, these guys believe this God of theirs created a geocentric universe, the workings of which we humans with our evolving brains might never understand. I mean my God, I’m outa here before I go crazy reading this stuff.
 
Hilarious isn’t it. And these same guys believe God created the universe OUT OF NOTHING, ha, ha, ha,. But more than that, they believe Jesus was born of a virgin birth and rose from the dead, yes, you read correctly , rose from the dead. And wait for it, these guys believe this God of theirs created a geocentric universe, the workings of which we humans with our evolving brains might never understand. I mean my God, I’m outa here before I go crazy reading this stuff.
… and unicorns, they believe in unicorns too! And leprechauns…

Cassini, it does not follow that because some things are true, other things are too. If you were defending the belief that unicorns and leprechauns are real, would you list the articles of faith of our Church as you have? Because that is the same argument you just used.
 
Of course, the Holy Eucharist gives us eternal life; Geocentrism does not. But that’s not the point…

You’re beating up a straw man - nobody is saying that Geocentrism is supernatural. That question was asked and answered earlier in the thread. But you guys come in here guns a blazing without even informing yourselves about the basic facts. Under the known laws of physics, it is possible for Earth to be the “immovable” center of mass of the universe - with all the universe’s gravitational forces at the point of equilibrium at the center of the Earth, fixing it in space. I’ve quoted some of the world’s preeminent scientists, who don’t believe the universe is geocentric, but have nevertheless admitted it’s possible.

Atheists make that argument (w/out the God part) - it’s false humility. True humility, according to God, is having the faith of a little child in all that He has revealed to the world through His Church; no matter how hard it is to believe, or how much the world mocks and hates you for it. And Rome has spoken - the matter is settled.
Sorry I have not read all 30 pages of this thread. I was not aware that some people thought the Church infallibly holds to a geocentric universe, and quite frankly I find that hard to believe.

Rome has spoken and the matter is settled? Believing in a geocentric universe has NOTHING to do with my salvation, which is what the Church is for. I go to the Church for belief in things like the Immaculate conception, Original Sin, the Incarnation, and the Eucharist. I’m even willing to believe in monogenism, despite what scientific observation has told us so far, because the Church has infallibility in that regards.

I don’t need to have the heavens revolve around me to know that I’m valued above the rest of God’s creation and that he loves me, so much so that he would suffer and die for me.

I don’t mock or hate you for believing in geocentrism. I admire your fervor in your devotion to the Church. But I do think you’re sincerely misguided.
 
Do the 1919 Eclipse Photographs prove General Relativity? An important claim that needs a scientific and historical response…

There is a desperate situation: MS scientists are not able to show, with the most sophisticated technology, what is considered to be the basic principle of general relativity on which rely most of modern science, while this was claimed to be demonstrated by Eddington in 1919 using a simple four inch amateur size telescope.
see
itis.volta.alessandria.it/episteme/marm1.html
newtonphysics.on.ca/Eclipse/Eclipse.html
newtonphysics.on.ca/Einstein/Appendix2.html

Added to this is the fact that even if General Relativity comes close to the proper value of light deflection near the sun, still, other physicists claim that the same phenomenon can be explained just as easily from the Newtonian perspective, and thus leaves General Relativity without one of its most famous proofs.
As physicist Stan Gibilisco puts it:
The amount of change in the positions of stars near the sun was very close to the function predicted by the general theory of relativity.
Scientists who supported this theory considered the experiment a great triumph. But other evidence had to be found to provide more conclusive proof of the theory. Newton’s theory also would predict the same effect, and while the deviation in stellar positions predicted by Newton was only half the observed amount, and only half the amount predicted by general relativity, the error could be traced to a simple miscalculation by Newton concerning the intensity of the sun’s gravitational field. Some effect had to be observed that would agree with the general theory of relativity, but was entirely neglected by the physics of Newton.

Peter Rowlands says :
*In fact, all the standard experimental results which are used as tests of the general theory can be derived by using nothing more complicated than Newtonian gravity and special relativity. *
The history of the analysis of light deflection near the sun is by far one of the more confusing assortment of claims and counter-claims that have filled the landscape of theoretical physics. The story starts in 1801 with Johann von Soldner’s attempt at calculating the deflection of starlight near the sun.Based on the corpuscular theory of light, Soldner understood light to have mass, and mass is subject to Newton’s law of gravitation. But this is where the confusion starts.

From H. von Klüber’s 1960 paper:
Soldner (1801) investigated the behavior of a light-ray in a gravitational field of the classical Newtonian type, assuming the corpuscular theory. Unfortunately, his formula contains the erroneous factor 2. Correcting for this, and using modern constants, it can be shown that light coming from a star, and just grazing the limb of the sun before reaching an observer on the Earth, should be deviated by an angle of 0.87".
In his original 1801 paper, Soldner seems to defend the two-factor:
If one were to investigate by means of the given formula how much the moon would deviate a light ray when it goes by the moon and comes to earth, then one must, after substituting the corresponding magnitudes and taking the radius of the moon for unity, double the value found through the formula, because a light ray, which goes by the moon and comes to the earth describes two arms of a hyperbola.
Soldner’s reasoning is true even in General Relativity, since the angle of deflection should be the difference in the direction of the two asymptotes.
Hence, Soldner’s results could be interpreted such that 0".87 is half of the deflection caused by the sun, and thus a full deflection would amount to 1.74". Or if we use Soldner’s original figure of 0.84", it is about half of 1.70".

In 1911 Einstein published an article in Annalen der Physik based on an entirely different approach than Soldner’s, which included the idea that the speed of light changes near the sun due to varying strengths of gravity depending on where the light is passing.
Einstein obtains 0.83 seconds of arc, but, like Soldner’s, this value can be also adjusted to 0.87" based on a more accurate mass for the sun.
In remarking on this value, Einstein wrote to Erwin Freundlich in 1913:
That the idea of a bending of light rays was bound to emerge at the time of the emission theory is quite natural, as is the fact that the numerical result is exactly the same as that according to the equivalence hypothesis.
The first question that arises here is one of priority. Since Soldner was the first to calculate how light would bend around the sun, it requires a citation to Soldner’s work, but no such reference appears in the 1911 Annalen article. This is similar to the same failure Einstein demonstrated when he did not give any credit in his 1905 paper to the work of Henrick Lorentz or Henri Poincaré in the area of Relativity theory. Other scientists were well aware of Soldner’s work.

The second question concerns why Einstein’s prediction of 0.83", which is based on the equivalence” principle of Relativity theory, is identical to Soldner’s value. If Einstein had access to Soldner’s 0.84" when he wrote his 1911 paper (and not noticed Soldner’s two-factor error), it seems he would have done whatever he could to make an ‘equivalence’ calculation commensurate with 0.84".

AMDG
 
Do the 1919 Eclipse Photographs prove General Relativity? An important claim that needs a scientific and historical response…

In his 1915 paper, however, Einstein would change his equations so that it doubled the 0.83" value to 1.7". But by now, those who cared to study the issue probably knew that Soldner had only calculated half the deflection, and that a full deflection would equal 1.7".
The article was titled: ‘Einstein’s Theory of Space and Time’, and stated:
*The deflection of the star images means a bending of the ray of light as it passes near the sun, just as though the light had weight which caused it to drop towards the sun. But it is not the bending of light that threatens the downfall of Newton. On the contrary, were Newton alive he would be congratulating himself on his foresight. In his ‘Optiks’ we read:
‘Query 1. Do not bodies act upon light at a distance, and by their action bend its rays, and is not this action strongest at the least distance?’ *​

But Einstein’s sudden doubling of the light-bending angle did not escape the scrutiny of other physicists.
Arvid Reuterdahl remarked:
Dr. Robert Trumpler calls attention to the error in Soldner’s work.
Note that it is Soldner that is wrong despite the fact that Einstein’s 1911 formula is identical with that of Soldner. It is also curious that when Einstein tried again in 1916 to produce a formula it did not agree with his first effort, in fact, the 1916 formula gives a value twice as large as the one in 1911. Both are right according to the Einsteinians: two equals one!

Subsequent studies on this problem are confusing, at best.
  • In 1959, L. I. Schiff accounted for Einstein’s doubling of the angle by saying that the 1911 value was based only on time dilation whereas the 1916 value was based on both time dilation and length contraction. As such, he also claimed that the angle for the bending of light is derivable from the equivalence principle as opposed to the field equations from General Relativity.
  • In 1968, Sacks and Ball criticized the solution because Schiff used the equivalence postulate improperly by extending it to include the Lorentz ontraction. In the same year, Tangherlini derived the 1916 value by adding the 1911 Einstein deflection to the Soldner deflection.
  • In 1978, Comer and Lathrop also dismissed Schiff’s attempt by saying he incorrectly used the local equivalence principle, which they replaced with a combination of the equivalence principle and infinitely fast particles in a geodesic, requiring the full use of the field equations of General Relativity.
  • In 1984, M. Strandberg asserted that Special Relativity and the local equivalence principle are the only equations needed to get the 1916 value since the former has ‘unexploited’ properties that allow it to predict global effects that were once thought to be the sole domain of General Relativity.
  • In 1989, Tian and Li claimed to have found the rest mass of a photon and thus derive its speed and deflection in a gravitational field.
  • In 1966, P. Rowlands posited that Newtonian physics combined with Special Relativity could explain the light deflection and thus produce the 1916 value.
A less confusing attempt at accounting for the doubling of Einstein’s light-bending value is that offered by Misner, Thorne and Wheeler, at least from the perspective of General Relativity. These authors offer two distinct views of the situation:
    • the linear view that analyzes light bending from the sun to the outskirts of the solar system, and
    • the post-post-Newtonian (PPN) view from the sun to earth.
    The latter case is relevant to this discussion because it may explain the 2 factor. In this scenario, the authors show that the Earth observer intercepts the light deflection half-way through its course, the total course not being accomplished until well outside the gravitational potential, i.e., outside the solar system.
    But if that is the case, then the equation Einstein used in 1915 to arrive at 1.7", namely:
    a = 4kM/c^2r
    must be adjusted for an Earth observer, and the adjustment results in precisely half of the total deflection, that is, half of 1.7" is ~ 0.84". Of course, this would make the sighting on Earth of anything near the accepted value of 1.75" (including Eddington’s) either fictitious or the mere result of an already programmed doubling adjustment in the calculations.
    This is why von Klüber can say:
    “and using modern constants, it can be shown that light coming from a star, and just grazing the limb of the Sun before reaching an observer on the Earth, should be deviated by an angle of 0.87”.
    It is, perhaps, the same reason that Misner, Thorne and Wheeler can say that the maximum deflection of a light ray from a star that just grazes the sun, as seen by an observer on Earth, will be numerically equivalent to a half-deflection. So it appears that Soldner’s original value was correct, and that General Relativity confirms this by its own PPN analysis of the situation.

    The difference in the linear analysis and the PPN analysis of light bending near the sun brings up an interesting anomaly in the theory of General Relativity. As it stands, the theory uses an Earth-based observer for its PPN analysis, but by its own admission the velocity of light on Earth is less than c. According to General Relativity, the true value of c can only be demonstrated outside the solar system where there is no gravitational potential. Consequently, the varying positions through the year of the sun, the moon and the planets relative to the Earth should cause periodic fluctuations in the velocity of light on Earth. Although these fluctuations would be small, nevertheless, modern instruments boast of knowing the speed of light to at least eight significant figures, if not more. Yet the fact is, no one has shown evidence of these periodic fluctuations; no one seems concerned about not finding them; and the most important fact of all is that General Relativity does not even predict that there will be such fluctuations.

    AMDG
 
I’m even willing to believe in monogenism, despite what scientific observation has told us so far, because the Church has infallibility in that regards.
Actually, modern science points way more towards monogenism than polygenism. We are all believed to descend from a pair of people from Africa.

However, yeah, I agree. This whole thing is just a denial of reason, and I’m kind of embarrassed that Catholics want to hold onto this stuff when even the pope doesn’t.
 
Do the 1919 Eclipse Photographs prove General Relativity? An important claim that needs a scientific and historical response…

aulis.com/albert_einstein.htm
There can be no clearer definition of scientific fraud than what went on in the Tropics on May 29, 1919. What is particularly clear is that Eddington fudged the solar eclipse data to make the results conform to Einstein’s" work on general relativity. Poor (1930), Brown (1967), Clark (1984) and McCausland (2001) all address the issues surrounding this eclipse.

What makes the expeditions to Sobral and Principe so suspect is Eddington’s zealous support of Einstein, as can be seen in his statement,
*“By standing foremost in testing, and ultimately verifying the ‘enemy’ theory, our national observatory kept alive the finest traditions of science…” *(Clark, 1984).
In this instance, apparently Eddington was not familiar with the basic tenets of science. His job was to objectively collect data-not parrot Einstein’s theories, a nostrum modern physicists might well keep in mind.]

Further evidence for the fraud can be deduced from Eddington’s own statements and the introduction to them provided by Clark :
*“May 29 began with heavy rain, which stopped only about noon. Not until 1.30 pm when the eclipse had already begun did the party get its first glimpse of the sun:
'We had to carry out our programme of photographs on faith…”’ . *
Eddington reveals his true prejudice: he was willing to do anything to see that Einstein was proved right. But Eddington was not to be deterred:
*“It looked as though the effort, so far as the Principe expedition was concerned, might have been abortive”;
“We developed the photographs, two each night for six nights after the eclipse… The cloudy weather upset my plans and I had to treat the measures in a different way from what I intended; consequently I have not been able to make any preliminary announcement of the result” *
Actually, Eddington’s words speak volumes about the result. As soon as he found a shred of evidence that was consistent with “Einstein’s” general relativity theory, he immediately proclaimed it as proof of the theory. Is this science?

Where were the astronomers when Eddington presented his findings? Did anyone besides Eddington actually look at the photographic plates? Poor did, and he completely repudiated the findings of Eddington. This should have given pause to any ethical scientist.

Here are some quotes from Poor’s summary:
*“The mathematical formula, by which Einstein calculated his deflection of 1.75 arc-seconds for light rays passing the edge of the sun, is a well known and simple formula of physical optics”;
“Not a single one of the fundamental concepts of varying time, or warped or twisted space, of simultaneity, or of the relativity of motion is in any way involved in Einstein’s prediction of, or formulas for, the deflection of light”;
"The many and elaborate eclipse expeditions have, therefore, been given a fictitious importance. Their results can neither prove nor disprove the relativity theory… (Poor, 1930). *
From Brown (1967), we learn that Eddington could not wait to get out to the world community that Einstein’s theory was confirmed. What Eddington based this on was a premature assessment of the photographic plates. Initially, stars did “appear” to bend as they should, as required by Einstein, but then, according to Brown, the unexpected happened: several stars were then observed to bend in a direction transverse to the expected direction and still others to bend in a direction opposite to that predicted by relativity.

The absurdity of the data collected during the Eclipse of 1919 was demonstrated by Poor
(1930), who pointed out that 85% of the data were discarded from the South American eclipse due to “accidental error”, i.e., it contradicted Einstein’s scale constant. By a strange coincidence, the 15% of the “good” data were consistent with Einstein’s scale constant. Somehow, the stars that did not conform to Einstein’s theories conveniently got temporarily shelved-and the myth began.

So, based on a handful of ambiguous data points, 200 years of theory, experimentation and observation were cast aside to make room for Einstein. Yet the discredited experiment by Eddington is still quoted as gospel by Stephen Hawking (1999). It is difficult to comprehend how Hawking could comment that
*“The new theory of curved space-time was called general relativity. It was confirmed in spectacular fashion in 1919, when a British expedition to West Africa observed a slight shift in the position of stars near the sun during an eclipse. Their light, as Einstein had predicted, was bent as it passed the sun. Here was direct evidence that space and time were warped”. *
Does Hawking honestly believe that a handful of data points, massaged more thoroughly than a side of Kobe beef, constitutes the basis for overthrowing a paradigm that had survived over two centuries of acid scrutiny?
Was space and time being warped, or the interpretation of the flimsy data?

The real question, though, is: “Where was Einstein in all this?”
Surely, by the time he wrote his 1935 paper, he must have known of the work of Poor:
“The actual stellar displacements, if real, do not show the slightest resemblance to the predicted Einstein deflections: they do not agree in direction, in size, or the rate of decrease with distance from the sun”.
Why didn’t he go on the record and address a paper that directly contradicted his work? Why haven’t the followers of Einstein tried to set the record straight with respect to the bogus data of 1919?

AMDG
 
I don’t mock or hate you for believing in geocentrism. I admire your fervor in your devotion to the Church. But I do think you’re sincerely misguided.
And that’s a good sign that you’re not part of the world. But if you read some of the scientific evidence, particularly the major posting I made starting at #428, then you might change your mind about me being “sincerely misguided”.
 
I just found this thread, and it’s quite a shock to me that some people still believe in a geocentric universe. :ehh:

I mean, you might as well throw out all of cosmology and physics for the past several hundred years if you believe that. And completely ignore all other solar systems observed in the universe. And abandon all of our God-given faculties of rational observation and faith in divinely ordained physical laws.

Although, I guess you could arbitrarily choose any point in the solar system as the “center,” but it makes things so much more mathematically simple, astro-historically cohesive, and physcially sensible to place the sun at the center.
Hi Luke K, tell us about ‘all other solar systems observed in the universe’. How were they observed? Can you expalin to me how solar systems can be ‘observed’? I thought stars were just ‘points of light’ to human observation.
 
… and unicorns, they believe in unicorns too! And leprechauns…

Cassini, it does not follow that because some things are true, other things are too. If you were defending the belief that unicorns and leprechauns are real, would you list the articles of faith of our Church as you have? Because that is the same argument you just used.
Hi Ella. It was not I but St Robert Bellarmine who said that to disbelieve in a revealed geocentric universe is the same as disbelieving other matters of faith.

‘Nor may it be answered that this is not a matter of faith, for if it is not a matter of faith from the point of view of the subject matter (ex parte objecti), it is a matter of faith on the part of the ones who have spoken (ex parte dicentis). It would be just as heretical to deny that Abraham had two sons and Jacob twelve, as it would be to deny the virgin birth of Christ, for both are declared by the Holy Ghost through the mouths of the prophets and apostles.’ Letter to Foscarini 1615.

The point of my post is was to repeat what Pope Urban VIII said to that rogue Galileo, DO NOT RESTRICT GOD’S OMNIPOTENT FIAT TO HUMAN REASON.
 
Hilarious isn’t it. And these same guys believe God created the universe OUT OF NOTHING, ha, ha, ha,. But more than that, they believe Jesus was born of a virgin birth and rose from the dead, yes, you read correctly , rose from the dead. And wait for it, these guys believe this God of theirs created a geocentric universe, the workings of which we humans with our evolving brains might never understand. I mean my God, I’m outa here before I go crazy reading this stuff.
Believe me i think all that is nearly as unreasonable
 
I got another question, if everything orbits the earth (haha) then why are many other galaxies spirals?
 
Oh and why do the other plants have smaller 360 degree turns within there orbits of the earth?
 
Oh yeah and why is it when man was on the moon that they saw earth spinning and orbiting the sun :D:D:D:D?
 
Hereunder a summary of one of three sham-proofs for Einstein’s relativity with references.

(2) The Bending of Starlight Sham

Isaac Newton once proposed light could be made of particles and thus be subject to gravity. In his theory Einstein postulated that in his universe, gravitational fields would influence the passage of light to a greater extent than Newton predicted. Thus starlight, as it passed by the sun, should be bent as shown below.

‘Four years later, the scientific world awaited the verdict of an experiment which Einstein himself had suggested, the bending of starlight during a solar eclipse. The theory predicted that starlight passing just at the edge of the Sun would be displaced by 1.7 seconds of arc from its true position. It was the first real test of the theory.’ —J.P. McEvoy and O. Zarate: Introducing S. Hawking, Icon Books UK, p.30.

On Sunday 29 May 1919, a total eclipse allowed the test to be performed. Einstein himself tells us:

‘Undaunted by the war and by difficulties aroused by the war, [The Royal Society and the Royal Astronomical Society] sent several of Britain’s most celebrated astronomers (Eddington, Cottingham, Crommelin, Davidson) to Sobral (Brazil) and to the island of Principe (West Africa) to obtain photographs of the solar eclipse of 29 May. The reason why we must wait for a total eclipse is that at every other time the atmosphere is so strongly illuminated by the light from the sun that the stars situated near the sun’s disc are invisible.’ —Albert Einstein: Relativity: The special and General theory: Appendix III.

A camera was set up; steady as a rock. Photographs of the sky were taken just before the eclipse. Shortly afterwards the sun and moon converged, leaving all in darkness. A second series of photographs were taken. Then it was back to the laboratory for development and comparisons.

According to the theory, from earth, in the heliocentric model above,
star S will shift its position relative to other stars
as its light curves as it passes the sun.

There were 43 photographic plates in all; the Sobral team took 27 and the Principe team took 16. Fifteen of these, however, were discarded because they were clouded, no use for their purposes.
First the propaganda:

‘Eddington found that light rays which had left the surface of stars thousands of years ago and had been bent by the curved space near the Sun only eight minutes previously, passed through the lens and exposed the photograph plates just where Einstein said they would. One of the most remarkable experiments in scientific history had been completed.
The results of the eclipse expedition were presented by the Astronomer Royal at a meeting of the Royal Society on 6th November 1919 [announcing the observers had confirmed Einstein’s theory], and Einstein became a national hero overnight. Headlines in the New York Times suggested that a new Universe had been discovered…and this time the newspaper hype was not exaggerated. A world weary from war embraced the quiet and eccentric scientist, sitting in his study in Berlin with a pencil and pad, who had figured out the great plan of the Almighty for the entire Universe. —J.P. McEvoy and O. Zarate, op. cit., pp.43-44

So says the book ‘Introducing Stephen Hawking’, filling yet another generation full of bunk. Watching their tails however we find the following tucked into the corner of the next page: ‘Many critics said the results were inconclusive, that the possibility of error in the star measurements was too great, so the scepticism continued’ (p.45). But note ‘Einstein became a national hero’ anyway, and the New York Times did say ‘that a new Universe had been discovered’, and the world did fall for their scam.
But if the theory is true, then all the stars positioned near the sun should have been displaced towards the sun. They were not. The stars in fact were displaced in the photographs in every conceivable direction, this way, that way, and every which way, but a long way from showing Einstein’s GTR to be true.

‘To make the observations come out to support Einstein, Eddington and the others took the Sobral 4-inch results as the main findings and used the two Principe plates as supporting evidence while ignoring the 18 plates taken by the Sobral astrographic… On 6th Nov. 1919, Sir Joseph Thomson, the President of the Royal Society, chaired a meeting at which he remarked: “It is difficult for the audience to weigh fully the meaning of the figures that have been put before us, but the Astronomer Royal and Professor Eddington have studied the material carefully, and they regard the evidence as decisively in favour of the larger value for the displacement.” ’---- Harry Collins and Trevor Pinch: The Golem, Cambridge University Press, 1993 quoting J. Earman, and C. Glymour, ‘Relativity and Eclipses: The British Eclipse Expedition of 1919 and their Predecessors’, Historical Studies in the Physical Sciences, 11 (1), 49-85.

Yes, they published the damn findings anyway and asserted that their mathematics showed they did prove Relativity. The Royal Society was in full flow now, doing what the Masons intended for it to do, dictate what ‘science’ the world was to believe, and they would continue to do so. ‘The results of the measurements confirmed the theory in a thoroughly satisfactory manner’, wrote Einstein in his paper already quoted.

Continued next post.
 
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