Oh brother, I knew there had to be one person who would say no oven locks.
children are actual humans and make mistakes… So are adults/parents, and can forget to “lock” the oven door. The point I was trying to make is:
This is an utterly silly argument, Jay. I don’t think Tom is telling anyone to use gadgets *rather *than discipline, but as a *supplement *to discipline.
Probably because cars are much taller than they used to be and tires higher. You can check before leaving but kids are fast and one can run out to the rear of the vehicle at the last minute. Since toddlers are barely taller than some tires, you can’t see them in the mirrors or out the rear window, so you back up assuming no one’s there, because no one was there 45 seconds ago when you first checked.
Why not just teach them to stay away with discipline?
After all, our grandparents never had the luxury of plug protectors and our parents survived. It’s control of the situation again. A little kid on the opposite end of the house playing in their room is out of sight. Having little kids playing in the kitchen is being ignorant.
As is a child who runs from the backyard to the front at the last minute to say goodbye to daddy and daddy backs out over him. There is nothing wrong with being too cautious for those parents who wish to use every resource available to them.
Who said kids were being allowed to play in the kitchen?
)Have you ever seen burns on a child as a result of an oven burn? Until you do, you have no business trying to dissaude people from using oven locks. I am not trying to insult you in any way, it is just beyond my patience to read your garbage about parents teaching, when we are discussing accidents that can come upon anyone at any time.
Thank you for this response. It seems some people want to argue for the sake of arguing. How oven locks can do anything but help is beyond me, and why anyone would argue against is something I just cannot understand. A $5 piece of hardware can save a child from severe burns, and lifelong scars…FIVE DOLLARS!As is a child who runs from the backyard to the front at the last minute to say goodbye to daddy and daddy backs out over him. There is nothing wrong with being too cautious for those parents who wish to use every resource available to them.
Who said kids were being allowed to play in the kitchen?
My son, for instance, was tired and grumpy and walked in on me cooking one day. He wanted me to hold him, and to get up to me he grabbed the first thing he saw that would help give him a lift: The oven door. It swung right open, knocked him to the ground and almost smacked him right in the face. It happened so fast I couldn’t have stopped it anyway. And the same thing happened again when Tom had written this thread. (You’d think he’d have learned from the first time!
And even IF kids are allowed to play in the kitchen (I know plenty a parent who lets their toddlers bang on tupperware and pots and pans while they cook) it is certainly not being ignorant. (I let my kids play in the bathroom while I shower, so I can keep an eye one them. For that reason, I have both a toilet lid lock and a cabinet lock to keep them from the cleansers. Am I ignorant too?)
I just think it’s silly to be debating a thread than helps enhance child safety, while assuming parents who use these things let their kids run wild and undisciplined.
No, pridefully fighting against a $5 oevn lock is ignortant, especially since you can choose to ignore this thread and let parents make their own choices about their kids saftey.
The natural consequences of severely burned children? Is that really what you are advocating?
Stop this, your posts are deeply offensive to me. I am not advocating irrresponsible parenting, I am not defending lazy parenting, I am not advocating babysitters and daycares doing lousy jobs of caring for children. I am merely saying that good parenting, coupled with the use of things like oven locks, can save children horrific pain and lifelong scars. I can gaurantee you there are many thousands of parents (probably millions) who had wished they had a safety gadget to help prevent their child from being harmed. Seat belts are a result of tried and true tests and facts from the field, they work to save lives. Likewise, good parenting, coupled with safety devices can save lives and help avert disaster.
I have agreed all along that devices do not replace responsible parenting, yet together it can really cut down on injuries.