Getting a TLM started

[OraLabora]

Well, that’s an idea to keep it under the radar of any lat(name removed by moderator)hobes out there.

But it seems just as likely to keep it under the radar of those who might be interested as well.

My objection to the term “Traditional Latin Mass” is that it obscures the fact that tradition, Latin and Gregorian chant are also all appropriate for the Ordinary Form Mass, and it makes it harder for those of us who want the OF Mass celebrated as Sacrosanctum Concilium intended, to get an OF Mass in Latin with Gregorian chant.

Fortunately I live near an abbey that does so.

 

[ProVobis]

My objection to the term “Traditional Latin Mass” is that it obscures the fact that tradition, Latin and Gregorian chant are also all appropriate for the Ordinary Form Mass, and it makes it harder for those of us who want the OF Mass celebrated as Sacrosanctum Concilium intended, to get an OF Mass in Latin with Gregorian chant.

Fortunately I live near an abbey that does so.

Ora, point taken, but I believe there was a push by the Vatican to install Jubilate Deo into all parishes before St. John Paul II restored the 1962 Missal. This would have provided the Latin and chant as SC envisioned, at least on paper. As we know, JD was a tough sell, if one wants to call it that, outside of monasteries and such.

 

[Kielbasi]

My objection to the term “Traditional Latin Mass” is that it obscures the fact that tradition, Latin and Gregorian chant are also all appropriate for the Ordinary Form Mass, and it makes it harder for those of us who want the OF Mass celebrated as Sacrosanctum Concilium intended, to get an OF Mass in Latin with Gregorian chant…

I understand your point.

But the term “Traditional Latin Mass” is effective at communicating to the people exactly what’s going on.

Other terminology may be more accurate, but if the people aren’t in tune with the different terminology, the language fails as it really doesn’t effective communicate the information. A line in the bulletin about an extraordinary mass at 10 a.m. is likely just to confuse the people that you are trying to inform. They might not know it is in Latin or that its the pre-V2 rite and either be disappointed when they attend or miss out altogether if that’s what they wanted to attend.

On a similar point about language, a dentist I was consulting ranted against the word “filling”, they aren’t a road crew filling pot holes, they are performing dental restorations. Point again taken, but the good doctor should (and does) recognize its about communication.

 

[Upgrade25]

This would definitely be an additional Mass, it would not replace an existing Mass. The reason some people would be annoyed at it is there are a few quite vocal people at my parish who dislike anything traditional.

Isn’t the Ordiniariate Mass more traditional than the OF anyways? Why would anyone object?

 

[ProVobis]

Isn’t the Ordiniariate Mass more traditional than the OF anyways? Why would anyone object?

Because it’s unfamiliar to them, outside of their comfort zone, would be my guess.

 

[Brendan_64]

Additional. Why someone cares about that which they won’t be attending, mystery to me.

People come in all forms eh?

I think some people view anything Latin (and particularly the ‘Old Mass’) as a throwback to ‘the past’ and a threat to the direction they believe the liturgy ought to be ‘moving on’ towards.

 

[peter26]

Isn’t the Ordiniariate Mass more traditional than the OF anyways? Why would anyone object?

It would not be too far off the mark to call the Ordinariate Use Mass a TLM in (Elizabethan) English. TBH, there are several members of our local Ordinariate group who prefer the Novus Ordo anyway.

 

[ProVobis]

It would not be too far off the mark to call the Ordinariate Use Mass a TLM in (Elizabethan) English. TBH, there are several members of our local Ordinariate group who prefer the Novus Ordo anyway.

I think it’s notable that it isn’t Latin necessarily that drives people away from the older rites.

 

[Entwhistler]

I think it’s notable that it isn’t Latin necessarily that drives people away from the older rites.

Right. To be fair, there are Latin Mass goers who are less than welcoming to newcomers. Kind of a holier-than-thou attitude. Thankfully, that is fading quickly. The younger generation finding out about the Latin Mass also helps.