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JamalChristophr
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Does she have any interest in going to mass with you at least once?
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angell1
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you are responding to all of this in a very mature way, God bless you for that.Again, Thank you all for your (name removed by moderator)ut. If you asked me 5 months ago if, as a practicing Catholic man, I would ever consider dating a Mormon woman, I would have said “probably not”. If I knew 5 months ago what I know now about the Mormon faith and you asked the question I think I would say “definitely not”. We are almost 4 weeks in to this relationship. She is already saying things like “I think God brought you to me”. I had been praying for guidance and direction. Just praying that I know what God’s will for me is as a single older man. Single, married, the priesthood? Then this prayerful woman falls into my life out of nowhere. She says she already knows how she feels about me. She has already told me that she loves me which was a bit off putting after only 4 weeks of dating. She just says that she knows I am the man for her. Part of me thinks that this is the woman God has put in my life and the other thinks that this is the last woman I should be getting involved with all things considered (I work directly with her, she’s Mormon, she’s already telling me she loves me and that I am a better man than any other man she has ever been with). I think it may be time to slow things down and maybe even step away from this relationship for a time. Just difficult now because we still work together every day at least for the next couple months. And part of me thinks she sees me so much different than any other man she has ever been with because I have spent the last 10+ years of my life learning about my Catholic faith and trying to live it. Maybe she is the first one that is recognizing the man I am because of this. And that makes her attractive on a different level than any other woman I’ve been with BEFORE I got back to practicing my faith.
based on what you described in this last post, I think I would tend to agree, that this is moving way too fast and needs to slow down.
I’m saying a prayer for you
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iepuras
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I do agree with angell1 that you need to slow things down. Mormons typically have short courtships and get married rather quickly. It is fairly common for Mormons to meet, start dating, get engaged 3 months later and get married 3 months after that. I even know Mormon couples who got engaged after knowing each other 2 weeks. Dating for 1 year prior to engagement is a long time for Mormons. Don’t let her push you to marriage too quickly.Again, Thank you all for your (name removed by moderator)ut. If you asked me 5 months ago if, as a practicing Catholic man, I would ever consider dating a Mormon woman, I would have said “probably not”. If I knew 5 months ago what I know now about the Mormon faith and you asked the question I think I would say “definitely not”. We are almost 4 weeks in to this relationship. She is already saying things like “I think God brought you to me”. I had been praying for guidance and direction. Just praying that I know what God’s will for me is as a single older man. Single, married, the priesthood? Then this prayerful woman falls into my life out of nowhere. She says she already knows how she feels about me. She has already told me that she loves me which was a bit off putting after only 4 weeks of dating. She just says that she knows I am the man for her. Part of me thinks that this is the woman God has put in my life and the other thinks that this is the last woman I should be getting involved with all things considered (I work directly with her, she’s Mormon, she’s already telling me she loves me and that I am a better man than any other man she has ever been with). I think it may be time to slow things down and maybe even step away from this relationship for a time. Just difficult now because we still work together every day at least for the next couple months. And part of me thinks she sees me so much different than any other man she has ever been with because I have spent the last 10+ years of my life learning about my Catholic faith and trying to live it. Maybe she is the first one that is recognizing the man I am because of this. And that makes her attractive on a different level than any other woman I’ve been with BEFORE I got back to practicing my faith.
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SpeSalvi
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I was LDS when I married my Catholic Husband, and while miracles DO happen, the burden of the difference of faiths was a LOT.
From someone that has been there, done that, I would advise against pursuing the relationship unless she is willing to truly look into Catholicism. Her being devoutly LDS will eventually drive ya’ll apart and you will have a marriage that will never be “good enough” in her eyes. In the eyes of the LDS church, your marriage will not have the necessary permanence to allow either of you to obtain the highest level of heaven and that will trouble her more and more as your marriage progresses.
I have seen many part-member families like that and the husband is not seen as the spiritual authority in the home, even if you are a devout Catholic. It emasculates the husband and is a huge blow to the respect, love, and partnership that a good marriage needs.
From someone that has been there, done that, I would advise against pursuing the relationship unless she is willing to truly look into Catholicism. Her being devoutly LDS will eventually drive ya’ll apart and you will have a marriage that will never be “good enough” in her eyes. In the eyes of the LDS church, your marriage will not have the necessary permanence to allow either of you to obtain the highest level of heaven and that will trouble her more and more as your marriage progresses.
I have seen many part-member families like that and the husband is not seen as the spiritual authority in the home, even if you are a devout Catholic. It emasculates the husband and is a huge blow to the respect, love, and partnership that a good marriage needs.
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tafan
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jstnwalt, what are the words used in the Mormon Baptismal Rite?I am Mormon,
It seems that you have all heard about Mormons through a bunch of Mormon hating forums or through ex-Mormons who didn’t have a strong understanding of the doctrine to begin with. First thing to clarify, we ARE Christians, we believe in Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost. Yes, it is true that our beliefs don’t align perfectly with your mold, but it works out GREAT for me.
Now, to the issue at hand. It is true that most Mormon men and women would like a temple marriage. So if she tries to get you to take an interest in her beliefs, to understand it, and to try to apply them then its only proper. I assume you would want her to do the same for you. The key is to just be sincere. I bet that you will find more in common and hospitable for a loving relationship then anything that would deter. The biggest life application about being Mormon is just to do your very very best, to help as many people as possible, and to put God before everything else. In those few things I am sure you can agree.
Now you are an older gentleman, and this wonderful beautiful lady has fallen into your midst and everything is going great, but you are here trying to find something devious and evil about her. Why don’t you just find out what kind of person she is for yourself, no one here can tell you who exactly this lady is and what kind of person she is. As for her being Mormon, you have nothing to fear if she respects you after you having taken a sincere effort in trying to understand her religion, then its not likely she will wake up every morning asking if your ready to be baptized. Go to church with her a few times, get an idea of who Mormons are and what they believe for yourself away from all these forums, the internet can be great, but when its one religion talking about another on these forums its almost always negative, inaccurate, and very hateful.
You both are religious, you both believe in God, and you both seek to do good. As for a relationship, there is nothing more to question on this matter.
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ThyKingdomCome
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While I believe it is possible for people to fall in love very quickly, it’s certainly not common to truly LOVE a person after just a few weeks, and this quick of a statement would concern me too. Maybe she has some issues that cause her to attach too quickly. If that’s not true, and if this really is meant to be, and from God, it won’t be necessary to rush, so for sure tread lightly.She has already told me that she loves me which was a bit off putting after only 4 weeks of dating.
Totally believable that God has a plan for the two of you. But perhaps as friends instead. In my opinion, it is best to avoid dating people of different faiths altogether, but it is a great idea to befriend people of other faiths, and in particular, if they are interested in Catholicism, to help them learn more about it. Now that you already have started dating, I don’t know if you and she are “in too deep” to back off and have more of a friendship right now, but I think it is worth considering. Have you been totally honest with her about the importance of your faith, and in particular how that affects marriage and family life? Someone who is open to God’s Plan should respect your need to pull back.We are almost 4 weeks in to this relationship. She is already saying things like “I think God brought you to me”.
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iepuras
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Mormons baptize in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost, but when they use these names, they mean something entirely different than what we do as Christians. They believe in the Trinity. Among other things, the believe that the Father has a physical body of flesh and bone and that He is the literal father of our spirits (there is also a heavenly mother involved). Mormon baptism is not recognized by the Catholic Church as a valid Christian baptism.jstnwalt, what are the words used in the Mormon Baptismal Rite?
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1ke
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The Vatican has determined that Mormon baptism is invalid. Mormons are not Christian, and lack orthodox belief in the Trinity. Trinitarian baptism makes one a member of the a Christia communion.jstnwalt, what are the words used in the Mormon Baptismal Rite?
doctrinafidei.va/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20010605_battesimo_mormoni_en.html
But it is important to note that the OP’s friend is indeed validly baptized, a Catholic.
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1ke
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This is a reason to pull the emergency brake. Sounds like she may have a lot of things from her family of origin to resolve, and latching on to an older man who can fill a number of roles and give stability to her life is not the way to do that. It will only temporarily make those insecurities and unresolved issues recede.We are almost 4 weeks in to this relationship. She is already saying things like “I think God brought you to me”. I had been praying for guidance and direction. She says she already knows how she feels about me. She has already told me that she loves me which was a bit off putting after only 4 weeks of dating. She just says that she knows I am the man for her.
God doesn’t work that way, typically. We have free will. We choose. We like to rationalize our decisions, or shift responsibilty for them, by saying God did this or that… We want to ignore our instincts and what is staring us in the face (dysfunctional childhood, mixed up religion, moving way too fast, and involvement with a younger woman and coworker) by assigning cosmic significance to it (…“but all these warnings MUST be wrong, I got an"sign”). Consider that all the warnings ARE the sign.Part of me thinks that this is the woman God has put in my life and the other thinks that this is the last woman I should be getting involved with all things considered
Ding ding ding… We have a real sign this isn’t the right time or woman to get into a relationship with.(I work directly with her, she’s Mormon, she’s already telling me she loves me and that I am a better man than any other man she has ever been with).
You are now a bit older and wiser for the experience. It will be difficult, I’m sure, but it is best to put some space between you and religion isn’t even the top reason.I think it may be time to slow things down and maybe even step away from this relationship for a time. Just difficult now because we still work together every day at least for the next couple months. And part of me thinks she sees me so much different than any other man she has ever been with because I have spent the last 10+ years of my life learning about my Catholic faith and trying to live it. Maybe she is the first one that is recognizing the man I am because of this. And that makes her attractive on a different level than any other woman I’ve been with BEFORE I got back to practicing my faith.
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stmk
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Again, thanks for all the (name removed by moderator)ut. Just to clarify, she is only 3 years younger than I am. It seems some were under the impression that she’s much younger than me. Any additional (name removed by moderator)ut is greatly appreciated.
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1ke
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I did get that impression. But, even knowing she is only 3 years younger, it doesn’t really change my advice or thoughts on the matter.Again, thanks for all the (name removed by moderator)ut. Just to clarify, she is only 3 years younger than I am. It seems some were under the impression that she’s much younger than me. Any additional (name removed by moderator)ut is greatly appreciated.
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