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Survive, I’m not going to convince you of anything, so go on defiantly hurting others. I’ll act my way, you act yours. I respect facts and science, but you’re carrying it to a ridiculous degree and making what is basically an irrelevant argument in order to support your position.
 
When I read so much of the stubborn ignorance in many (but certainly not all) of these threads, I just want to disown anything having to do with Chrisitianity as something of a relic of the dark ages since many of the minds here are very dark. How many posting with absolute certainty on gender are scientists? How many are geneticists? How many are even doctors? There was a time when we DID believe that men had one less rib than woman. I see that same ignorant mentality here. It must be something when someone who is not a transexual, knows nothing about it, yet can post with such certainty on what it is!!! It makes me angry and sick…and you do nothing to further Chrisitianity for people who suffer from this condition and strive to remain Catholic. I’m on the verge of leaving because of this. And I’m sick to death of the “God doesn’t make mistakes” argument. Please!!! That one is tired and worn out. God doens’t make mistakes? What about other deformities that we have doctors for to surgically correct? Maybe we should stop medically intervening. What about an anoncephalic child…one who is born without a brain? I’ve seen them in the course of my work. God doesn’t make mistakes, eh??? What was the purpose of such a birth? The agony of having carried a child and having dreams and hopes for it, etc. What does God have to do with it at all? I don’t think God directly causes any of these things, but I don’t believe He stops them either. But to use the argument “God doesn’t make mistakes” is patently absurd and does not hold any water with me. - TShawn:mad:
 
As a scientist, I respect facts too. Let’s get practical: If a man wants to be referred to as a woman, and you do not oblige, you will hurt them. Why let pronouns harm another person?
Another way to look at it, is why let themself be hurt by a pronoun? I mean, if it’s such a minor thing and all.
 
Another way to look at it, is why let themself be hurt by a pronoun? I mean, if it’s such a minor thing and all.
Another way to look at it ism why be rude? why throw away your manners just to be correct?
 
Another way to look at it ism why be rude? why throw away your manners just to be correct?
I don’t know, it seems rather rude for somebody to expect people to call them a sex other than what they are. Let them conjure up their own fantasies, but don’t expect the entire population to take them up on it.
 
I don’t know, it seems rather rude for somebody to expect people to call them a sex other than what they are. Let them conjure up their own fantasies, but don’t expect the entire population to take them up on it.
My mother ( who is very anti transgender by the way) taught us Pawloski kids to call people what they want or ask to be called. That is a time old trandition of manners. Its simple and easy. You obviously are not on the tg side of things. So I’m not going to convince you of much. Just think of it as using manners something that used to be universal in our culture, and are just about all but gone. Us transgendered are not going away.
 
My mother ( who is very anti transgender by the way) taught us Pawloski kids to call people what they want or ask to be called. That is a time old trandition of manners. Its simple and easy. You obviously are not on the tg side of things. So I’m not going to convince you of much. Just think of it as using manners something that used to be universal in our culture, and are just about all but gone. Us transgendered are not going away.
If my mother were to have said the exact same thing, someone’s gender would have had absolutely nothing to do with that. She would had been talking about proper names, as gender should be quite apparent. So tg won’t go away, what else is new?
 
If my mother were to have said the exact same thing, someone’s gender would have had absolutely nothing to do with that. She would had been talking about proper names, as gender should be quite apparent. So tg won’t go away, what else is new?
No it’s you address someone as they would like to be addressed. Other examples is one never calls my mother “Mrs” , you call some of my siblings by their middle names, etc.Don’t call yourself oldfashioned if you don’t agree because you are not in favor of oldfashioned manners.
 
No it’s you address someone as they would like to be addressed. Other examples is one never calls my mother “Mrs” , you call some of my siblings by their middle names, etc.Don’t call yourself oldfashioned if you don’t agree because you are not in favor of oldfashioned manners.
Old-fashioned manners had absolutely nothing to do with calling people a gender which they apparently are not. It’s also old-fashioned manners, not that I said I was old-fashioned in the first place, to not help people along in deceiving themselves or anybody else. Honesty is the best policy, you know, that old adage. If somebody wants to be called a name, other than what their name is, well fine, I guess, but that’s not quite the same as expecting people to call us by a sex than apparently we are not.

A name is a name, a sex is a sex. Two different things. Nobody I know wants to be called what their sex is, or in your case, is not. IOW, you are not wishing to be “called” man or woman as “your name” but when referring to your alleged non-gender. So, should we call you woman, instead of aspawloski4th? Fine with me, but you better change your logonid being fair and all.
 
I was born the the physical and psychological characteristics of a billionaire but until science comes up with a drug to make me a billionaire and I can afford the necessary operations to be a billionaire would everyone please just treat me like one!

I know that I was meant to be a billionaire, I feel as if I was born that way and knew that I could be happy until I was one.

It will hurt my personal feelings, if you don’t treat me like a billionaire!👍

I hope that helps answer this friends lack of understanding about “being born that way”.

That was to much fun!😃
 
I was born the the physical and psychological characteristics of a billionaire but until science comes up with a drug to make me a billionaire and I can afford the necessary operations to be a billionaire would everyone please just treat me like one!

I know that I was meant to be a billionaire, I feel as if I was born that way and knew that I could be happy until I was one.

It will hurt my personal feelings, if you don’t treat me like a billionaire!👍

I hope that helps answer this friends lack of understanding about “being born that way”.

That was to much fun!😃
Should we call you Mr. Clampett?
 
Old-fashioned manners had absolutely nothing to do with calling people a gender which they apparently are not. It’s also old-fashioned manners, not that I said I was old-fashioned in the first place, to not help people along in deceiving themselves or anybody else. Honesty is the best policy, you know, that old adage. If somebody wants to be called a name, other than what their name is, well fine, I guess, but that’s not quite the same as expecting people to call us by a sex than apparently we are not.

A name is a name, a sex is a sex. Two different things. Nobody I know wants to be called what their sex is, or in your case, is not. IOW, you are not wishing to be “called” man or woman as “your name” but when referring to your alleged non-gender. So, should we call you woman, instead of aspawloski4th? Fine with me, but you better change your logonid being fair and all.
First of all I’m speaking with referencee to others. Second CAF doesn’t allow name ID changes or I’d do it quicker than a heartbeat. Also no they are not 2 different things. What somebody wants to be called it what they want to be called plain and simple.
 
First of all I’m speaking with referencee to others. Second CAF doesn’t allow name ID changes or I’d do it quicker than a heartbeat. Also no they are not 2 different things. What somebody wants to be called it what they want to be called plain and simple.
Is it possible to end this account and start a new one?
 
Is it possible to end this account and start a new one?
I was thinking of doing that. But theres lots of other things Id have to redo, mainly with friends I have made. With a lack of time on the net I try to make the most of what I have. But I do see your point.
 
Should we call you Mr. Clampett?
The underlining idea is that you can remove the word “billionaire” and insert anything you wish… uhmpa lumpa, bearded lady, pladapus, dodo bird… what ever and the underlying reason or logic will still never make sense. Making a change of this nature is still to fulfill some narsistic fantascy about what you think you need in life to be happy with your life. A flawed premesis. The happiness comes from within, not outside to inward.

Drugs and procedures aren’t going to change much, no matter how much you want them too.

try it, It highlights the absurdity of the reasoning pretty well. Think of something…
I was born the the physical and psychological characteristics of a ____________ but until science comes up with a drug to make me a___________ and I can afford the necessary operations to be a ___________ would everyone please just treat me like one!

I know that I was meant to be a ____________, I feel as if I was born that way and knew that I could be happy until I was one.

It will hurt my personal feelings, if you don’t treat me like a ___________!
 
The underlining idea is that you can remove the word “billionaire” and insert anything you wish… uhmpa lumpa, bearded lady, pladapus, dodo bird… what ever and the underlying reason or logic will still never make sense. Making a change of this nature is still to fulfill some narsistic fantascy about what you think you need in life to be happy with your life. A flawed premesis. The happiness comes from within, not outside to inward.

Drugs and procedures aren’t going to change much, no matter how much you want them too.

try it, It highlights the absurdity of the reasoning pretty well. Think of something…
Yes, I understand your point as I forgot that Mr. Clampett was a mere pauper. Why he wasn’t a billionaire at all.😉
 
Atitudes shown in the last 2 posts of this thread before mine are the reason that I just go to Mass for my Sunday obligation of worship and generally don’t associate with others around me much anymore. That type of attitude I’m sick and tired of to no end. 🤷
 
Atitudes shown in the last 2 posts of this thread before mine are the reason that I just go to Mass for my Sunday obligation of worship and generally don’t associate with others around me much anymore. That type of attitude I’m sick and tired of to no end. 🤷
Do you have absolute truth or could some of your opinions be just that, some of your opinions?
 
Do you have absolute truth or could some of your opinions be just that, some of your opinions?
I hope you are not eluding to any idea that you have the absolute truth on gender. If you are that is extremely arrogant.
 
I hope you are not eluding to any idea that you have the absolute truth on gender. If you are that is extremely arrogant.
slow down for a second…

No I was pointing out the “perceived arrogance” in your previous statement. You don’t interact with people with beliefs like mine. People like me are disregarded by you and are of little value to you because we hold beliefs that are different than your, right? See the point being made?

Are your opinions really the only ones that matter in a discussion? Why are you discounting mine?

You then go on to suggest that people like me somehow contribute to you not getting anything out of Mass besides meeting your obligation. That responsible is yours my friend no matter what I say or think.
 
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