"Girls should wear modest clothing"

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I don’t agree girls should wear modest clothing, because if they have a beautiful body they should show it to everybody as even it is an expression of the beauty of God.
Wearing miniskirts or tops or close-fitting trousers is a way to underline a beauty that helps anybody to be happier and to relax.
As somebody told, “Omnia munda mundis”: if a guy looks a girl and limits himself to admire her body he doesn’t commit any sin and it must he to control himself.Bye
 
piccolino said:
I don’t agree girls should wear modest clothing, because if they have a beautiful body they should show it to everybody as even it is an expression of the beauty of God.
Wearing miniskirts or tops or close-fitting trousers is a way to underline a beauty that helps anybody to be happier and to relax.
As somebody told, “Omnia munda mundis”: if a guy looks a girl and limits himself to admire her body he doesn’t commit any sin and it must he to control himself.Bye
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In a non-fallen world that might be good advice, but it’s simply too risky here. Sin is real, and the devil has taken great advantage of this sin to turn many people from God. Women (and men) should dress modestly. However if they fail in doing such (which could cause others to skin), it is up to others to still be holy. One path is casting ones eyes to the ground. The other path, only for those who have complete continence, is to look, admire the beauty exposed, and pray that the soul in question learns the gift of modest dress.
 
IMHO modesty is not necessary in general, because feminine and masculine beauty are they themselves precious even if temporary gifts of God.
 
piccolino said:
I don’t agree girls should wear modest clothing, because if they have a beautiful body they should show it to everybody as even it is an expression of the beauty of God.
Wearing miniskirts or tops or close-fitting trousers is a way to underline a beauty that helps anybody to be happier and to relax.
As somebody told, “Omnia munda mundis”: if a guy looks a girl and limits himself to admire her body he doesn’t commit any sin and it must he to control himself.Bye
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Darlin, the problem with that, is girls who wear skimpy tops and short shorts who DON’T look good in them, will wear them because they “think” they have a good body. I am no prude, but shorts and skimpy tops are not for Church.

Having been overweight all my life, I am disgusted to see teenage girls with flab hanging out of a mid-drift top or over the top of jeans. For teenage girls it’s not about being happy and relaxed, it’s about getting “attention” from boys.
 
And there is no problem in desiring the attention of boys.
Obviously if you were those dresses you must have a beautiful body to show, otherwise it’s senseless.
 
piccolino said:
And there is no problem in desiring the attention of boys.
Obviously if you were those dresses you must have a beautiful body to show, otherwise it’s senseless.
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ALL bodies are beautiful! ALL bodies are holy to the Lord. Not just those whom society deems as beautiful. However, that does NOT mean that you should go around exposing that which is holy to the Lord to every single person on the planet. Only those who are meant to see are supposed to be exposed to it. For women this would be their husbands. Even doctors don’t really get to see that much of a woman. After all when we go in for the yearly physical our whole body is covered by a sheet. Saying that we should expose our body to every man on the planet is like saying we should allow every person on the planet to receive the Eucharist. It doesn’t work that way.

Secondly, the attention that women get from wearing those tight provocative clothes is not the sort of attention a Christian lady should be seeking. Christian women should be trying emulate the Blessed Mother. As sister’s in Christ we are called to not cause our brothers to stumble. If a lady took your advice she would be causing a great number of her brother’s in Christ to stumble. That would not be pleasing to Him.

I’m not saying that men don’t need to control themselves. They most certainly do but the ladies also have a responsibility in this. It’s a two way street. Don’t forget that in the Garden of Eden Adam and Eve started out naked until they sinned. After they sinned they clothed themselves in skimpy fig leaves. God in turn clothed them even more modestly with animal skins.
 
piccolino said:
And there is no problem in desiring the attention of boys.
Obviously if you were those dresses you must have a beautiful body to show, otherwise it’s senseless.
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The attention you are getting from the boys by dressing provocatively is like saying…“here I am boys, come and get me…” vs. dressing like you had some sense makes the statement “here is a confident, smart, successful young woman…I wouldn’t mind taking her to meet my parents”

A sun dress may be appropriate for a picnic, but not church. I see nothing wrong with a short sleeve shirt and a nice pair of pants, neat jeans, or a skirt. You don’t need to dress to the nines.

It saddens me that young woman believe their body is what gets the man. You know, that does get “old” after awhile. If that all the woman has to offer…it is easy for the man to get bored and move on.

What do your clothes say about you? I am not suggesting that you cover up like a burkha. You can dress to express your personality by showing your intellect vs. your butt.
 
But wanting to be looked and admired is not immoral nor unchristian for a girl, I mean.
Underline the beauty of the body is not a pity, because I think that looking a gorgeous girl is for a man a way to forget his problems even for a moment and to be pleased in his senses and in his heart, that is not bad.
 
piccolino said:
But wanting to be looked and admired is not immoral nor unchristian for a girl, I mean.
Underline the beauty of the body is not a pity, because I think that looking a gorgeous girl is for a man a way to forget his problems even for a moment and to be pleased in his senses and in his heart, that is not bad.
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That does not mean that a woman has to wear clothes cut down to here, up to there, and are painted on. There is so much more to a woman than just her body. A woman can be very beautifully dressed, in a very stylish outfit and be extremely modest all at the same time. A woman dressed like that is most usually considered to be dressed in a very “smart” manner. A woman dressed in that manner can also be pleasing to look at.

If a man has problems the very best thing he can do is offer them up to the Lord.
 
Obviously I shouldn’t ever say “has to” because it is not a duty; but I think that if she wants, she can.
It’s clear that a woman is much more than her body, and I don’t think the contrary.However I think that the way of dressing is a personal choice. The only exception is for holy places, where any girl or woman should dress more modestly not to make guys or men think at her instead of God during the Celebration.
Obviously if a man has problems he can and we can say he must pray God to solve them but at least for me looking to a beautiful girl is a way to be pleased and to reduce the weight of sad thoughts.Bye
Sabda said:
That does not mean that a woman has to wear clothes cut down to here, up to there, and are painted on. There is so much more to a woman than just her body. A woman can be very beautifully dressed, in a very stylish outfit and be extremely modest all at the same time. A woman dressed like that is most usually considered to be dressed in a very “smart” manner. A woman dressed in that manner can also be pleasing to look at.

If a man has problems the very best thing he can do is offer them up to the Lord.
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Oh, no. Here we go again.
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I"m still waiting for the day that we see a thread about why men don’t follow the example of St Joseph and Jesus in their manner of dress-since women are constantly told to follow the example of Mary. I’m also waiting for the thread about the responsibility of men to practice chastity of the eyes.
 
cymrocksmyworld said:
I agree that girls should wear modest clothing at all times, but somtimes I am confused, because alot of guys I know say that, and then gape at models in magazines. A girl in a mini-skirt walks by and they stare and say “wow she’s hott!”
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A moment of weakness. Sad, but we all have some. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want to understate it. If they are the same who believe women should dress modestly, they probably appreciate the silhouette but not the dress. Ideally, women should not be referred to as “hot”.
Girls want attention from guys. Not really this kind of attention, but it is hard to remember that, and we wind up settling for the bad attention.
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Guys can have that too, actually. We too can be vain and we too are able to settle for “sexy” instead of “handsome”.
I wish instead of just saying that girls should wear modest clothes, when guys are around “real girls” they would try to complement them on their God-given inner qualities instead of staring open mouthed at air-brushed pictures of models, which makes girls feel like they will never be good enough.
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Airbrush will never be good enough. Every day I see women prettier than those on magazine covers. Today I was on subway, coming home from my father’s house. Saw people returning from a church event, women among them. Weren’t they pretty. And yet there was nothing “sexy” about them. Mind you, there was nothing wrong with them - and well, this is the point. They were very pretty, but looking at them didn’t cause you to sin. With some Catholic women, no matter how pretty, this risk is minimal. And yet you have no doubt you want to marry one of them. Some of them make you regret all the times you chased worldly girls. No kind of airbrush can compete with this and the very idea is laughable. 😉
 
piccolino said:
I don’t agree girls should wear modest clothing, because if they have a beautiful body they should show it to everybody as even it is an expression of the beauty of God.
Wearing miniskirts or tops or close-fitting trousers is a way to underline a beauty that helps anybody to be happier and to relax.
As somebody told, “Omnia munda mundis”: if a guy looks a girl and limits himself to admire her body he doesn’t commit any sin and it must he to control himself.Bye
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I will have to differ. What you describe is actually not an antithesis of modesty. If a young woman actually thought the way you describe, it would (most probably) not be immodest.

However, please note that sexuality is reserved for marriage and therefore behaviours or images which awaken passions should also be restricted. After all, beholding the beauty of a human body is not a mandate to lust after it. Similarly, should one know that such exposure would cause other to sin - and I mean “cause” as a “cause and result” relationship, not implying fault - one should avoid it. This is true equally of men as of women.

Now you obviously didn’t mean to include clothes which specifically vied for sexual attention. You were only talking about those which made it possible to notice a beautiful form. Therefore you left out a large category of clothes to which your “I disagree” doesn’t pertain in the light of what you say later…

As for “nothing wrong wanting to be admired” - careful with that. It can go wrong if there’s too much of it.
 
cymrocksmyworld said:
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 I wish instead of just saying that girls should wear modest clothes, when guys are around "real girls" they would try to complement them on their God-given inner qualities
What do you think?
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I can assure you that the “real girls” out there with God-given inner qualities are in much higher demand from “real” men than women who dress immodestly are, because women who actually have inner beauty seem to be so much more difficult to find in this day and age, and make men feel so blessed when we find one. Women with inner beauty make much better girlfriends/wives than women who rely strictly on sexual hypnosis to attract men.

So, stand firm in your convictions, because when the right man for you comes along, he will know that he has found someone worth keeping.

Realize, however, that “real” men are not the type of men who the media glamorizes. Rather, “real” men are the type that seek obedience to God, which includes treating women with love and respect, how we would want someone else to treat our sisters, or our future daughters.
 
We all should.

Young or old.
Girl or boy.
Man or woman.
Child or adult…

If we each dressed with respect for ourselves and others there would be no problem. The stores would sell what we want and eyes would not need to be averted in embarrassment.
 
KathleenElsie said:
If we each dressed with respect for ourselves and others there would be no problem. The stores would sell what we want and eyes would not need to be averted in embarrassment.
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The bolded part represents what I think so many women and men forget. When we feel the need to unneccessarily expose extra parts of ourselves (and I say unneccessarily expose, because last week I was guilty of showing some thigh because of the heat… Now that the discomfit of heat stroke has passed and I have lessened it in my mind, I regret doing so) we are often really just exposing our lack of respect for ourselves, which in turn reduces our own perception of our respectability, which is incredibly damaging to our self esteem.

I wish all young women got the lesson in personal dress that I have. My secular sister (I’m praying for her conversion, as well as for the conversion of everyone in my family) taught me this at the ripe old age of 17 when I took my first serious job.

Dressing classily and leaving everything to the imagination demands respect. Dressing with your femininity in mind is captivating but not distracting. Making sure that your level of dress matches your level of intelligence makes people stop and notice.

I wish that young women knew that they could be stylish and still modest. There is this idea that is pervaded out there that modest dress has to set you apart from everyone else. It doesn’t- trust me. It takes a little extra time shopping and sometimes a few extra layers. You don’t have to dress like you’re in an episode of Little House on the Prairie.
 
coda said:
Isnt it just not cool when you are in church trying to be as holy as you can, and some teenaged floozy wearing flip flops, spaghetti strap half top and teeny pink shorts with “HOTTIE” emblazened on her rear, struts up for holy communion?..no respect…
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Well at least she is **at **church.
 
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