Give me your best argument AGAINST becoming Catholic.

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cheese_sdc said:
Why would I do that? If you want to be Catholic, be a Catholic. If you don’t want to be Catholic, then don’t join.
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The question is: Why would you not become a Catholic? What are your arguments against it? Everyone understands that we are all free to make our own choices.
 
probleman said:
Because God lets us be hurt unjustly, far worse than the penalty due us by our own sins, and therefore doesn’t protect us from pain and therefore doesn’t care about us.
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I seem to remember Someone else who was hurt unjustly and He had no sin whatsoever. He gave his life for you. That is how much he cares. Do not blame God for the evil in the world. He loves you and came to save you.

I will pray for you, that your pain will ease.

God bless.

Steve
 
cheese_sdc said:
Why would I do that? If you want to be Catholic, be a Catholic. If you don’t want to be Catholic, then don’t join.
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I was under the impression this was to see if he could refute the them. Mine, for instance, I already knew how to refute. I just posted it as a common, albeit emotional, objection.
 
Let me preface this with that from the Lutheran standpoint there’s not much reason to jump ship from a church where the Gospel is preached and the Sacraments are administered.

So if you’re an Evangelical, then you should become Catholic, or better yet, Lutheran 🙂

That said, don’t move to the Catholic church if:
  1. Doing so would split the faith life of your family into fragments, such that some could lose their faith.
  2. Doing so would damage the particular church that your are in, such that some members could lose their faith.
  3. That if you’re a voice that cites our for the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic faith in your own communion, you should give pause before leaving, so that you may help others come to faith.
  4. You’re a pastor. A good shepherd doesn’t abandon their flock.
 
benjohnson said:
Let me preface this with that from the Lutheran standpoint there’s not much reason to jump ship from a church where the Gospel is preached and the Sacraments are administered.

So if you’re an Evangelical, then you should become Catholic, or better yet, Lutheran 🙂

That said, don’t move to the Catholic church if:
  1. Doing so would split the faith life of your family into fragments, such that some could lose their faith.
  2. Doing so would damage the particular church that your are in, such that some members could lose their faith.
  3. That if you’re a voice that cites our for the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic faith in your own communion, you should give pause before leaving, so that you may help others come to faith.
  4. You’re a pastor. A good shepherd doesn’t abandon their flock.
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These don’t take into account the Catholic Church’s own perspective on the matter. If someone is considering joining the Catholic Church, then chances are they already believe in the authority and legitimacy of the Catholic Church. So, this person would want to look at the prospect from the Catholic Church’s perspective, rather than from the perspective of a Lutheran or even the Lutheran church or their own church, which presumably they no longer believe has as much authority over relaying God’s will as the Catholic Church does.
 
Randy_Carson said:
Give me your best argument AGAINST becoming Catholic.

Thanks.
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Because of some of the responses on threads like this one, where Catholics jump in before a Non-Catholic gets the opportunity to express him/herself…

I mean, why would anyone even bother to post their argument at this point :confused:
 
RedFox0456 said:
I was under the impression this was to see if he could refute the them. Mine, for instance, I already knew how to refute. I just posted it as a common, albeit emotional, objection.
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Shhh. Don’t tell him that I knew that’s what he was doing. I’m just refusing to take the bait. I’ve been here long enough to know how it works. 😉

Here’s the template:

Step 1) Catholic asks seemingly innocuous question to non-Catholics
Step 2) Non Catholic responds
Steps 3-1,000,000) Every Catholic here tells Non-Catholic how he or she is wrong.

:p;)
 
cheese_sdc said:
Shhh. Don’t tell him that I knew that’s what he was doing. I’m just refusing to take the bait. I’ve been here long enough to know how it works. 😉

Here’s the template:

Step 1) Catholic asks seemingly innocuous question to non-Catholics
Step 2) Non Catholic responds
Steps 3-1,000,000) Every Catholic here tells Non-Catholic how he or she is wrong.

:p;)
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Don’t forget the obligatory pages of cut and paste quote mines. 😛
 
SteveVH said:
The question is: Why would you not become a Catholic? What are your arguments against it? Everyone understands that we are all free to make our own choices.
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In my experience free will is astoundingly rare.
 
rcwitness said:
Then who is controlling you?
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The same things that are controlling everybody else.

Past experience. Societal Obligations. Parental Influence. Education. Geography. Language. Past choices. Family of Origin.

Fear.

Shame.

Once I understood how much fear and shame drive decision making… Wow. The world becomes a different place.
 
I am a Protestant in RCIA this fall and my daughter is in RCIC. I haven’t posted here since the last time I was seriously considering RCIA, but didn’t go through with it that time. Now, a couple of years later, I am! But I still have questions/doubts. I suppose that is what RCIA is for- to wrestle with the issues alongside the teachers and other candidates. I will say that despite any hesitations, the Eucharist draws me. I really don’t have any other way to describe it. Does that sound odd?

I am also drawn to the Miraculous Medal/Mary. I have my deceased Grandmother’s medal and wonder if it is ok for a non Catholic to wear it?

Thank you for any opinions,
Stephanie
 
cheese_sdc said:
The same things that are controlling everybody else.

Past experience. Societal Obligations. Parental Influence. Education. Geography. Language. Past choices. Family of Origin.

Fear.

Shame.

Once I understood how much fear and shame drive decision making… Wow. The world becomes a different place.
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Hey bro, you didn’t mention LOVE at all.

1 John 4:18 (RSVCE)

18 There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and he who fears is not perfected in love.
 
rcwitness said:
Hey bro, you didn’t mention LOVE at all. 1 John 4:18 (RSVCE)

18 There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and he who fears is not perfected in love.
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Love is much more rare than fear and shame.
 
rabby(name removed by moderator) said:
I am a Protestant in RCIA this fall and my daughter is in RCIC. I haven’t posted here since the last time I was seriously considering RCIA, but didn’t go through with it that time. Now, a couple of years later, I am! But I still have questions/doubts. I suppose that is what RCIA is for- to wrestle with the issues alongside the teachers and other candidates. I will say that despite any hesitations, the Eucharist draws me. I really don’t have any other way to describe it. Does that sound odd?

I am also drawn to the Miraculous Medal/Mary. I have my deceased Grandmother’s medal and wonder if it is ok for a non Catholic to wear it?

Thank you for any opinions,
Stephanie
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Good to hear 👍

Who is Catholic but the person who is not opposed to His Eucharist? You are Catholic already (by desire) and are practicing by seeking Baptism/Confirmation in order to receive in humility and sound faith.

Others who are even in non-Cat communities who are not opposed to His Eucharist and His Charity are in a similar Catholic communion.
 
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