Giving out communion at mass

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Hello everyone,
Last week I was asked to give out Holy Communion at mass.I was so stunned at being asked that I said NO! My answer was not appreciated.I thought that one needed to have some sort of training, before giving out communion. I thought, perhaps,that only Eucharistic ministers could do that. I asked our Polish, visiting priest, if he thought my reaction was exaggerated. He said NO! In my parish, here in France, if you teach catechism you will be asked to give out communion at mass!
If you visit the sick you will be asked to give out communion at mass! In my mother’s parish in Wales, she says that people who give out communion at mass, go on a course once a year. I feel one should be prepared. Does anyone know the Church’s opinion on this?
Жanna
 
Hello everyone,
Last week I was asked to give out Holy Communion at mass.I was so stunned at being asked that I said NO! My answer was not appreciated.I thought that one needed to have some sort of training, before giving out communion. I thought, perhaps,that only Eucharistic ministers could do that. I asked our Polish, visiting priest, if he thought my reaction was exaggerated. He said NO! In my parish, here in France, if you teach catechism you will be asked to give out communion at mass!
If you visit the sick you will be asked to give out communion at mass! In my mother’s parish in Wales, she says that people who give out communion at mass, go on a course once a year. I feel one should be prepared. Does anyone know the Church’s opinion on this?
Жanna
The Church does allow it! It is being called to act as an Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion (EMHC). You can be chosen for a single mass or you can be asked to be available for a year. It depends on the Bishop and the pastor.
If you are an orthodox Catholic and in good standing, then 90% of the preparation is done. There are not a lot of technical things that you need to know. I think that there are three fundamental keywords to this ministry that everybody needs to know: reverence, reverence, and finally reverence.

BTW your reaction was not exaggerated! You have the right to say no. A lot of people do not feel comfortable with this ministry. It is a privilege and it is not based on us being worthy; it is NOT a right.
 
The Church does allow it! It is being called to act as an Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion (EMHC). You can be chosen for a single mass or you can be asked to be available for a year. It depends on the Bishop and the pastor.
If you are an orthodox Catholic and in good standing, then 90% of the preparation is done. There are not a lot of technical things that you need to know. I think that there are three fundamental keywords to this ministry that everybody needs to know: reverence, reverence, and finally reverence.

BTW your reaction was not exaggerated! You have the right to say no. A lot of people do not feel comfortable with this ministry. It is a privilege and it is not based on us being worthy; it is NOT a right.
I too feel much the same way about all this.
And I immensely appreciate you stating the three fundamental keyword reminders if one is HUMBLY called to serve in this service. REVERENCE ! I don’t believe you can teach REVERENCE. It’s an indescribable inward grace given to God fearing souls who are given the unbelievable heart felt responsibility to even be allowed to touch a Sacred Host of Christ. Regrettably; not wanting to sound insensitive or indifferent to how other people might think. And I have to go back before Vatican II. Why ? Because I believe (and I’m not alone in this) that the use of Extra Ordinary Ministers whose hands are not Consecrated by God is a shameful ministry devised by a lackluster clergy in union with unworthy individuals amongst the laity who have absolutely NO RIGHT or AUTHORITY to touch the Sacred Body and Blood of Jesus Christ. No lay person has the right to lay their hands on Sacred Chalices or Ciborium.
The real truth about this is that Extra Ordinary Lay Ministers came about in what I call New Age Catholicism all for sake of expediency in how Holy Communion is rushed like a sacrificial meal that has been slaughtered with very little reverence if any in vast number of Catholic Churches. I remember when I was a Alter boy and Holy Communion was given on the tongue ONLY and Alter boys used Patens under the chin of the Faithful.
Today we have watered down representations of a Mass that was once Glorious, Sacred, Holy, and with great Reverence.
NOBODY can self righteously tell me that the Church has evolved since Vatican II. When Moses set up the Tent that housed the Ark of the Covenant; nobody was allowed to enter except the priest’s. The Old Testament speaks of one instant whereby a lay person entered into the Holy Tent and disintegrated in the holy presence of the Ark of the Covenant. Today we have the NEW ARK OF THE COVENANT sitting on our Church Alters and Tabernacles. What has ever become of the immense Respect, Humility, Awe, and Reverence in many of today’s Catholic Churches ? I have seen enough disgusting blasphemies and liturgical abuses to want to vomit and cry my eyes out.
What has happened to the immense sense of REVERENCE in our Churches ?
 
Where should it be then?
Kanna; there is nothing wrong with your post being right where it’s at.
Perhaps the other gentlemen was referring to this post being placed in the Liturgy & Sacraments Forum.

However; that being said, in 2003 the Catholic Insight magazine printed an excellent article on the liturgical abuses concerning the way Eucharistic Ministers were supposed to be used and subsequently in 2009 the clergy is still continuing their stubborn SINFUL liturgical abuses.

Rome - In September 2002, Pope John Paul II addressed the bishops of Brazil on the “serious abuses” stemming from the erroneous trend to “clericalize the laity.” Included in a list of examples of these abuses was distribution of Communion by the laity. While other items in the list such as homilies given by lay people and indiscriminate and common recitation of the Eucharistic prayer did not seem out of order for the Pope to take issue with, the practice of lay people distributing Communion has become so commonplace that its presence as an abuse seems startling.

Over the last several years Rome has repeatedly stressed that the role of laity in distributing Communion is to be an exception to the rule that bishops, priests, and deacons are the ordinary ministers.

In fact, Immensae Caritatis, the original 1973 document from the Vatican laying out the permission for such extraordinary ministers, spelled out that they should only be used “because of a great crowd of people or some disability of the celebrant.”

That document, and subsequent ones, also note that extraordinary ministers of the Eucharist are not to be selected indiscriminately but according to a specified order. The normal extraordinary minister of the Eucharist is an installed acolyte, a ministry only open to men. After acolyte the order is “major seminarian, man religious, woman religious, catechist, one of the faithful man or woman.”

The Churches generosity in allowing an exception for extraordinary circumstances has been abused and the Magisterium is forced, like a good mother, to correct her ((“Errant Children”)). Thus in 1980 Pope John Paul II ordered another document covering the issue to be promulgated.

The 1980 document Inestimabile Donum reiterated the instruction that “the faithful, whether religious or lay, who are authorized as extraordinary ministers of the Eucharist can distribute Communion only when there is no priest, deacon, or acolyte; when the priest is impeded by illness or advanced age; or when the number of the faithful going to Communion is so large as to make the celebration of Mass excessively long.”

It also said: “A Reprehensible attitude is shown by those priests who, though present at the celebration, refrain from distributing Communion and leave this task to the laity.”

But the abuses continued. Priests, not bishops, were regularly selecting various laity to assist in distribution of Holy Communion without any discernible order. Lay people were and are being used at nearly every Mass as extraordinary ministers. Some ministers were being treated by some priests like concelebrants, by receiving Holy Communion apart from the rest of the faithful.

In 1997, Rome intervened once more. Pope John Paul promulgated “The collaboration of the non-ordained faithful in the Sacred Ministry of Priest.” The document spells out that even bishops are to appoint extraordinary ministers only in cases of “true necessity.” It says, “A non-ordained member of the faithful, in cases of true necessity, may be deputed by the diocesan bishop.” With regard to the priest, the document notes, “In exceptional cases or in unforeseen circumstances, the priest presiding at the liturgy may authorize such” but only on a temporary basis.

The 1997 document goes beyond merely stressing that extraordinary ministers should be reserved to extraordinary circumstances. It spells out that “certain practices are to be avoided and eliminated.” Thus, "the habitual use of extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion at Mass is to be avoided and eliminated. Why? Because it arbitrarily extends the concept of Ôa great number of the faithful.Õ

One argument which has duped many into believing that extraordinary ministers of the Eucharist are commonly permitted is the idea that, “Extraordinary” refers to the fact that lay distributors of Holy Communion are not ordained ministers. But the application of the term “extraordinary” refers to the function itself, a function which is “supplementary and extraordinary.”

The 1997 document also states that the practice of “extraordinary ministers receiving Holy Communion apart from the other faithful as though con-celebrants” should be eliminated.

The new Latin Roman Missal released in May 2002 also addresses some of the abuses associated with extraordinary ministers of the Eucharist. The Missal, the English translation of which is underway, notes that extraordinary ministers are not to assist in the transfer of consecrated hosts and the Precious Blood to sacred vessels, nor are they to retrieve the Blessed Sacrament from the tabernacle and return the remaining consecrated hosts to the tabernacle.

During Benediction, the bishop, priest, deacon, and even the Holy Father himself, uses the humeral veil to cover his hands while holding the monstrance containing Our Lord. Why is one not to touch the monstrance? Is it the gold that matters, or the Sacred Host which the monstrance contains? Symbolic gestures matter. If every Tom, ****, and Henrietta is allowed to distribute Holy Communion without Holy Orders, the significance of the One whom we receive becomes obscured.

It would not be surprising if the Church received even further instruction on the subject. On Holy Thursday in 2003, the Holy Father released an encyclical on the Holy Eucharist. Within the encyclical he promised a decree on the liturgical norms regarding the Blessed Sacrament set to be released shortly.
 
Can you please post this topic in the Liturgy and Sacraments forum. EMHC as well as altar girls disturbs me allot. As a traditional Catholic I only feel priests or deacons should be giving out Holy Communion.
 
Can you please post this topic in the Liturgy and Sacraments forum. EMHC as well as altar girls disturbs me allot. As a traditional Catholic I only feel priests or deacons should be giving out Holy Communion.
Just because you do not like the topic it should be out of this forum? :confused:

I consider myself a orthodox Catholic and I firmly accept the fact that EMHC are allowed in the OF of the Mass. However, how things are done (with reverence) is a part of this forum. The OP had a concern about form/reverence and one thing that is pushed through this forum is the need of some forms/behaviors to ensure reverence to God in everything we do.
 
Thank you Centurionguard for your detailed answer
I shall follow up the references:-)
I now feel reassured about the attitude I had 🙂 .
 
Can you please post this topic in the Liturgy and Sacraments forum. EMHC as well as altar girls disturbs me allot. As a traditional Catholic I only feel priests or deacons should be giving out Holy Communion.
i agree. i was taught that extraordinary ministers were to be only used in case of an emergency, and only if another priest bishop or deacon could not do it. exp: priest is handicapped in some form and can not distribute it himself and wine was only to be served for very special occasions. not every mass.
but lately if feels like the rules change way too often and with a stripping of instead of a building on.
 
This question has nothing to do with ‘traditional’ Catholicism, no offense, and by that I mean the following: this is the ‘traditional’ forum, largely for ‘traditional’ Catholics, who largely attend the traditional Mass, where there aren’t any EMHCs. That’s all.

Nevertheless, I’m glad centurionguard saw your question and was able to answer so thoroughly. I do feel the need, however, to mention that it has always been a sacrilege for unconsecrated hands to touch consecrated hosts. Even priests don’t usually touch it, except with their thumbs and index finger, and only after having washed them during the Mass during which time they don’t touch anything else with their ‘purified’ thumbs and index fingers. Aah, the traditions of HMC. Glorious.
 
This question has nothing to do with ‘traditional’ Catholicism, no offense, and by that I mean the following: this is the ‘traditional’ forum, largely for ‘traditional’ Catholics, who largely attend the traditional Mass, where there aren’t any EMHCs. That’s all.

Nevertheless, I’m glad centurionguard saw your question and was able to answer so thoroughly. I do feel the need, however, to mention that it has always been a sacrilege for unconsecrated hands to touch consecrated hosts. Even priests don’t usually touch it, except with their thumbs and index finger, and only after having washed them during the Mass during which time they don’t touch anything else with their ‘purified’ thumbs and index fingers. Aah, the traditions of HMC. Glorious.
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I do feel the need, however, to mention that it has always been a sacrilege for unconsecrated hands to touch consecrated hosts. Even priests don’t usually touch it, except with their thumbs and index finger, and only after having washed them during the Mass during which time they don’t touch anything else with their ‘purified’ thumbs and index fingers. Aah, the traditions of HMC. Glorious.
And that has been since Trent.

Is it The Lord we are receiving or the protestant “In Rembererance” of Him? I thought that was the difference between Catholic and Protestant.

I often hear "Oh it’s so nice to have “The Lord” in my hands before i drop bits of Him on the floor or put Him in my pocket for later.
 
I often hear "Oh it’s so nice to have “The Lord” in my hands before i drop bits of Him on the floor or put Him in my pocket for later.
Oh yes? I find that difficult to believe. You say ‘I often hear’.
How often, exactly?
 
Hello everyone,
Last week I was asked to give out Holy Communion at mass.I was so stunned at being asked that I said NO! My answer was not appreciated.I thought that one needed to have some sort of training, before giving out communion. I thought, perhaps,that only Eucharistic ministers could do that. I asked our Polish, visiting priest, if he thought my reaction was exaggerated. He said NO! In my parish, here in France, if you teach catechism you will be asked to give out communion at mass!
If you visit the sick you will be asked to give out communion at mass! In my mother’s parish in Wales, she says that people who give out communion at mass, go on a course once a year. I feel one should be prepared. Does anyone know the Church’s opinion on this?
Жanna
People should be properly trained before distributing communion at Mass. Handling the Eucharist is not something to be taken lightly.
 
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