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ThomasB36
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We are using our brains. We post this information and discuss it further. I am not pointing fingers but the attacks are unneccesary.
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That_one_guy
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Whether it is global warming or an ice age, whether it is man made or natural. It IS occurring.
We should take care of where we live. If you’re a Christian, then you already know that we are called to be stewards of Gods creation. And even if you’re not, you probably already realize that things last longer and look nicer if you take care of them. How hard can it be to pick up after yourself?
environmentalleader.com/2007/07/16/vatican-to-go-carbon-neutral-wants-to-measure-footprints-of-individual-churches/
“The Holy See’s increasingly creative environmental leadership is both insightful and profound,” said Planktos CEO and KlimaFa managing director, Russ George. “Not only is the Vatican steadily reducing its carbon footprint with energy efficiency and solar power, its choice of new mixed growth forests to offset the balance of its emissions shows a deep commitment to planetary stewardship as well. It eloquently makes the point that ecorestoration is a fitting climate change solution for a culture of life.”
We should take care of where we live. If you’re a Christian, then you already know that we are called to be stewards of Gods creation. And even if you’re not, you probably already realize that things last longer and look nicer if you take care of them. How hard can it be to pick up after yourself?
environmentalleader.com/2007/07/16/vatican-to-go-carbon-neutral-wants-to-measure-footprints-of-individual-churches/
“The Holy See’s increasingly creative environmental leadership is both insightful and profound,” said Planktos CEO and KlimaFa managing director, Russ George. “Not only is the Vatican steadily reducing its carbon footprint with energy efficiency and solar power, its choice of new mixed growth forests to offset the balance of its emissions shows a deep commitment to planetary stewardship as well. It eloquently makes the point that ecorestoration is a fitting climate change solution for a culture of life.”
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Calliso
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Woohoo I get to post more link(s)! Here is one from NOAA about climate prediction research.noaa.gov/climate/t_prediction.html And there is more on the sidebar too. And this is an example of a scientist trying to explain the concept of predicting weather versus predicting climate in a simplified way like one was at a party and didn;t have access to models or anything realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006/08/short-and-simple-arguments-for-why-climate-can-be-predicted/
And another site on weather and climate go to the sidebar for more info! eo.ucar.edu/basics/index.html
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Calliso
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Here is a climate blog’s page on some of the current and potential affects of climate change. global-warming.accuweather.com/effects_of_global_warming/
But it;s not going to be the same everywhere in the world of course. But this is just kinda a response to the effect on the enviroment posts.
But it;s not going to be the same everywhere in the world of course. But this is just kinda a response to the effect on the enviroment posts.
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That_one_guy
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gee. maybe this should be the link posting thread
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Calliso
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Sorry!gee. maybe this should be the link posting thread
I can;t help myself sometimes!..
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ThomasB36
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The links that you post provide interesting information.Sorry!
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ChristIsLord
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has anyone given thought to the possibility that since 99.9% of all animals ever to walk the earth are currently extinct our efforts to thwart the extinction of any species is messing up the natural order of things. An order that has been going on for hundreds of millions of years?
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Valke2
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No. We are concerned with mass extinctions caused by us. Not normal extinctions as they traditionally occur in nature.
Just because a meteor probably wiped out 90% of life on this planet one time doesn’t mean it is desireable for us to imitate the results of that event.
Just because a meteor probably wiped out 90% of life on this planet one time doesn’t mean it is desireable for us to imitate the results of that event.
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Calliso
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Yeah it;s one thing when a species goes extinct when natural climate changes change their habitat. Or a disease wipes out most of the population and there isn;t enough to recover or something like that. It is quite another when humans destory an animals habitat or hunt so many of the species that it goes extinct. Other ways we cause problems are of course pollution and even bringing different species into lands they are not originally from. In fact a lot of scientists believe we are the cause of a current mass extinction theithacajournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080227/LIFESTYLE08/802270305/1090 ,
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ChristIsLord
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humans are animals and that’s exactly how every animal typically goes extinct, something else comes alone and threatens its survival, eats all of them, or takes away its natural habitat.
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mesurman
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Here we go again.
It is the coldest winter in years where I live. 7 degrees below zero this morning. Two weeks ago it was 15 degrees below zero. Global Warming is a myth! Not true. None of the scientists or tv personalities call it global warming anymore, now it is called “Climate Change”. Our climate has been changing for the last oh…millions of years or so. Get real and get a life.
It is the coldest winter in years where I live. 7 degrees below zero this morning. Two weeks ago it was 15 degrees below zero. Global Warming is a myth! Not true. None of the scientists or tv personalities call it global warming anymore, now it is called “Climate Change”. Our climate has been changing for the last oh…millions of years or so. Get real and get a life.
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Calliso
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Weather or even short term cold trends does not equal global warming isn;t true. Climate is not the same as weather. And yes it is climate change…just because they call it climate change doesn;t mean they suddenly are doubting global warming. I actually found a good explanation of this somewhere but for some reason I can;t find it again maybe later.
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That_one_guy
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Regardless of how any body “feels” about it. The wave of the future is based upon this very thing. I see a lot of new job opportunities and interesting new fields of study arising out of all this.
Why not make the best of it? What’s it gonna hurt?
The Vatican is hip to it!
inhabitat.com/2008/12/08/vatican-solar-array-goes-live/
Why not make the best of it? What’s it gonna hurt?
The Vatican is hip to it!
inhabitat.com/2008/12/08/vatican-solar-array-goes-live/
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mesurman
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I fully understand the difference between the two terms and that short term differences do not reflect a trend in either direction. The pros stopped calling it Global Warming because the “trend” has been a decrease in temperatures for the last ten years. As I have said many times before on this site… ten-twenty years is a blip in Geologic History, for us mere mortals to project global catastrophe based on what has occured in the last thirty years is absurd. Does that mean that we should abuse the earth? No! We should be stewards of what God has given us. We should use our resources wisely in an environmentally sound manner. The pendulum has swung too far in the opposite direction and has to come back towards the middle. I would like to see the explanation that you refer to. Until then.
Yours in Christ from the frozen northeast.
Your making my argument so easy.
They explain the obvious, that climate can be predicted based on knowledge of what outside factors are doing, then elaborate on what these factors are.
And they list a finite set of factors.
Now I’m no genius, but it would seem to me that the factors involved in predicting climate for a range of 50 years would be near endless.
Perhaps they are still naive enough to believe that they can accurately predict an outcome without knowing all of the factors involved.
While you can attempt to stave off the argument concerning the rain in the forecast (the rain finally came today)…you cannot escape the analogy.
The climate predictions are not reliable for the same reason the weather forecast is not reliable…the scientists do not fully understand the factors involved in the outcome.
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ChristIsLord
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i won’t say climate change or “global warming” is a myth, however i do take issue with the al gores of the world scaring people with what i would call flat out lies. not to mention his enormous hypocrisy as he spends $10,000 a month for electricity for his mansion. or morons like leonardo dicrapio who fly around in a private jet and harp on me about my “carbon footprint” that private jet will use more gas in one flight to europe than i will in probably a lifetime. so it’s not like cynics like me don’t like the earth, i’m a hunter, outdoorsman, i love the outdoors. it’s just hearing it from hypocrites, left wing whiners, and hippies leaves a bad taste in my mouth…
if global warming is a myth, it’s a good one as it gets people motivated to get off of fossil fuels which keep us mired in the middle east. once off foreign oil the situation in the middle east will become as important to us as the situation in myanmar…
plus i think the push towards a “greener earth” will be a great job creator in the next generation, which is also a good thing.
if global warming is a myth, it’s a good one as it gets people motivated to get off of fossil fuels which keep us mired in the middle east. once off foreign oil the situation in the middle east will become as important to us as the situation in myanmar…
plus i think the push towards a “greener earth” will be a great job creator in the next generation, which is also a good thing.
I have, and I think it correct.
If we truly believe climate change to be coming, then we should be working to adapt to it, not working to stop it.
I won’t dispute that, I am sure it motivates some.
But I really never saw many hybrid vehicles on the road until gas went over $2.00 per gallon.
Global warming scaring people may have worked for some, but economic conditions seem to work for many more.
Besides, if the logic is really that the fear motivates people into a greener lifestyle, what are we all going to do when people realize the global warming hoax? Will the bottom drop out of the alternative fuel market?
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